smudger9

420moviesnob said:

Dude this stuff looks great. So hyped to watch your edit, will the end be the same as the show? With grogru and mando at their new home?

Also what’s the ETA on this edit?

Thanks.

ETA is always difficult for me to predict. I don’t have as much time to devote to editing as others here, so a week can often slip by without any progress. I’m also annoyingly anal about music transitions and one tricky one can sometimes take several hours if I need to rebuild audio.

That being said, I’m confident it will be done by next month.

That will give me a couple of months to tidy up Episodes 2 and 3 before Ahsoka!

STF78 said:

smudger9 said:

Here is a clip of something I’ve been working on to do with Paz’s death.

I always felt that Paz should have been killed by the Mando troopers, firstly to make them seem like a threat and secondly to leave the Praetorian Guards for Mando. Instead Paz swaps the Mando troopers away like battle droids.

I could have been a really easy edit, but unfortunately the way the series was cut, there were no decent shots of the Mando troopers to edit into the sequence. I had to resort to doing a cut away to Bo. Anyway, let me know what you think. The audio will be refined, its more a proof of concept clip. I’m not convinced it’s quite good enough.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/15RnLf-njysYvrLasTe0nRQi4nw624iEj

I think it works, certainly to the point that someone who hadn’t watched the original episode wouldn’t notice there had been any change made (once the audio is refined as you say)

That’s the point I’m at with it. It works, but I’m not convinced it’s quite good enough. A real frustration. All I needed was a decent shot of the Mando troopers firing.
I’ll give it a complete watch through before release and decide then. It works much better in terms of how the finale plays out, but the scene itself isn’t quite right.

A couple of little clips to share.
This one is how I deal with removing almost all of the Foundling episode (grogu training and child rescue sequences)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1meg8uQo7-mwigNMhShEsiouQPs9J0Ee0

And this is how I removed the Mandalore garden sanctuary scene which destroys the pacing and sense of danger in the finale.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-ZJRL6WyqdBJ7E-Cs5O-yQ3qYxrZzVH7

Here is a clip of something I’ve been working on to do with Paz’s death.

I always felt that Paz should have been killed by the Mando troopers, firstly to make them seem like a threat and secondly to leave the Praetorian Guards for Mando. Instead Paz swaps the Mando troopers away like battle droids.

I could have been a really easy edit, but unfortunately the way the series was cut, there were no decent shots of the Mando troopers to edit into the sequence. I had to resort to doing a cut away to Bo. Anyway, let me know what you think. The audio will be refined, its more a proof of concept clip. I’m not convinced it’s quite good enough.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/15RnLf-njysYvrLasTe0nRQi4nw624iEj

wowbobwow said:

smudger9 said:

wowbobwow said:

How were you able to get a clean SFX & dialogue track?

I asked the same thing in the YouTube comments. It was pristine!

I’m suspecting the Live to Picture audio tracks leaked at some point and the OP has the RotJ one at least.

How do you get hold of these?

aleccaruana said:

Could I get a link please? If you have a BoBF and Mandalorian Season 3 mashup, I’d also be interested.

PM Sent. Mandalorian S3 will be a separate edit. Unfortunately there is too much material to combine the BOBF material and S3.

No. This will be compatible. Grogu and Mando reuniting is remaining in Episode 3.

wowbobwow said:

How were you able to get a clean SFX & dialogue track?

I asked the same thing in the YouTube comments. It was pristine!

Phase3 said:

I enjoyed your previous Mando episodes, and am looking forward to your next instalment! This season was really disappointing…The horrendous over-acting by the “guest stars” on the planet Plazir-15, along with the “droid bar” was awful, plus an entire episode just for Pershing, which ended up going nowhere was just silly haha! I’m so glad that you will remove all of that footage!

Will you be removing the awful generic “pirates-starting-a-fight” scene from episode 1? The first introduction to the pirates can come from episode 5, which would cut down on the poorly-written characters being on-screen for very long. Oh and can I suggest removing some of the pathetic over-acting from the pirates when they’re chasing Din in their starfighters? There is too much “tough guy” talk, straight out of a thousand generic action films.

The in-battle chat has been mostly edited out. I tried to re-work the Nevarro scene from Episode 1 to remove the pirates completely, but I couldn’t find a solution I was satisfied with, particularly as I wanted to keep the references to Cara Dune and Moff Gideon.

As a compromise I have edited it so make it slight less cringe-inducing, and it actually acts as a nice pointer to the subsequent pirate invasion, which otherwise happens out of the blue.

szopman said:

Are you going to delete the short scene where Gideon is tracking Mando and Grogu ? I think it just didn’t make any sense.

