SilverWook said:
Finally?
http://www.thenational.ae/arts-culture/film/star-wars-episode-vii-evidence-in-abu-dhabi-desert
The author of that article got one item wrong though. Tunisia wasn't used in ROTJ.
Its an At-AT foot.
Courtesy of 4chan.
I haven't stopped by this forum in almost a year; and it still amazes me how much time, effort and energy Ady has put into this project.
The finish line is in sight, and you deserve a long break between this and RotJ:R
I also have no experience animating titles, you guys saw the blocky-alien-esque reveal I did... That's about as far as my skills go.
It'd be awesome if one of you with the knowhow could do it. Otherwise I may just stick with the resources that I have.
As for the ending, I found some recent save files on my laptop. Some of which shortened the ending with shaw dying/no lifeboat etc. I still really like this direction, but when I'm back in the editing chair, I wouldn't be surprised if I go back to the original ending I had.
It's been a few months, and I guess I have no excuses for leaving so many of you guys hanging other then I suffer from depression/suicidal urges, and my current living situation has left me in limbo of weather I would spend the rest of this year homeless.
Both of which not making the other any more bearable.
In the few times I've gotten online since my last posting, I've always been drawn back to this thread, and to the many private messages that have piled up. Some of the messages eagerly cheering me on, or showing me screencaps of people talking about the rough edit on 4chan and the like.
These messages have helped drive me through this tough time in life, and now since a lot of my worries have settled down, I feel like finishing this is just one more step in the right direction for me.
Please don't let the internal conflicts going on with me hold back any of your criticism/concern/questions/ideas from this thread.
Its good to be back.
I cannot thank you enough, honestly.
for some flickering animation, Some intuition is telling me the letters appear outermost first and then inward.
ive made a mockup with your opening, for some reason it's taking forever to render these few minutes tonight.
I'll edit this post and throw a link below tomorrow.
things I've noticed, it's a nice cold open, without giving too much away, it makes the film nicely bookended with shaw alone, and feels dreamlike while it lasts,
however, it does take away from a slow 2001-ish feel to the opening. From its first seconds it screams-big budget space action film, without organically getting to that point. It obviously feels like a setup, that can't get much resolution to when we get back around to the derelict crashing. Cutting back in to waylands speech or her and holloway on the isle of sky doesn't change much from showing her eager transmission at the end in my newest clip.
The difference is that, in context, that segment is signifying her death, and passing to the afterlife/meeting her maker etc., for which she is venturing forward.
I've tryed using her final transmission audio from the theatrical as well, because of that final "and I'm still searching" line for the same purpose. (Didn't work, way too upbeat for a woman sobbing on the ground)
Anyhow going BACK to waylands "we are the gods now", again, sounds like a great closing line, but we desperately NEED that kind of foolhardy ambition, "science for sciences sake" attitude from wayland from the start, yes we get that from the rest of the speech, but the audience in film acts as we do, "is this guy serious?"
I've also toyed with opening the film with the Leviticus 4:26 passage, dare I say a bit preachy to begin the film with?
Maybe it's just the booze.
Do Tell, (when you have the time)
and THAT is an awesome font!
Though if the title was a little more serif-Ed with lines on top and bottom the individual IV, II, and VI I'd love it!
Example layout~
LV: IV II VI
Or Leviticus in that font, if you're up to the challenge Johnny ringo!
Plus on top of religious motifs, we also have that whole AIDS/rape motif that a lot of sci-fi horror films from the 70s-80 had. (John Carpenter's 'the thing', 'invasion of the body snatchers 'also immediately sprung into my mind)
with incurable illness,caused by trauma, something inside you, that takes your form, but different.... kinda thing going on.
Anyways, I am a fan of Black and White, there were many times on this edit that I contemplated having this edit be that way, HOWEVER the problem is that I'm a big fan of Prometheus' color scheme. Mustard and Cyan, whatta combo.
Im willing to go black and white on some other edits that I think could benefit from toning down visuals (i.e. star wars prequels,king kong, etc), and MAYBE this one could fit the bill, I just dont think it would add anything other then a forced 'classy factor',
I Like Leviticus as a title, Especially in that digital style. If we could come up with some interesting way that would fit with Alien and Aliens, and someone could animate a title reveal, which would just have to be on a black background.
