vivsavage

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Post: #276580
Topic: Idea & Info Wanted: Is there a way to save Bakshi's Lord of the Rings?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/276580/action/topic#276580
Time: 11-Mar-2007 12:10 AM

Originally posted by: C3PX
I agree with DrGonzo. The type of animation may not be for everybody, but it is Bakshi style. The film is great in its own kind of way, and like DrGonzo sai, its biggest flaw is ending prematurely and not being the whole story. I don't see much point in trying to change it. And short of re-drawing it I have no idea how you would go about making it look more cartoony.

Just to clarify, I'm talking about making the blatantly "live action" parts appear more in line with the rest of the film. I hate that it stands out so much. It's like Mary Poppins or something. I actually like the film myself -- it's quite true to the books.

Post: #276352
Topic: Idea & Info Wanted: Is there a way to save Bakshi's Lord of the Rings?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/276352/action/topic#276352
Time: 9-Mar-2007 4:40 PM — Edited 10-Jul-2020 7:49 PM

There is a lot wrong with Bakshi’s LOTR, but the thing that irks me the most is the appearance of some of the “animation”. The scenes at Bree and Helm’s Deep, in particular, are clearly just live actors with some posterizing effect laid over them. I’ve wondered if it is possible to make these look more “cartoon-like” to blend in better with the traditional animation. I have After Effects, but haven’t been pleased with my results in trying this.

Post: #242242
Topic: Lord of the Rings - TTT - The Re-Edited Re-Edit Book Cut! (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242242/action/topic#242242
Time: 8-Sep-2006 2:46 PM

Originally posted by: Lord Phillock
Anybody got the Two Towers Disc 2 yet?

Yep! I've been flipping through it eagerly. I really like the way you end it with "Gollum's Song", which you've managed to blend in quite seamlesly. The only "criticism" I have is that the color grading seems to be too rich. Did you make DVD menus for these? I don't get any on my computer at least.

Post: #239678
Topic: Lord of the Rings - TTT - The Re-Edited Re-Edit Book Cut! (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/239678/action/topic#239678
Time: 30-Aug-2006 12:35 PM

Originally posted by: Lord Phillock
alright! go download Disc 4 of TTT... "The Ring Goes East"

Download now!

Can't get it! No one is seeding!

Post: #239486
Topic: Lord of the Rings - TTT - The Re-Edited Re-Edit Book Cut! (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/239486/action/topic#239486
Time: 29-Aug-2006 3:15 PM

Originally posted by: Lord Phillock
alright! go download Disc 4 of TTT... "The Ring Goes East"

Download now!

Sweet! What changes did you make to FOTR, by the way? I haven't downloaded that yet.

Post: #239204
Topic: Lord of the Rings - TTT - The Re-Edited Re-Edit Book Cut! (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/239204/action/topic#239204
Time: 28-Aug-2006 4:26 PM

Originally posted by: lordjedi
I'm about 3/4 through this one and considering the source material, I think it rocks. I think the only extra thing I would've done (and may when I do my edit) is take out the comic relief elements with Gimli. I haven't quite figured out how to do it, but your edit looks like a great template to start from.

I've taken out all the comic relief from Gimli in my version, which BTW will be on its way to you this week!

Post: #238466
Topic: Lord of the Rings - TTT - The Re-Edited Re-Edit Book Cut! (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/238466/action/topic#238466
Time: 25-Aug-2006 1:12 PM

Originally posted by: lordjedi
Vivsavage, check your PMs. You might have to search for lotr and search on both seeded and unseeded. There should be plenty of seeds on it now (there were 3 when I left home this morning and I was one of them).

Thank you so much!!!!

Post: #238303
Topic: Lord of the Rings - TTT - The Re-Edited Re-Edit Book Cut! (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/238303/action/topic#238303
Time: 24-Aug-2006 9:08 PM

Originally posted by: Marvolo
Search the user database for "Phillock".

No luck -- I'm not a member and it isn't accepting new registrations.

Post: #238285
Topic: Lord of the Rings - TTT - The Re-Edited Re-Edit Book Cut! (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/238285/action/topic#238285
Time: 24-Aug-2006 8:13 PM

I'm looking all over Demonoid for these edits and can't find one. Am I blind or are they no longer there?

Post: #238284
Topic: Editing MPEG2 on the Mac - is there a Womble clone?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/238284/action/topic#238284
Time: 24-Aug-2006 8:10 PM

Originally posted by: QtheGaijin
FCP Handles MPEG2, just rendering sucks. And not all the time is the audip and video synced.

It does?!?! Don't you have to recompress it when sending it to DVD? Are you able to edit it natively in the timeline?

