Does this Mono sync with the 2014 blu ray? (aka the yellow one 😃)
Hi, does anyone have the Mono mix please? (Another member was kind enough to share a 2.1 mix that contained the LFE from the 5.1 remix, but I was hoping someone would have the mono without the added LFE please?)
I don’t know if the UK is identical to the US. It needs a delay also because the mgm logo is cut out. PM me for the file though.
PM sent. Thank you 😃
Would the DTS HD MA 2.1 (i.e. the original mono mix) sync with the UK blu ray?
If so, is there anyone kind enough to share the mono mix please? (I can mux it my own blu ray)
Thank you for posting those lightsaber shots, much appreciated!
Is it possible to post a screencap of what Vader's and Luke's lightsabers look like please? Same with Empire duel please?
It's been so long, I can't remember what they should look like :(
Thank you for again for being so thorough!
I've quoted you again over BR forums :)
Cheers dude, I've posted a quote over in the thread at Blu ray.com to avoid confusion :)
Here's the link to the specific thread
@ Lil Brutto
There's some confusion about whether it really is the original mono on the new disc, could you provide a definitive/noticeable scene where it'll be easy for others to tell it's a different track and not just 5.1 downmix please?
Cool.
I've ordered it, so fingers crossed!
Lil Brutto said:
Although the description isn't entirely accurate this should be it based on the cover design and release date:
http://www.amazon.com/Good-Bad-Ugly-Blu-ray-Wallach/dp/B00MA159L2/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1415552907&sr=8-3&keywords=good+bad+ugly+blu+ray
The audio for some extended scenes has been edited. Most significantly, the monologue/dialogue of the grotto scene, which had terrible synchronization in the previous releases, has been revised.
Can you confirm if it's region free please?
Lil Brutto said:
FYI:
http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=11776.60
I just picked up a copy and I can confirm the new GBU 4K BD has the original mono mix during the International cut scenes. Unfortunately, it's lossy Dolby Digital 1.0 192kbps.
Is there a link to this version on Amazon UK? Or an Amazon US link? (Provided it's region free).
I assume it's different to the standalone UK release from earlier in the year.
A quick question, if they did a 4K restoration of the UOT, but ONLY actually corrected the lightsabers (& mattes), would anyone really be upset?
And by correct, I mean Luke saber is now the same shade of blue throughout SW & ESB, and Darth Vader's is actually the same red throughout SW & ESB & ROTJ.
Instead of Luke saber fluctuating from white to greenish to blue in SW. And Vader's as red and pink.
hairy_hen said:
That's exactly what I said: they'll do it if they think there's money in it. My concern is that they will deem it as having a negligible impact on their profits, and therefore not worth bothering with.
Does anyone really think that ticket sales for the new movies will be affected in any way by whether the original versions are available in stores? Or that the amount of toys sold will be influenced by this? Children buying toys today do not know or care whether Han shot first or not. It makes no difference to them; therefore it makes no difference to Disney. An official release could happen, but it would take a lot of persuading by people on the inside who have sufficient clout and can make a convincing case for it. They're not going to do it on their own, because that's not the reason they bought the Star Wars brand.
I agree to the extent of the negligible profits in a short term sense BUT the release of the OT could be both a theatrical re-release in 4K of the original films for the first time ever, followed by a blu-ray release which would also have an exclusive featurette/early look at Episode 7. The OT release would be (a small but important) part of the overall marketing strategy for Episode 7.
The short term profits may be negligible but consider it from a long term perspective: brand quality and assurance is confirmed to the now parents who will pay for the childs ticket to Ep7. Additionally faith in the films is restored to the lapsed fan base and to a potential new audience (further garnered by positive press and a marketing campaign) AND finally the films would finally be restored for future re-releases (i.e. your easy profit point, for example, buy the special comic con collector's 4K UHD boxset of Episode 1-9 now with talking yoda head etc).
They bought the Star Wars brand to make money for the all forseeable future. Episode 7 is a small step in their overall plans, which are ultimately to sell and license merchandise which will, make no mistake, occur with Eps 8 & 9 as well disguised 2hour adverts for kids toys.
There will also be a new generation of kids who, yes won't care who shot first, but likely haven't seen the OT and would be taken to theoretical screenings of the OT by their parents (who want to see the OT). The parents see what they've always wanted, the kids love it and want the toys. The prior home video mess of releases is also reset for Disney.
hairy_hen said: they don't have to bother to do anything at all to make a profit at this point. The work has already been done, from their point of view. Clearly, alienating a percentage of longtime fans isn't something they're concerned about,
Your post is incorrect and based off inaccurate assumptions about revenue and profit projections.
What GlastoEls posted is much more inline with what Disney will be considering. Questions like, "would a particular release expand the existing market and would it potentially increase/drive Ep7 revenue higher?"
Your post about, "bother to do anything at all to make a profit" is again inaccurate and a rather naive assumption about how the business works. Yes, it is Star Wars and yes it is likely to generate a profit, but Disney will still carry out the necessary market research, profit/revenue projections/marketing strategy etc. Disney will be thinking of making money off its 4 billion dollar investment both long term and short term. They will not sit in their offices and think, "gee, it's star wars, release any old shite and we're guaranteed profits!"
Disney need to create, foster and maintain a certain brand quality and image in order to make profit years from now. Ep7 is merely the start to drive their Star Wars business, and the most ideal way to start is to create goodwill and trust with the existing and lapsed fanbase before driving it further with the sequels to sell merchandise.
