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#1004626
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Searching Original Trilogy Hungarian Bootleg Narration Voice (for sound preservation, editing to the GOUT DVDs)
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Sorry for not being here for a long time, but I have some problems in my life.

I will try to be here regularly from now on, at least once a week or more.

puzosep said:

[…] A Jedi-t, a '80-as években állítólag szinkronnal (Pannónia!?) is ment a mozikban.

Nem, a Jedit-t elöszsör 1993-ban szinkronizálták a Guild-os Videótekás Video-változathoz, itt még az eredeti hangokat tudták meg kérni rá, késöb aztán 1995-ben és 1997-ben készültek a ma ismert szinkronok hozzá.

Ahogyan a magyar SW-Klub is írja: "Ám a kiadás igazi különlegessége: ez az egyetlen hivatalos adathordozó, amelyiken az eredeti szinkronok megtalálhatók! A Csillagok Háborúja szinkronja a már többször is említett 1984-es TV-szinkron, a Birodalom Visszavág-ra az eredeti mozis verzió került (1982), a Jedi visszatér-re pedig egy teljesen új, kifejezetten erre a kiadásra készített magyar hang lett rakva, ugyanis a moziban feliratosan adták, úgy ahogy annak idején a Csillagok Háborúját is. Máshol ez a szinkron nem is volt megtalálható. "

Itt az eredeti Link a cikhez: http://www.starwarsklub.hu/12_video_dvd/video_dvd_010/sw_klub_dvd_video_010_guild.htm

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#1004616
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Searching German & Hungarian digital TV-Rips of the original 1999 theatrical version of "TPM" and the original 1997 Special Editions of the Trilogy!
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Sorry for not being here for a long time, but I have some problems in my life.

I have to thank for everyone, you all did a great research.

I just have two questions:

Where can I get the German/Austrian ORF1 TVrip of TPM Theatrical Version and is there an older 4:3 (PAN&SCAN) Version of the Hungarioan ROTS, like from the others (I have a Gemany PAN&SCAN on original VHS, yes from 2005)?

I will try to be here regularly from now on, at least once a week or more.

Greetings from your skywalker89 😄

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#731117
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Searching German & Hungarian digital TV-Rips of the original 1999 theatrical version of "TPM" and the original 1997 Special Editions of the Trilogy!
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StarmanSkywalker said:

Next time it airs on ORF HD, I will post the info.

I think in the last time they show a HDTV scan of the DVD-version, which have a different sound-mix, the Taxi-scene in Coruscant and some scenes have different matte paintings where details in the background are a little different. :(

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#730649
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Searching German & Hungarian digital TV-Rips of the original 1999 theatrical version of "TPM" and the original 1997 Special Editions of the Trilogy!
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StarmanSkywalker said:

To my surprise, Austria's ORF aired an HD broadcast of the theatrical cut of TPM in 2012.
I didn't know such a thing would even exist. It certainly doesn't look like an upscale of an SD source to my eyes. I could have sworn they had shown the DVD version previously.

The interesting thing about this Theatrical Cut is that the quality is superior to the 1080p HDTV version, as in white areas show less heavy grain and the color balance seems more accurate (no major pink hue). I recorded it back in the 2012 onto my UPC DVR, unfortunately only from the night before the Podrace onwards and there is no way converting that stupid UPC codec to save it as a proper video on my computer without breaking the box open and causing the warranty to expire (it's only a rental).

Next time it's on I will ask someone to save it for me proper.


I hope someone could get me this version, but remember also the sound mix was different to the other two (DVD & Blu Ray) versions. I also hope it's the cinema sound, either in DD Stereo or 5.1.

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#729321
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Searching German & Hungarian digital TV-Rips of the original 1999 theatrical version of "TPM" and the original 1997 Special Editions of the Trilogy!
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Laserschwert said:

Somehow I have this distinct memory of one of the Jabba subtitles being too wide for this zoomed-in version, so they had to pan across the frame during the subtitles to make them all readable. Or was that on one of the VHS-releases?

 On Sat1 the Jabba subtitles were equal cut of like the ones from Greedo:

http://www.schnittberichte.com/pics/SBs/100/463266/06.jpg

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#729037
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Searching German & Hungarian digital TV-Rips of the original 1999 theatrical version of "TPM" and the original 1997 Special Editions of the Trilogy!
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Topic update:

The same versions, which I'm searching from Pro7, where also broadcasted by the Austrian channel ORF1. This Austrian broadcasts would be better, because they have no commercial breaks and the TV-Logo  is on the Black bar and not in Picture. But "The Phantom Menace" is the most important, because its cinema version and its original DD2.0 stereo-mixed German sound. Also on VHS the German subtitles for the alien languages are put on the black bar, on TV they are the same in-picture subtitles as seen in cinemas.

