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oojason said:

Tomo, I hope you don’t mind, mate - I’ve edited the thread title just a little to give a bit more of a heads-up as to there being spoilers inside this thread.

 

Good luck with it - I’ve just got back from seeing it for the first time - and have a feeling there may be some varied and differing takes / approaches to fan edits of The Last Jedi…

(I did enjoy TLJ - a lot, though I think this film may require a few viewings to take everything in)

 

I could see a few trims to humour, and a few scenes where the CGI didn’t quite work / sit right (though a 2nd viewing is very likely required).

As stated in the other TLJ Spoiler thread… it’ll be interesting to see what deleted scenes we’ll end up getting (and IF those deleted scenes will be in an initial TLJ home release…)

Looks like I will be busy with Time Code removal requests lol

THE FORCE HAS AWAKENED ME!!!

Possessed said:

I’m aware that pcm is lossless but 5.1 pcm is huge overkill. 640 kbps ac3 is enough for a movie I think. Music is the only time lossless matters to me.

Audio is Audio my friend. My theater speaker setup is high end and believe me I can here the difference with double encoded Dolby Digital.

Possessed said:

Yes it will because DD is more compressed than DTS to begin with so since it will have to be compressed again for the end product it makes sense to use the less compressed audio as the starting point, no?

I still haven’t fully decided if I’m even going with full 5.1 anyway. I might stick with dolby surround to make things simpler. Also That way recompresses will be less damaging as each channel will have more bitrate afforded it, and it will still upmix properly.

Right but what I am trying to point out, you wont loose anything if you convert the DTS to 5.1 or 7.1 PCM. Then Master it to PCM. (Blu ray) Sure it will take up more space but at least your not loosing anything. (PCM) (WAV) is lossless.

Possessed said:

xxtelecine 7xx said:

Possessed said:

Well I’m having to start over again. I’ve been using womble to do the editing, but I’m going to have to leave it behind. I hate to do that because I love wombles extremely user friendly interface and I was able to make the seamless cuts I needed… Theoretically. The reason I’m giving up on it is because no matter what I do there is a very audible “pop” at cut points. It’s infuriating. Even if the fades and everything are set up to be seamless there’s still a big pop in the middle of the transition and while it doesn’t happen all the time when it does happen nothing I do will fix it. I hate it because I love wombles interface. So unless anybody knows a fix for that, I’m trying to get the hang of Adobe premiere. It’s a whole different world and I’m still trying to get the hang of it.

Yes but once you do, you will be a whole lot better off. I would also recommend you transcode all of your project footage to a non-lossey interm format. Will make you life a lot better. cc 2015 and 2017 support cineform . I highly recommend you start there. CC 2015 also supports DD multi channel audio support.

Well even womble supported 5.1 so I’m not worried about that. I will probably edit in 5.1 using six mono wavs sourced from the dts track, then export as 640 kbps DD ac3. (I think that would have less quality loss than using DD as a starting point.

not if you convert it to wav end output to PCM.

Possessed said:

Well I’m having to start over again. I’ve been using womble to do the editing, but I’m going to have to leave it behind. I hate to do that because I love wombles extremely user friendly interface and I was able to make the seamless cuts I needed… Theoretically. The reason I’m giving up on it is because no matter what I do there is a very audible “pop” at cut points. It’s infuriating. Even if the fades and everything are set up to be seamless there’s still a big pop in the middle of the transition and while it doesn’t happen all the time when it does happen nothing I do will fix it. I hate it because I love wombles interface. So unless anybody knows a fix for that, I’m trying to get the hang of Adobe premiere. It’s a whole different world and I’m still trying to get the hang of it.

Yes but once you do, you will be a whole lot better off. I would also recommend you transcode all of your project footage to a non-lossey interm format. Will make you life a lot better. cc 2015 and 2017 support cineform . I highly recommend you start there. CC 2015 also supports DD multi channel audio support.

Update:

–All of the Vader shots have added chest plate lights, and his mask eyes have been changed to match my IV 1.4 beta that is floating out there.

–Per SuperSecretMuffin request, I mixed in my death star firing shots from IV 1.4, flipped it and color corrected it to match the color tone of RO. I also reincorporated the original actors who were at the helm of the firing station mixed in both sequences from IV, from Both times the death star fired in RO. I am still playing a little with this because the pacing of RO of when the death star fires is a lot slower than in SW IV.