Post: #238275
Topic: Editing MPEG2 on the Mac - is there a Womble clone?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/238275/action/topic#238275
Time: 24-Aug-2006 7:50 PM

When I create my fan edits, I use Mac the Ripper, Cinematize, Final Cut Pro, and DVD STudio Pro. I'm wondering, is there a program for the Mac that will allow you to edit in the native MPEG2 format without recompressing (such as Womble's MPEG Video Wizard)?

Post: #225355
Topic: Info: Anyone want to swap 'Lord of the Rings' re-edits?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/225355/action/topic#225355
Time: 9-Jul-2006 10:11 PM — Edited 10-Jul-2020 9:19 AM

I’m finishing up my re-edited ROTK and have already finished the Two Towers. All re-edited to hew closer to the books, structurally and content-wise. I can provide a list of changes if you want. I’m extremely happy with both and looking forward to re-editing FOTR (especially giving Aragorn back the whole broken sword story). Anyone want to swap LOTR re-edits?

Post: #218206
Topic: Lord of the Rings - FOTR - The Book-Cut (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/218206/action/topic#218206
Time: 13-Jun-2006 12:33 PM

I've been working on a series of LOTR re-edits and, I must say, Lord Phillock, your changes mirror mine very closely! Great minds and all that...

I'm very glad you have restored Aragorn's authority as well as the color to Lothlorien. Did you add color correction to the entire image, or just to parts of the image? It looks like you added some yellow and red. I was disappointed by the blue tones seen in the film -- didn't match the books at all IMO. What software did you use for your work?

The only thing I didn't do that you did was to put Boromir's death at the beginning of TTT. It just doesn't work dramatically IMO, even though your version is closer to the book in this regard. I'm very excited about my handling of the Ents and Entmoot.

I also restored Aragorn's broken sword to Fellowship, so that he carries it with him and has it reforged in Rivendell.

My TTT is done -- 4 hours long! Yikes! Now I'm working on ROTK. Compositing work is taking a while to fix the Witch King encounter.

Post: #218204
Topic: Lord of the Rings - FOTR - The Book-Cut (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/218204/action/topic#218204
Time: 13-Jun-2006 12:09 PM

Originally posted by: lordjedi
How can we get a copy of this? I'd like to check it out. Will it be going up on myspleen? I think we're really starting to need an a.b.fan-edits usenet group.

I guess we must have read different versions of the book!

Post: #191461
Topic: Help: looking for... LOTR - 'Two Towers: Purist's Edit'
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/191461/action/topic#191461
Time: 9-Mar-2006 9:26 AM — Edited 9-Jul-2020 7:02 PM

A couple of years ago, there was a “Purist’s Edit” of the Two Towers. Does anyone know where it can be found?

I have made a TTT version myself, and believe it goes even further than what I have read about the Purist’s Edit in returning the film to Tolkien’s books, right down to the very structure of the books (breaking it down into Books III and IV for example, ending the film with Frodo’s capture by the orcs after Shelob’s lair).

My version runs 4 hours. Nevertheless, I would really like to see this Purist’s Edit for comparison.

Post: #187422
Topic: LOTR: ROTK: The Book-Cut (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/187422/action/topic#187422
Time: 28-Feb-2006 9:05 AM

Originally posted by: Lord Phillock
that's what I'm currently planning on (sorry guys I REALLY want to upload the TT and ROTK movies I did and am trying to do that)
And I see not much to be edited... except the saruman sub-plot that needs to be refurbished...

so what else is there to edit in FOTR?

I'm working on one. Changing the Saruman story (like you), restoring Aragorn's broken sword (with some keyframing), removing any Gimli buffoonery, a couple of things to the council of Elrond. Gotta upload my Two Towers as well... I'm rather proud of it.

Post: #187412
Topic: Info Wanted: How many Lord of the Rings fan edits have there been?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/187412/action/topic#187412
Time: 28-Feb-2006 8:18 AM

Originally posted by: skyjedi2005
there was an edit of fellowship of the ring right on these boards but seems to have dissapeared. I think It was called " The Return of the Hobbit" or "THe Return of the Hobbits".

Do you know what was different about this version? There isn't much (if anything) about Fellowship that merits changing IMO.

Post: #178869
Topic: Info Wanted: How many Lord of the Rings fan edits have there been?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/178869/action/topic#178869
Time: 8-Feb-2006 3:09 PM

Originally posted by: ShiftyEyes
I would definitely encourage people to do their own edits of movies even if there are other edits available.

I personally am editing TTT and ROTK for my own personal use and don't intend to share them at all.

I gotta ask... what changes are you making? What software are you using?

