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#635838
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Boston Marathon Explosion(s)
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Warbler said:

zombie84 said:

Teenage kids have now grown up that you can have an intelligent conversation with who have never known what it is like to experience a time when Al Queda was an aggressor.

that is 1000000000000% bullshit.

 

It's 100% fact, whether you like it or not. Kids aren't going to know about an embassy attack halfway around the world. The last time Al Queda struck the United States was 12 years ago.

Again, keep things in perspective. That was a long time ago and there have been hundreds of thousands of homicides of innocent people in the United States since then. If the homicide rate in the United States ever went down to 3000 people a year it would practically be considered world peace. It's the inability to move beyond the tragedy of one afternoon that has created a whole new set of problems that really don't need to exist.

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#635805
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Boston Marathon Explosion(s)
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Warbler, I said 9/11 was isolated when it came to American soil. It is. Even though foreign embassies have had attacks committed against them, as far as United States citizens living in the borders of the United States, 9/11 was a one-time deal. That's a fact. It happened once, over a decade ago. Teenage kids have now grown up that you can have an intelligent conversation with who have never known what it is like to experience a time when Al Queda was an aggressor. Get over 9/11. There are over 70,000 people killed in a mild genocide in Syria over the past year and a half that is the worst tragedy since Rwanda that requires your more immediate outrage and attention. If 9/11 fills you with rage, Boston makes you upset, then Syria should give you a full blown stroke. Unless you feel "they don't count" then all of this needs to be put into perspective. In the list of world tragedy's, 9/11 is a fart.

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#635598
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Video Game Thread
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Played through the first third of Injustice on the weekend.

Surprised to find the hype was true--the idea of a cinematic comic book game based around a Mortal Kombat 1 vs 1 mod sounded like a mess, but this game is really, really good. Good story, good presentation, very effective integration of cinematics and quick time events to change up the gameplay, and the combat is better and more entertaining than Mortal Kombat in a lot of ways, and transitions within the story surprisingly well. They also did a very good job at creating an adult DC storyline that is still very true to the comic roots--and also Aquaman is badass for the first time in history. The writing and acting and directing are all top notch, though once in a while the cut scene graphics look a bit weak in the facial features, and to be honest the plot is a bit hard to follow (I know, I know, I must be an idiot, but when you do parallel universe storylines you have to keep the audience in the loop about who is who and why things are happening, which I feel sometimes got muddied in the portion I played).

I still haven't played as Superman though, but in some ways I don't want to try the 1 on 1 modes until I've played through the storyline. Part of the fun is discovering what a character can do when you are given control of them, it adds to some of the drama/unexpectedness of it all.

This is well worth the money, for those interested in it. You don't have to be a fighting game fan to enjoy this as well.

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#635073
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Boston Marathon Explosion(s)
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Yes, well obviously. That's the biggest issue with any of this conspiracy theory bullshit. The conclusion precedes the evidence. Then either the evidence proves the premise despite a variety of more likely, provable theories, or the lack of evidence proves the premise because the provable theories are arbitrarily targeted as lies on the sole basis of not fitting with the premise. It's the opposite of rational, critical thinking and the reason why anyone who has brains in their skull writes off this kind of crap. Conspiracy theorists are the cheaters who try to force pieces of a child's puzzle together in ways that don't fit but still swear there is a legitimate picture in the random way they have sorted it together.

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#635059
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All Things Star Trek
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Darth_Ender, are you aware that there is a Phase II fan film series that is actually quite well funded and has had some of the original cast members on it? They have used some of the original scripts and designs. It began as a series called New Voyages I think, but they changed it to a re-creation of Phase II halfway into it.

 

http://www.startreknewvoyages.com/

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#634989
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Boston Marathon Explosion(s)
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Why would a terrorist's end goal be to have safer gun regulation and not allowing us to bring fluids on airplanes? That's a pretty lame terrorist. I think their ambitions are a bit loftier than causing mild but necessary inconveniences for us a few times a year.