–HUD corrections. Most of the HUDs that show the death star in RO involve some type of countdown progress of it downloading, I need to spend more time the HUD that Andwan did, as I can not simply take what I did in IV 1.4 and insert it in RO. The Huds will need to be modified in some way to show a progress bar. This will take a little longer than I thought.

Future plans for IV… There is actually a lot of good stuff in RO that could be incorporated in IV, I might revisit it and replace some shots. (such as the Falcon approaching the death star, rebel base ect.)

SuperSecretMuffin said:

Hi, it’s me, that annoying guy who makes suggestions every time you do one of these projects.

-Change the Death Star laser to match your ANH edit
-Add Planet Name text to Mustafar
-Integrate Adywan’s version of the DS plan graphic in the shots where it’s shown toward the end

I’ll take a look at that too.

With the upcoming release of RO, I have made plans to correct the shots with Vader adding cg lights, and some minor shots with Laser Blasts that were not screen correctly. Overall this project should not take too long. I am still working thru rebels, very tedious so this will be a welcomed break…

List of Changes
Vader: Will restore his chest plate lights (blinking ones) once again to match my IV 1.02 beta that has been floating out there for the last few years… I also plan on darkening his mask eyes once again to match the Original and prequel trilogy’s “III, V-VI”. I understand why Disney did it the way they did because there version was suppose to match how things were bridging RO with epIV from a physical continuity perspective. (But this is a Fan edit, and it needs to match my personal fan edit of IV.

While I am sure there will be a lot of Fan edits and ideas out there, I plan on mainly just releasing my Master MOV Cineform files of the the shots I changed. Those shots should be considered useful for any fan editors out there that want to make changes the pacing of the film, and I know there will be a lot out there.

I will list more changes as I scrub though the film if needed… Any other suggestions can be posted here in this forum and I will take them into consideration…

Thanks…

I used to access this site quite frequently but recently original trilogy resolves as a bunch of garbage html code. This happens on Safari and Chrome both in which I have installed on my iPhone 6. Is there a issue that recently caused this?

I even tried this on more than one iPhone, same issue…

episode 10- The future of the force…

Has been completed and uploaded, please use link from previous PM’s or hit me up if your interested.

Episode in progress.

https://youtu.be/PclCWjmjBgI

I’ve been tied up with Rebels. I do not have time right now to switch gears. I will have a look once I am finished with season 2.

I got half of season 2 up on a private share PM me if you would like to have access.

Kada22 said:

xxtelecine 7xx said:

Seems as if this thread has been resurrected, I am getting a lot of PM’s now of where it is for download. Problem is I never seeded it. Because of what I thought of lack of interest. I will create a seed tonight.

Hi, is there any chance to download the first season? Thanks!

I will have to get them up one share right now half of season 2 is avalible. Pm me for info

Posted by a fan. No doubt after rebels was released.

RogueLeader said:

I agree a lot with ben_danger. If you don’t do white, I would still do a near-white of blue, green or yellow if you do change it. Although I do think KOTOR 2 does feature silver lightsabers, so they do exist in those games as well. The reason I would say keep it white/near-white is because, like others have said, it reflects her being unaffiliated with the Jedi or the Sith, which the Filoni & co. intended I believe. If you go near-white, maybe just a hint of a “Jedi” color would suggest her being still light side oriented.

Also, I’d also love to have the saber-copters removed. The issue, though, is that they seem heavily integrated into the finale episode, and trying to remove them might make the episode feel like there are gaps that should explain how the Inquisitors move around so quickly. The third inquisitor falling to his death due to his saber malfunctioning would also have to be changed. I wish the concept hadn’t have been introduced in the first place, but removing them may prove difficult.

Regardless of your decisions, I also wanted to say that I appreciate all the work you put into this. I know it’s time consuming but the final product is definitely professional quality.

Someone please correct me if I am wrong is there any point in season 2 where it was explained by a character why her sabers were white? I am a huge SWTOR fan I like have 5 characters in that game, since there is no clear distinct reference outside of a behind the scenes or a online media source from a producer I think I am going to stick with green. I just rendered her first sequence with green. There is no reason why she could not of stuck with her preferred color from the clone wars she was still a light side force wield knight so I would have to think she would have been able to find some green crystals after she left the order shortly before order 66. Filoni & co would have been vetoed on that one by George himself if he was still in the directors chair.

With that said, I will render alt scenes with her in with yellow if there is a fan preference so when I send it to mega and you pm for a link you can specify what color of saber you want.

As far as releasing the prior episodes, with my of my preferred torrent sites being shut down, I will have to post these episodes on a mega share. I will start uploading a few episodes. PM me for links. And interest.