For myself, I'm making two versions of each film: a "book" version that follows Tolkien as closely as possible, and a mildly edited version that retains 99.9% of the original films but deletes small annoyances like Gimli's buffoonery.

I'm using Final Cut Pro 5, DVD Studio Pro, Cinematize, and Mac the Ripper.

Post: #178813
Topic: Info Wanted: How many Lord of the Rings fan edits have there been?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/178813/action/topic#178813
Time: 8-Feb-2006 10:55 AM

Originally posted by: meedermow
Oh and btw, if you want to see any of the aforementioned edits - just ask via the PM system, you'll need to switch it on in your preferences.

Okay, I turned my PM on. If anyone out there can tell me where to see ay LOTR edits (or Dune or anything else really), send me a message! Thanks.

Post: #178812
Topic: Info Wanted: How many Lord of the Rings fan edits have there been?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/178812/action/topic#178812
Time: 8-Feb-2006 10:53 AM

Originally posted by: meedermow
I'd like to defer that question to "DarkFox"...

Just kidding

In terms of getting your edit out there for other fans - it will kinda happen itself. There are various avenues to persue such as torrents or by the pay-it-forward system that indirectly operates on various boards - send it to a few key people and the news will spread quicker than you can imagine !

Hollywood will never have an issue, imho, if the tenure of the edit is very much encouraged to be a re-envisioning of the original piece (flattering as opposed to plagiaristic). Similarly an overt message that this is intended as an experimental edit and that it should be expected that all that watch it should own the original work - whilst hardly a legal testament to the suits, will at least show goodwill on your behalf - see GreenCapt's Batman & Robin Edit, CrappyLogo's Wizard of Oz, CBB's edits and just about anything by the "big hitters" of the board: OCPMovie, ADigitalMan etc.

It should be noted that MagnoliaFan was even invited to Lucas' ranch ! So I hardly think there will be much coal-scraping if you enter into the spirit of these forums !

Good luck with the project and be sure to let us know how it's coming along

So if I upload an edit via torrent, do I just go on these boards and say "look what I did!" or is that too brazen?

Post: #178808
Topic: Info Wanted: How many Lord of the Rings fan edits have there been?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/178808/action/topic#178808
Time: 8-Feb-2006 10:39 AM

Originally posted by: meedermow
There's definitely one that I'm aware of (to the extent that I have it !) called The Entulesse Edit.

It sounds a little similar whereby - to my understanding - the fan editor has brought it more into line with the books.

There's also Lord Phillock's release as well - you can find a thread on it a few pages down.

However certainly don't let that put you off doing ROTK - the more the merrier

Lord Phillock

Thanks for the encouragement. While I've been a professional editor for over 10 years, I'm new to the world of shared fan edits. How do you get to see other fan edits as well as present your own work without being scraped over the coals by the movie indutsry?

Post: #178785
Topic: Info Wanted: How many Lord of the Rings fan edits have there been?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/178785/action/topic#178785
Time: 8-Feb-2006 9:28 AM — Edited 9-Jul-2020 6:59 PM

I’ve re-edited the Two Towers and am about to start on ROTK. I get the idea that there are quite a few of these LOTR edits around (?).

Are there?

Has anyone seen one?

Post: #178143
Topic: Info Wanted: What is FanFiltration?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/178143/action/topic#178143
Time: 6-Feb-2006 7:16 PM

Originally posted by: Sky_
Iv just seen some of Fanfiltartions WOrk
and simply its
AWESOME

That's cool! So, errr... how do I see some of it?

Post: #177693
Topic: Idea & Info: a Dune Fan Edit thread...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/177693/action/topic#177693
Time: 5-Feb-2006 3:19 PM

Originally posted by: Matt_Stevens
My hope is there is little to no music in the Center channel on the EE DVD version. This way we can strip it to the center channel only and do what we want with the music and sound. As long as the sound mix is "normal" that can be done and we can create a seemless transition from theatrical to extended shots.

What extraction software can decode multiple channelsand keep them seperate? I'm using Cinematize, which will unfortuanely downmix everything to 2 channels.

Post: #177665
Topic: Idea & Info: a Dune Fan Edit thread...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/177665/action/topic#177665
Time: 5-Feb-2006 10:59 AM

I'm curious as to what FanFiltration is doing abuot mixing scenes from the Smithee version with that of the Lynch version in regards to music. The Smithee version has a pervasive soundtrack that won't (IMO) mix well with the Lynch version. For instance, there are scenes in the Lynch version that have no music, while the Smithee version has a constant soundtrack running through the entire scene. Are you going to ujust use the entire Smithee version in such cases? If only there was a way to remove the music from the Smithee version... it's bloody awful.