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#634476
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Classic LOL Moments in OT.com History
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RE: Boston Marathon Explosion(s)
               ^?!?!?!?! HALF THE POPULATION IS BEING SYSTEMATICALLY CONVINCED TO HAAATTTTEEE WHITE CHRISTIAN MALES IN A VICIOUS AND DISCRIMATORY WAY!!!   It's empowering the TOTALITARIAN left to destroy EVERYTHING that has made this nation great and good and decent!!! It is enabling our foreign enemies to acquire WPM to give to terrorists to destroy American cities!! You think that crap isn't ripping apart the families of white Christians and making their lives impossible?!?!?
I never post in this thread but if I was drinking something my screen would need some cleaning
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Boston-Marathon-Explosions/post/634475/#TopicPost634475
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#634473
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Boston Marathon Explosion(s)
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I think you are assuming too much there, but again: has that ever impacted a Tea Partier's life in a meaningful way, beyond the fair game of political criticism? Has anyone been arrested at a crime scene on the basis of being a member? Of course not. It's insulting to the victims of racial profiling to even attempt to compare the two.

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#634472
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All Things Star Trek
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I love TOS, though when I was a kid I found it boring. The TOS movies were what made me a fan, and seeing STVI in the theater as a little boy is one of the best memories I have in a movie theater and made me fall in love with the films. Personally I like all the TOS movies--the only ST VHS I ever bought commercially was STV, so what does that tell you. I used to record them off TV--I still have those tapes--and watch them over and over, especially Wrath of Kahn, although today I feel STVI is the best of them by a little bit. TMP is pretty much a mess, but there is a good film buried in the VFX demo reels and really does feel like a classic Trek episode writ large, aside from the failed attempts to do 2001. The Directors Cut is a big improvement, but I have to admit I have never watched it without hitting the fast forward button. I rented it from Blockbuster around 1993 or so, despite both my parents warning that it lousy but it was the only one I hadn't seen, and I never got more than 45 minutes into it.

TNG was on TV at the time and so I followed it and loved it. I felt and still feel the early episodes sucked and that it got better as it went on. It was the last time a ST show was mainstream, as a kid many of my friends liked it, but I still don't know anyone who followed any of the subsequent series when they were airing. I still have my VHS recording of "All Good Things" that I taped off TV when it premiered, with a 1-hour behind the scenes special that aired immediately before. Was a sad day. Somehow never caught Generations until years later, loved First Contact and was thoroughly disappointed with Insurrection, so much that I'm one of the few people who thought Nemesis was a return to form (I haven't seen it since the theater mind you).

I gave DS9 many chances, but it bored me to tears with a few exceptions. I thought it was always "the bad series", and enjoyed the few episodes of Voyager that I saw much more, but when I got on the internet I was surprised to learn DS9 had a huge cult following as an underrated gem. I still haven't gotten into it, mostly because I haven't re-watched it since it was on. I have a feeling it bored me because I was still fairly young when it aired, even though TNG could be a bit cerebral; somehow it always held my attention, with maybe the first two seasons being the exception. After DS9 disappointed me and Voyager seemed "alright" I didn't give Enterprise much attention, though I watched an episode or two. But I was more interested in the upcoming Star Wars films to give much attention to Trek by then.

I absolutely loved ST09 when I first saw it, though I haven't really re-watched it much and to be fair I never followed any of the hype, I mainly saw it because my mom is a huge TOS fan (she got me into ST in the first place), and she loved it as much as I did. It's not as good as most of the TOS movies, but what is? I never, ever understood how people thought it betrayed the spirit of Trek. It's as much classic Trek as any of the TOS movies, in my opinion. People forget that TOS was a mainstream, general audience show that featured comedic episodes and action episodes and had a lot of sex and kung fu in it, it's not nearly as serious or cerebral as TNG and the way people "remember" TOS. Wasn't perfect, but I thought it was very well done. I saw the opening scene of Into Darkness with The Hobbit and all 15 people I was with wanted it to keep going, it was utterly fantastic.

That's the abbreviated history of my minor Star Trek obsession. I'm glad the whole SW vs ST thing is largely gone, and I'm also greatful that ST09 made the series mainstream and cool again. If you liked Star Wars at one point it was seen as pretty geeky, but admitting to liking anything Star Trek after age 13 was like a death warrant at one point.

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#634465
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Boston Marathon Explosion(s)
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Yes to some degree, based on their political stance. Not where they were born or what they look like. It's legitimate to criticism political stances, you can't possibly equate that with Islamophobia. I mean, even non-Muslims have to suffer that, a Sikh temple was destroyed after 9/11 because some jackasses didn't know what Sikhs were.