I got a few PM’s on my progress, I am about half way through the season, Below is clip that is a work in progress. Please ignore googles horrible compression, you have the option of downloading the master uploaded file for a better viewing experience.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_QH0BZEDXP1WGpHV3hkcndBaGs/view?usp=sharing

Still torn on what color to Make Asoka’s saber as far as her sequence comes up in this episode, I am between Green, Yellow, or Purple.

I did not like the line at first but after seeing that scene a few times over on YouTube. I think it kind of works as Vader does not care about the ambishions of others. Only himself.

Episodes 1 and 2 are finished for season 2. I will work on getting it up to a share, PM for a link. Availability should be 24-48 hours from now.

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

adywan said:

Finally, a clear shot of Rogue One’s Darth Vader. So it seems that he will swap between having his inner tunic under the chest plate to over it throughout the movie. And the lenses don’t look red here either, like they did in the trailers.

Is there photographic evidence of the alternative?

This comes as an relief for me. His chest plate does looks vintage 1977, my only hope is that it lights up. If not, I will be once again “awakened” and busy next year.

Many of you know of my work with rebels season 1 where my focus was to thicken the light sabers to match more of what we saw in the clone wars series minus the pointy tips.

Season 2 I will begin re scoping all sabers in that series. Also Asoka will have 2 versions (of the film) of her saber to be either (YELLOW) or (GREEN). I have been playing a lot of STAR WARS: The Knights of the old republic in my spare time. The developers of the game feel a empty or neutral chamber is yellow vs just white. Although I plan having a green version of the film, I did miss some TV episodes so I not entirely clear on if the white color of her saber was addressed on the show from a character standpoint.

I am also on the fence on cutting the flying helicopter sabers from show all together because it just looks stupid. Not sure on the community thoughts on that… But it seems like Disney is trying to pull a “Mary Poppins”…

I will update this thread once I start, and give updates of my progress…

As for now I am enjoying a nice long summer vacation relaxing…

Jackpumpkinhead said:

tell me what you think of this Hal

https://youtu.be/n6yj9MMjsxU

I would add motion blur to your models. Would sell it a little more.

darthrush said:

Kexikus said:

I agree with you, the TIEs should come from the stardestroyer in the background and also be far away so that it makes sense for the patrons not to run away. I would actually make them even smaller in that first shot of Finn looking to the sky. I would even go as far and make them really tiny white spots coming from the Stardestroyer and then about as big as they are in Telecines version for the second shot when Han and the patrons look up. But there also need to be some transports and in Telecines version they seem too ordered, which kinda makes them fake-looking I guess. I don’t really know how to fix that but I think some more variety in their movement/position could help.

+1

I am only following HAL’s 9000 direction. We went back and forth via PM of how to do this and his vision. My laptop can not handle element 3D very well where it was crashing AE and all of my compositions. So I was limited to using TIE cutouts from popular JPG files out on the internet. You can only manipulate a 2D image so much, so if I were to bring the TIE’s in any closer it would look Fake. Any ideas moving forth would be cool.

Hal I would recommend starting a new forum for this once you figure out a Title for your edit. This one is very old and General from way back when TFA was released last December.

sansuni said:

Sheepish said:
I could probably do that, but imo removing Jar Jar altogether leaves a lot of key scenes on the cutting room floor, and it would probably make the cuts far too jarring for a smooth progression.

Unless you’re talking about physically rotoscoping him out, instead of cutting around him. In which case, I don’t think anyone here would have the patience to sit down and do all of that. It took me the better part of a week just to accurately rotoscope one scene of Dooku sighing from Episode II. Doing the same for all of Jar Jar would be a nightmare.

I am talking about rotoscoping him of course, anyone can buther a movie.

If a simple scene like that took you that long, you are either doing something wrong or using the wrong software, this little clip only took me like 10 minutes.

Link: https://vid.me/9xx8
(fyi, originally Jar Jar was present in this scene.)

I have made several other scenes like that, for example I removed little Anakin from some certain scenes. But like I have said, it is time consuming to do it for the entire movie and time is a luxury I no longer have.

http://www.imagineersystems.com/videos/basics-of-the-remove-module-with-mocha-pro-part-03/?back=http://www.imagineersystems.com/video/page/2/?dd=dateNew&tagFilter=Training+Videos&orderby=date&order=DESC

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I would love to help you but frankly I have moved on from the pre-quills and HAL’s 9000 cuts are just fine.