Then by all means. Your photoshop skills are greater then mine.
Also I have yet to get to a computer, but I love that font. Is there any way to make an example of that, with a numeral 426?
I would be down with Roman numerals most any day, but having LV as letters throws the rest off for me. And as much as I can handle people stumbling over the name, I can't help but real it phonetically as: Ell-Vee-AI-VEE-AI-AI-Vee-AI
I always took it (and I'm non religious) as Leviticus 4:26
I somewhat tried that, theres just the aspect of the dream looking intentionally computer-y....
I'll give it another shot.
I don't think a montage is the way to end it on, but I do hear what you mean.
as is, it feels like it needs something more to connect it to alien; but all of the pieces that we really need are there: the derelict, and the transmission.
without its 4th act, it (this edit) ends right as it starts picking up. If I said 15 minutes were cut out, you'd all believe me.
I tried finding some use for shaws dream, that I cut out, somewhere before she died; but no sections worked out for me.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0sf0gzarlyncjbv/darkending.mp4
how about a dark ending where they never deploy the lifeboat, the engeneer never leaves the ship (as we find out, in alien, was facehugged), David dies with old man wayland, we are left with this (now moved) part of the transmission,
And Shaw finally gets to meet her maker.
I can't make vickers live.... Doesn't mean I have to make anyone live~
I sent you a private message with my original rough draft, That scene does look good and is a nice homage to alien, The more I watch it though the less I like it.
If you had asked me a week ago, yes, now, maybe not.
I would like to take a moment to thank this community.
You guys were a lot more responsive than I ever expected you guys to be, And something that I started doing for myself, Eventually turned out to be for everyone.
I'm looking through concept posters for font ideas. The one in the recent link was a blocky one for an homage to alien/wayyy easier to cut into pieces.
ill upload the new ending soon, I'm not too satisfied, and I feel like the movie basically stops, rather then has an ending. As much as I loved working on this project, I'm at the point where I just want to be done with it.
so I'll let brimforge and Johnny rango (and others? YOU?) weigh in, I'm sure it'll be polarizing. If there's no fans, I'll fix up the old one.
I guess it comes down to the note that you want to leave the film with,
the theatrical leaves you with a hint at a sequel, and a final glimpse of a xeno.
The old final leaves you with the notion that shaw was right.
this new ending leaves on a downer note, with the transmission.
And it's the transmission that's really the glue tying this ending to the beginning of alien.
Alien league is a half assed Attempt to create the 'aliens' font. It also begins to look horrible the moment it's over size 72.
Editing is under way and I'm a little unsatisfied with my rough ending, i wish there was just 30 more seconds of Shaw crying on the ground.
I like the way the title fades in on the ending credits, But I tried something new with the first approach to the planet, This was thrown together in about an hour or so.
Johnny, you're more ambitious then I'll ever be.
i mean that as a compliment, and as for the Prometheus 2 news, oh boy, at least we don't have to wait long
And in case there is a sequel, Expect a conversation, Followed by another fan edit by me.
Would anyone be opposed to me cutting out the final attack with an engineer?
And ending the film on a more ambiguous note? I know I'm probably going to get the response of "It's your edit dude, go nuts"
I feel like cutting the fourth act, And all the ties that this would have that with a sequel, The overall standalone film will be better. I'll try to edit something and throw up a link tonight.
Though im not a fan of the Roman numerals, some sort of title reveal would be necessary. If anyone would be willing to help me out, I'd be eternally grateful.
I guess I'll have to try something new with the ending, I'll post something soon
Well, a big part of this cut was to make this planet LV-426. I cut out the hologram naming the planet LV-226, and also cut the birth of the birth of the deacon.
meaning, after he was face-hugged, he went back to the nearest ship to send out a message, or something, and finally he's found in alien.
And im back in the editing room, (finally), so who knows what I could do with this before the final.
Im a fan of Simple, one-word titles (and so is the franchise, minus Alien:Resurrection, but who counts that one?)
So, in this moment of haste, I plan on Releasing this as LV-426 from now on.
edit: I now realize this may mean losing the title at the end. maybe the LV_426 is the title with Prometheus as a subtitle?