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#634462
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Boston Marathon Explosion(s)
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TheBoost said:

darth_ender said:

 I don't really care, but if it's such a crime to blame Islamic extremists, why is it okay to blame right wing white American Protestants with equally little corroborating evidence?

I think the differences in sensitivity levels is largely due to all the attacks and hate crimes done against white people after Newton, Aurora, Columbine, and Oklahoma City. 

 

This is a good question, but also a bit misleading because most recent terrorist attacks have been committed by "right wing American Protestants" so it's natural to speculate if this is on the same lines. Warbler had a legit point about speculating/investigating parties that could be possible suspects based on past actions and known activities, and the reason I took some issue with that is because 9/11 was a long time ago and, really, an isolated incident, which hasn't quite clicked with a lot of people but it's true. Middle eastern terrorists haven't blown anything up in the United States since 12 years ago, so they aren't very realistic suspects any more when there is a whole population body of crazy white people who have been doing stuff like this many times over the past few years--them and pretty much them alone. If it was 2002, for example, it would be reasonable to wonder if Al Queda was responsible for a terrorist attack. Doesn't really hold much water any more, although I will admit the public/spectacle nature of this crime is a bit more in keeping with such an organization rather than the "lone gunman" local extremists that have been in the news a lot recently.

Having said that it would be wrong of course to start arresting card-carrying Republicans as suspects--which is pretty much what happened to that Saudi fellow, who's only crime was being middle eastern in public. The official reason is "acting suspicious" of course, but I can read between the lines on that one, and I'm not sure what that even entails since I don't think they have officially elaborated on it (you mean he looked nervous and worried like he just survived a public bombing?). When being Republican at a major crime gets you in a police car this point will have more merit.

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#634279
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Boston Marathon Explosion(s)
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I guess that depends on how you frame the argument, but I feel that is bending a bit to placate a theory that comes from someone who is abritrarily paranoid about anything. I'm sure even Alex Jones is correct .05% of the time, in that "see what sticks" sense. Mel Gibson made an entire movie based on that.

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#634265
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Boston Marathon Explosion(s)
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TheBoost said:

Akwat Kbrana said:

zombie84 said:

Yup.

And after all the homebrew terrorist attacks over the last 12 months, I would say it's bordering on racist to automatically assume this is related to any Muslim organization.

Islam is a religion, not a race.

True, but in American discourse, Islam is intrisniscally tied up with Arab relations. 

When we blame Muslims, no one is thinking of Indonesia or Mauritania. 

Technically speaking, there isn't even such a thing as race. It's a 19th century fantasy, basically. Most people don't even know that but I think everyone knows what I meant.

Personally, my point is that there really isn't any reason to begin with the assumption that Al Queda or another Muslim terrorist organization has anything to do with it. It's not an unreasonable assumption of course--it's not like someone is saying the Nazi's are responsible for it, which would be legitimately silly--but frankly I'm tiring of Islamophobia, and automatically pointing the finger at "middle eastern terrorists" comes across that way Warbler, so no offense personally. Middle eastern terrorists have almost never harmed Americans on American soil compared to fellow Americans doing terrible things like shooting up schools and military bases, so I don't know why people continue to automatically assume it's the handiwork of people from the middle east when there is no evidence to suggest as much and documented history that would more likely lead one to believe it's a fellow citizen. Every time something bad happens people blame "terrorists", which they really mean middle easterners since that is who they are picturing when they say that word, but almost every single time that turns out to not be the case.

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#634143
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Boston Marathon Explosion(s)
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Warbler said:

zombie84 said:

SilverWook said:

nightstalkerpoet said:

I'm only in my early 20s... has the past year actually been way more destructive with all these evil acts happening, or is it just the fact that I'm starting to tune into the news more? Dark Knight Massacre, Newtown Massacre, Boston Marathon Massacre, not to mention the stream of shootings here in Seattle lately...

Prayers for everyone who was there, and their families.

Bad things have happened throughout history. I can recall some pretty awful and tragic events in the 80's and 90's. We simply learn about them much faster these days, and there are more cameras in more places than ever before. There has also been the spectre of copycats in the wake of such events.

Hopefully, some of those cameras caught an image of the bastards who did this.

Yup.