Very mediocre season but I’m sure your edit will make it much more enjoyable;)

I haven’t yet done a second watch-through with my editing head on. I’m sure if it doesn’t make sense I’ll cut it!

ArtixRules said:

I honestly think Elia Kane could be removed from the fanedit quite smoothly since she doesn’t factor into the finale and her and Pershing’s story only slowed things down to a grinding halt

The Pershing story was already in the bin! Thankfully the finale passed without reference to him. Kane will appear twice, in her role as Gideon’s spy.

szopman said:

smudger9 said:

STF78 said:

smudger9 said:

szopman said:

In the end, you’re going to move the Luke Skywalker stuff to this film ? Or you re gonna leave it as a part of Ep III?

Leaving it in episode 3. I’m currently mulling over a radial change to EPs 2 and 3 to take out more Boba stuff and shuffle things around.

Are you able to give us any more info on the potential changes to episodes two and three?

Episode 2 is a bit of an issue because it now has some important story elements missing.

1. Carson Teva’s interactions with Mando/Nevarro.
2. The cloning facility on Nevarro.
3. Elspeth Morgan and the Beskar spear.

These elements were cut to stick to a reasonable runtime and allow Luke’s appearance to be the finale. However, these elements have become very important.

My current thinking is to put these elements back into episode 2 and have the movie end on a cliffhanger with Gideon’s capture of Grogu. (Like ESB).

The rescue can then be the opening of Episode 3 and the sudden decision to capture Pershing can be explained in the opening crawl. I will then cut Boba’s story down to a bare minimum and have episode three to focus on Mando and Grogu.
Grogu’s training scenes will be intercut with Mando’s journey. Mando will not travel to meet Grogu, Grogu will make his decision and then head off to find Mando.

The main negative is that Luke’s first appearance begs to be the finale of a movie, not the end of the opening act, but this would allow all the important story beats to be included.

I know it may be a big change, but why not split season 2 into two movies?
2x07 is one of the best fillers ever in Star Wars franchise. So you could maybe make one movie that ends with Grogu’s capture and then another (a bit shorter) one that would end with Luke big finale?
Or, alternatively, you could make 1 film from 2x01-5 (cutting filler of course), intercutting the storylines of Mando, Ahsoka and Boba (using some flashbacks from TBOBF, like him starting to work with Fennec). Then the 2nd film would start with some good intense action (2x06) and its main theme could be rescuing Grogu.

I think s02 is totally worth 2 films (this way you can extend Ahsoka’s stuff as well).

There’s not really enough material for 2 movies in season 2. It’s in that horrible zone of too much for one but not enough for 2.

On a plus note, season 3 wrapped up nicely with no annoying Filoni call backs to elements that I had decided to cut! Looks like episode 4 will clock in around the 2h 35 mark.

johnsuverly said:

Is something that will be available to purchase on Blu-ray ?

Fanedits aren’t sold, they are shared for free and should only be watched if you have legal access to the original source material.

STF78 said:

smudger9 said:

szopman said:

In the end, you’re going to move the Luke Skywalker stuff to this film ? Or you re gonna leave it as a part of Ep III?

Leaving it in episode 3. I’m currently mulling over a radial change to EPs 2 and 3 to take out more Boba stuff and shuffle things around.

Are you able to give us any more info on the potential changes to episodes two and three?

Episode 2 is a bit of an issue because it now has some important story elements missing.

1. Carson Teva’s interactions with Mando/Nevarro.
2. The cloning facility on Nevarro.
3. Elspeth Morgan and the Beskar spear.

These elements were cut to stick to a reasonable runtime and allow Luke’s appearance to be the finale. However, these elements have become very important.

My current thinking is to put these elements back into episode 2 and have the movie end on a cliffhanger with Gideon’s capture of Grogu. (Like ESB).

The rescue can then be the opening of Episode 3 and the sudden decision to capture Pershing can be explained in the opening crawl. I will then cut Boba’s story down to a bare minimum and have episode three to focus on Mando and Grogu.
Grogu’s training scenes will be intercut with Mando’s journey. Mando will not travel to meet Grogu, Grogu will make his decision and then head off to find Mando.

The main negative is that Luke’s first appearance begs to be the finale of a movie, not the end of the opening act, but this would allow all the important story beats to be included.

szopman said:

In the end, you’re going to move the Luke Skywalker stuff to this film ? Or you re gonna leave it as a part of Ep III?

Leaving it in episode 3. I’m currently mulling over a radial change to EPs 2 and 3 to take out more Boba stuff and shuffle things around.