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#729035
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Searching German & Hungarian digital TV-Rips of the original 1999 theatrical version of "TPM" and the original 1997 Special Editions of the Trilogy!
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csd79 said:

The hungarian crawls are included on the BD set with seamless branching[...].

 Yes, I know, I have them, but I need the originals with 4:3 Pan&Scan picture, but "The Phantom menace" is the most important, because of it's cinema version and original stereo-mixed DD2.0 sound. I have the 1995 and 1997 hungarian VHS versions and Episode 1&2, only Episode3 and the original Trilogy from 1993 are missing in my hungarian VHS collection, I have the Hungarian DVD from Episode3 and downloads from the Hungarian 1993 Versions, but I prefer original cassettes for my collection. But for the old versions of the Prequels and the Special Edition, digital TV-rips would be the same Version as on VHS, just would have a better quality. If you want, we also can talk Hungarian.

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#728914
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Searching German & Hungarian digital TV-Rips of the original 1999 theatrical version of "TPM" and the original 1997 Special Editions of the Trilogy!
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Haarspalter said:

@Laserschwert

I digitized my old 1990 ROTJ Sat.1 VHS recording [...].

@skywalker89

Auf Deutsch unterhalten? Aber gerne doch ;-)

 Hallo!

Ist bei deiner Aufnahme auch die Anmoderation am Anfang (sowie Interviews mit Fans) und die beiden 20th Century Fox und Lucasfilm Logos mit drauf? Die fehlen nämlich bei meiner Aufnahme, bei allen drei Filmen. Auch Teile des Abspanns fehlen. Könntest du deine Kopien, egal in welcher Qualität, auf myspleen hoch laden? Ich würde sie gerne mit meinen Aufnahmen in meinem Projekt kombinieren.

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#728883
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Searching German & Hungarian digital TV-Rips of the original 1999 theatrical version of "TPM" and the original 1997 Special Editions of the Trilogy!
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Laserschwert said:

[...] I need a template for the German DeEd. Or did any of the other German releases have the original optically composed subtitles for the Jabba scenes?

The really original German cinema subtitle are only in that Sat1 broadcast, which was later also shown by Pro7 before the SEs where made. Aber wir können uns auch gerne in deutsch weiter unterhalten. ;)

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#728880
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Searching German & Hungarian digital TV-Rips of the original 1999 theatrical version of "TPM" and the original 1997 Special Editions of the Trilogy!
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I have the 1990 Sat1 Versions, wait for my other project:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/SD-Quality-DVD-reconstruction-of-the-original-theatrical-version-trilogy-in-the-european-PAL-TV-Version-fit-for-16-9-TV-screens/topic/17046/

And yes, I don't mean the original original subtitles, I mean the original 1997 subtitles.

And I need the Hungarian TV-Version because of the 4:3 picture and the hungarian opening crawls from the prequels.

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#728866
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Searching German & Hungarian digital TV-Rips of the original 1999 theatrical version of "TPM" and the original 1997 Special Editions of the Trilogy!
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Hallo!

For long time the German TV-channel Pro7 (ProSieben) has broadcasted the original 1999 theatrical version of "The Phantom Menace", as available on the Widescreen VHS, and the original 1997 Special Edition Trilogy, with better Jabba in "A New Hope" and original Anakin ghost in "Return of the Jedi". Also all movies where broadcasted in 4:3 Letterbox (original Widescreen as on VHS, only in much better Quality), had the original German theatrical subtitles for the alien languages,  and the old German "Krieg der Sterne" opening crawls for the Trilogy. I think these Versions where broadcasted from the beginning of their availability until 2007 or 2008, after that they changed to the DVD-versions. Now I ask the community if anyone has digital records of these older TV-versions in good Quality (DVB-T, DVB-C or DVB-S). I only have bad VHS-Records of them, but need them in good quality for my collection.

In Hungary all six movies where broadcasted by the channel "RTL Klub" in 4:3 Pan&Scan, with original Hungarian subtitles for the alien languages and the Prequels had the original hungarian written opening crawl as in cinema. I also search this versions as digital records in good quality (DVB-T, DVB-C or DVB-S).

Topic update:

The same versions, which I'm searching from Pro7, where also broadcasted by the Austrian channel ORF1. This Austrian broadcasts would be better, because they have no commercial breaks and the TV-Logo  is on the Black bar and not in Picture. But "The Phantom Menace" is the most important, because its cinema version and its original DD2.0 stereo-mixed German sound. Also on VHS the German subtitles for the alien languages are put on the black bar, on TV they are the same in-picture subtitles as seen in cinemas.

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#728829
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What is the best Fan preservation of the Original Star Wars available?
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Erik Pancakes said:

PAL would play at the wrong speed...