And after all the homebrew terrorist attacks over the last 12 months, I would say it's bordering on racist to automatically assume this is related to any Muslim organization.

It may well be the case, but the most destructive acts of terrorism in the last few years in the USA have been perpetrated by good old fashioned white American Christians, so let's not get ahead of ourselves.

I don't really consider Al Qaeda a Muslim organization,  I consider it a terrorist organization.   And I didn't assume anything, I guessed.   Considering 911, all the other attacks that Al Qaeda has pulled off and the fact that they constantly threaten America, it is not racist at all to suspect them.     Of course it doesn't have to be Al Qaeda,it could just be some home grown nut or a nut from some other country/religious believe.    A full investigation needs to be done in order to figure out who did this.

adywan said:

Warbler said:

I just saw on CNN there was a third explosion at JFK library.   

If I had one guess, I'd guess Al Qaeda did this. 

yeh, because it has to be a Muslim terrorist doesn't it. It couldn't possibly be the act of an American Christian now, could it?

**sigh**

of course it doesn't have to a Muslim terrorist.   I was making a guess, not a conclusion.   btw, why does it have to be an American Christian?  It could be an America Jew or an American atheist or an American of some other religion.   Or it could be someone from England or France or N. Korea.   Who the heck knows.

 

Because there is effectively no one who bombs people in the United States in the name of French Judasim...That has actually never happened. It's wrong to make assumptions, but it is also stupid to ignore historical trends. White American gun-owners should be afraid of other white American gun-owners. You are more likely to be shot by the paranoid guy who has been insanely given a gun for no reason than you are by the immigrant down the street working two jobs trying to raise his kids. History has shown this to be a fact.

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#634136
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Youtube's new "tape mode" button
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SilverWook said:

Videotape never looked this bad unless the tape was in really bad shape, or the copy protection signal was excessive. This is what someone born after 1990 thinks crappy analog video looks like. ;)

+1 for speaking the truth.

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#634129
Topic
Youtube's new "tape mode" button
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First I've heard of it.

My question is why? Do people really need this? Was this something people were really demanding? Youtube upgraded to 16x9, then to HD, then they go to...1980s video scrambling? Dumb seems like an understatement.

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#634128
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Last movie seen
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SilverWook said:

zombie84 said:

The best part in that movie is when Wilfred Brimley says "fuck" under his breath. I guess George was asleep in the editing room. Maybe he made the mistake of watching the movie.

Wookieepedia claims this was debunked.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Noa_Briqualon

Then again, it sure sounds like someone yells "Die F*cker!" in ROTJ as the super star destroyer crashes into the Death Star...

That's also not nearly as weird as the Ewoks having an english conversation about C3P0. The "die, ya fuckers" is a bit interpretive, but the english Ewoks was a genuine easter egg!

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#634125
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Last movie seen
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Wookiepedia can write what it wants, but my ears hear what they hear. He drops the F-bomb in a moment of unscripted frustration that made it past the editing censors. The subtitles say "aw come on" because that is the script but he clearly says nothing at all that sounds like "aw come on." In fact, he only grunts one syllable. And it sounds a lot like "fuck."

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#634121
Topic
Boston Marathon Explosion(s)
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SilverWook said:

nightstalkerpoet said:

I'm only in my early 20s... has the past year actually been way more destructive with all these evil acts happening, or is it just the fact that I'm starting to tune into the news more? Dark Knight Massacre, Newtown Massacre, Boston Marathon Massacre, not to mention the stream of shootings here in Seattle lately...

Prayers for everyone who was there, and their families.

Bad things have happened throughout history. I can recall some pretty awful and tragic events in the 80's and 90's. We simply learn about them much faster these days, and there are more cameras in more places than ever before. There has also been the spectre of copycats in the wake of such events.

Hopefully, some of those cameras caught an image of the bastards who did this.

Yup.

And after all the homebrew terrorist attacks over the last 12 months, I would say it's bordering on racist to automatically assume this is related to any Muslim organization. It may well be the case, but the most destructive acts of terrorism in the last few years in the USA have been perpetrated by good old fashioned white American Christians, so let's not get ahead of ourselves.

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#634111
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Last movie seen
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The best part in that movie is when Wilfred Brimley says "fuck" under his breath. I guess George was asleep in the editing room. Maybe he made the mistake of watching the movie.

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