WitchDR said:

Love the changes made Smudger! I agree the Pershing stuff is better left on the cutting room floor.

I think we can do without Grogu getting the armor. If we see it in the finale, like he gets hit or something and it protects him, we can just imply that they armored him up before they went to Mandalore.

But I do think you should keep the flashback though. What if you just implemented parts of it into this scene? Just trim it up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO_l-dI5CFY&ab_channel=DailyDisclosure

That’s exactly what I’m going to do!

arabian said:

Isn’t Grogu getting the armor made of Beskar significant because it shows that he’s a foundling, accepted as a Mandalorian?

It is, but again that plot thread hasn’t been expanded upon. I’m also removing the training sequence. This leaves the audience to assume, rightly IMO, that he’s too young to be considered a foundling.

With just the finale to go, I’ve been spending a bit of time on the edit this weekend given that we pretty much know how its going to play out. I’ve made a few significant changes to my plan.

Firstly I’ve decided to remove the Dr Pershing thread completely. It doesn’t seem to be going anywhere and the scenes don’t work well as the parallel story to the main plot. Gideon explains to the shadow council what happened to Pershing and I think that’s all that is needed.

Instead I’ve reinstated the first Nevarro scene (minus the brief space battle with Mando) to have the Pirate and New Republic/Gideon threads as the parallel story using Carson Teva as the link between the Pirate and New Republic threads.
I have moved the scene of Teva discovering Gideon’s shuttle into the first act, along with the Shadow Council scene (which I’ve split from Kane’s report). Gideon is our villain in this season, so I want his presence to be felt throughout, not a reveal in the final act.

I’ve also removed the armourer/Grogu scene along with Grogu’s flashback. I love part of that flashback scene, but its not essential. The rest of the scene doesn’t add anything and now that Grogu has IG-12 it seems that the armour he was presented with is insignificant.

Including the opening crawl the current runtime is 2h15, which will comfortably allow the finale to be added without having to do any further trimming. Fingers crossed that the things I’ve cut don’t end up being crucial! Although knowing Filoni they will be!

Can’t wait for the finale!

hinventon said:

Hi, I started watching this episode and it’s great so far! Will post my thoughts once finishing it. One thing I would argue for the beginning though is to reinstate a version of the first scene, as it introduces Mando in a much cooler way. In this version, the crawl states he’s an expert bounty hunter, but the first scene we get with Din is a dinosaur wiping the floor with him. Seeing how cool he is for his first scene would do a lot, although it would add to the runtime slightly.

Somewhat unrelated, but after the Filoni movie announcement I’ve been thinking of ways to combine all these shows into one storyline - it might be cool to label the movie saga as Heir to the Empire and have the subtitle be the focus. S1 could be The Mandalorian, S2 could be The Jedi, Boba could be The Bounty Hunter, and S3 could relate to Bo. Then Ahsoka would follow a similar theme, and eventually the real movie. This way all the shows could follow one storyline with each “film” focusing on a different thing.

I dont disagree with you about the opening scene. One of the difficulties with making these movie edits is deciding what needs to be sacrificed for structure and pacing, and to protect the runtime. It does show us Mando at his bounty hunting peak, but in terms of pacing it made the first act too long. I tried to compensate by removing most of the occasions where he gets shot (Ig-11, Fennec, Gideon) to make him seem a more competent warrior - he gets shot an awful lot of times during season 1.

Daiyus said:

I’ve been planning to rewatch Andor and I think your two films would be the perfect way to do it. Could I please get links for both?

Sure thing. DM sent.

szopman said:

2h25min? In the end you saved more than I thought you would 😄

That’s a rough cut. None of the scenes have been “tightened” yet.

There is some important stuff in Episode 1, but there is also a lot that doesn’t need to be included. Din’s first trip to Bo Katan is the opening scene. The first Nevarro trip is not in currently because there isn’t anything essential and we subsequently revisit Nevarro multiple times. The opening scene of the Armourer’s covert is also included, but the monster is removed - there are just too many monsters in this season! I’m trying to be minimalist at the moment because I really don’t want to end up with so much material that I need to do 2 movies. The aim is very much 1 movie, 2h 45 runtime.

The New Republic Plot is also in there, but focused on Kane and edited down to a minimum. It is spaced out and intercut with the primary storyline.

Current rough cut is 2h 25 with one episode left!

szopman said:

I guess we just got like 50min of useful footage for this edit 😄

Finally!

Can I get a link please?

WitchDR said:

Yes, please remove that awful Romeo and Juliet scene. I think Bo and Din arriving on the planet and them meeting up with the other Mandos is all that’s worth keeping from this episode. Everything else belongs in the bin.

This is the way!