Their starting strategy is pretty clear (discount any EU stuff to show that they're series about Star Wars as a movie series). Shoot using film, practicals, sets, models etc (Disney have purposely been showing this side of their direction. They've kept the use CGI very low key, even though the film will use plenty of CGI). This isn't out of heart felt concern for fanboys, but the beginning of their marketing and hype strategy.
If an original trilogy release would help their overall business to sell the Star Wars brand, Disney will do it.
Re illegal
In the UK the celluloid itself isn't illegal, but the images are, so technically if it went to court the film studio would have to let you keep the celluloid BUT they would be able to wipe the image from it first.
Of course, if no one knows and it's not used commercially then it won't really be an issue.
Fang Zei said:
Jaitea said:
Fang Zei said:
The only thing this Atlanta screening might've been the "first" of is a dcp made from the 2011 version, which in any event is still based off the 2004 Lowry master.
I agree that the RMW job was probably in preparation for the 3D conversion of the OT, which I would bet Disney is still gonna do.
It costs about $10 million to convert a two-hour movie to 3D. Each of the OT movies would at least do the same box office as TPM 3D, so I don't see Disney passing up that opportunity.
Don't forget it was Disney that pulled the plug on the 3D re-releases
.....hopefully they have better plans for the new scans
J
They "pulled the plug" (not how they phrased it) for obvious reasons when they announced Ep7 was happening in 2015. They were gonna put out one movie a year, then it was gonna be AotC and RotS a few weeks apart in September/October 2013, then the Disney deal happened and priorities changed.
All they ever technically said was that the rest of the 3D re-releases were being postponed indefinitely.
I still think they'll at least do a 3D theatrical re-release of the OT at some point between now and Ep7. They'll make serious money off of it anyway and it makes sense from a nostalgia standpoint. Yeah, it'll be the SE again, but from a new scan and with better-looking picture and colors. Like we've discussed in this thread, a lot of people out there don't really care about the different versions of the movies. Hell, the $40 million or so that TPM 3D pulled in shows that people apparently don't even care which installment it is.
But a 3D trailer from a well-done conversion job of a nice new 4k master would blow audiences away, I think. Disney is undoubtedly considering this, at the very least.
I don't think they'll do a 3D re-release.
I think a cinema release of a 4K remaster (like Taxi Driver/Jaws etc) in 2D before episode 7 is more likely, because episode 7 is being shot on film. What better way to build trust with the OT audience than to release the original trilogy remastered in 4K? It also lines up with their marketing efforts for episode 7 (i.e. life sized ships/models, filming on proper sets/locations, shooting to both 35mm and 65mm like the original film (Lucas used 65mm for the visual effects shots to maintain better image quality)).
Fang Zei said:
Oh, I bet it's no longer a big deal to George if the unaltered originals at least get a new transfer, just as long as it doesn't look better than his preferred version.
Being pragmatic, I just don't think he cares. He took $4Billion and walked away.
Disney will do what it thinks is best to preserve and expand the value of the brand.
Anything mentioned about Lucas is merely lip service.
digitalfreaknyc said:
darklordoftech said:
gizzy2000 said:
Does anyone hear think that Disney might not ever release the OT out of respect for Lucas' "true vision" for the films
Nope. If the fans don't respect Lucas's "true vision", why would an organization devoted to making money respect it?
If it was, somehow, written into the contract, then they'd have to. I can't see Disney accepting those terms but....who knows? Crazier things have happened.
The deal with Disney wasn't overnight. Sure, it was announced overnight, but the deal would have been structured over a long period of time. The deal would have regards to Lucas wanting to release 'his' blu rays and allowing breathing room so as not to cannibalize sales of those blu rays. All of it would then hand over to Disney to the tune of $4Billion.
For you, me and fans we can speculate on 'visions and artistic intents' but make no mistake, when Disney and Lucas sat down, they didn't discuss 'visions and artistic intents'. They discussed a property/an IP/a brand to drive sales of merchandise. Disney will do as it pleases with Star Wars. They don't pay $4billion to kowtow to a nondescript 'vision'.
For them, a release of the OOT will fundamentally boil down to a business decision. This business decision will be about one principle objective; to a) create 'goodwill' among the fanbase (i.e. we got this guys, Star Wars is in good hands, honest!), to b) create hype and drive momentum for Episode 7 which c) will in turn set-up sequels which will act as thinly veiled 2 hour adverts to sell merchandise and structure licensing deals.
Michael Corleone says, "...it's not personal, it's just business."
Awesome! Looking forward to it man :)
@ The Hutt,
Good to hear you're doing a v1.1. Will you announce when it's ready please?
@PDB
Hope you don't mind, but I posted your image over at blu-ray forums and credited you. Just thought it would be interesting to share :)
Cheers! Going to order the US version
jimbotron235 said:
supersonic395 said:
Are there any official release blu rays with the original English mono track available? (Lossy or lossless)
EDIT
Was the 5.1 track for this 'redone' in that they used newer foley effects like TGTBTU 5.1?
The US Blu-ray has the mono mix in lossy DD.
Thanks for the info.
Is the US Blu Ray region free?
Are there any official release blu rays with the original English mono track available? (Lossy or lossless)
EDIT
Was the 5.1 track for this 'redone' in that they used newer foley effects like TGTBTU 5.1?