For me NTSC is the wrong speed, because in cinema it has originally 24FPS, and the 25FPS from PAL are more close to it, than the 29,97FPS from NTSC, also PAL has a bigger resolution from 720x576, but NTSC just 720x480. Also PAL uses a better Color-System than NTSC.

Wikipedia says: "[...] PAL usually has 576 visible lines compared with 480 lines with NTSC, meaning that PAL has a 20% higher resolution. [...] PAL has a closer frame rate to that of film and is less likely to suffer from issues caused during frame rate conversion. [...] NTSC receivers have a tint control to perform colour correction manually. If this is not adjusted correctly, the colours may be faulty. The PAL standard automatically cancels hue errors by phase reversal, so a tint control is unnecessary. Chrominance phase errors in the PAL system are cancelled out using a 1H delay line resulting in lower saturation, which is much less noticeable to the eye than NTSC hue errors. [...]"

But maybe it's just because I'm from Europe and you have to slow down any European language audio to fit to NTSC. Maybe you can give me a reason why NTSC is better, but I don't think so.

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#727514
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SD-Quality/DVD reconstruction of the original theatrical version trilogy in the european PAL TV-Version fit for 16:9 TV-screens
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Hi!

I want to do a reconstruction of the original theatrical version of the old trilogy, for those how doesn't need HD. And even more: I reconstruct a rare TV-Version, which was (like the most TV-broadcast of cinema-movies) zoomed from the original 2,35:1 aspect to 1,78:1 aspect, which fits the modern 16:9 TV-screen.

I'm using an old Video2000-Tape record from the German TV-Premier from 1990, from the channel Sat1, and a rare Bootleg-VHS-Transfer of some original 35mm-films from british cinemas, made on the late 1980s. Both PAL (and have the same 1,78:1 aspect) and the DVD will also be PAL but real 16:9 picture. For help and quality-upgrade I use the official PAL GOUT DVDs and for some color-correction Harmy's HD version.

If anyone wants to join and have advices, please write me. I'm working on an apple iMac and for DVD-editing I use "DVD Studio Pro", but I'm not very good at it. If anyone could tell me, how to make it perfect, it would be nice. For Video-Editing I don't know if I should use Final Cut or Adobe Premier. I know Final Cut, but not 100%, and I'm jut beginning to learn Adobe Premiere.

It also would be great if someone could tell me how I make a perfect digital transfer of my Video2000 Tape, because I'm not happy with the Quality I'm getting out of it (remember: I just need SD-Quality for PAL DVD, but without blurry parts).

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#682225
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Searching Original Trilogy Hungarian Bootleg Narration Voice (for sound preservation, editing to the GOUT DVDs)
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none said:

Believe this is more: (think the above link also sourced from this youtube user below, according to the dates)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFU9YbqnNZw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1begToGEbHk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXJAjs8F-Hk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIGsBskzICE

[...]

But it's good to have a defined place where people who are seeking out this one specific one can congregate.  Hope you have better luck finding the other movies!

 Thanks!

Yes I already have Jedi downloaded from ulozto a Czech side. But I have contacts, also I'm German, maybe I could get an original copy of the homemade Tapes from Hungarian fleemarkets, but it takes some month. But maybe someone can put them online earlier, so I could download it and didn't have to search on fleemarkets.

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#681929
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Searching Original Trilogy Hungarian Bootleg Narration Voice (for sound preservation, editing to the GOUT DVDs)
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Hi!

Since Video-Recorder were available in eastern Europe, they made fake dubbings, where one guy or girl spoke all voices in a kind of a voice-over, while you could hear the original sound/voice or the german dubbing.

In Hungary most of them where university teachers, because they must have the ability to translate it by themselves. Most of them made it for fun, to be the first in the country watching the best movies, some did it for the money.

Such a "Bootleg Dubbing" was made in Hungary to the first or second UK VHS-Edition of the Trilogy in late 80s, three official proffesional dubbings to each of them where made 1993,1995, 1997. The '97 Version is also find on the Blu Ray.

On Internet only a VHS-rip of "Return of the Jedi" is available in this "Hungarian Narrator"-Version, now I search the other two, to edit this funny bootleg dubbing to the official GOUT DVDs.

I also search a "Hungarian Narrator"-Version of "Ewoks: Caravan of Courage", because there never existed an official dubbing to it, only to "Ewoks: The Battle for Endor" exists an official dubbing.

Here is an extract from Jedi:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LwDHmcH6KU

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#674365
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Star Wars Trilogy 1997 Special Edition DVDs?
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skywalker89 said:

I have a DVD-Transfer of the 1997 German Laserdiscs of all three movies, in great quality with original German cinema crawl and subtitles, but without German sound, only a low quality English sound and better Hungarian sound, both in Dolby Stereo.

I checked my DVDs, which I mentioned in September,  they are better than laserdisc, must be some digital Pay-TV-record from about 2002-2004, only the sound is crap.

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