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#1078738
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Star Wars Insider celebrates the 40th anniversary with...
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I do think it’s very interesting they acknowledge the SE’s were not only sources of debate, but also brought into question “the definition of authorship and the privileges of ownership”. That’s a big statement to be coming from them, isn’t it? Admitting that there are some ethical questions behind the changes?

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#1074505
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Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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Mocata said:

lovelikewinter said:

James Cameron is a douche who only gets away with it because most of his movies turn out decent. Good luck on people caring about the 5 million Avatar sequels.

James Cameron hasn’t made a classic movie since 1991. But they are some of the best movies ever so it’s hard to complain. He is a douche though hahahah.

Sorry, I know this is a late reply and off topic, but this statement is ridiculous. Titanic, anyone?

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#1074472
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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rpvee said:

I agree with those who have said the letter should focus less on the impact the films had on viewers during their original runs, and more on the legacy of the films themselves. Those award winning elements, such as the sound and visual effects, have been tampered with or erased. Crucial parts of American cinematic history have been replaced with more modern technologies with no acknowledgement of what came before (not to mention, I saw a great post somewhere that pointed out how the CGI used to replace the practical effects has dated far worse than the original effects did). And I do think citing Lucas’ words about preserving films is important here.

How about something like this? Rough, but at least an idea…

"Dear Lucasfilm and Disney,

In March, 1988, a visionary film director stood before the United States Congress with a plea. This man had overseen the creation of a series of films that in just five short years, had become legendary installments in American cinematic history. He had seen his vision fulfilled, had made his fortune, and could have used his influence in many ways, yet he chose to use that power before Congress to speak on the importance of preserving the history his own trilogy had become a part of.

“Today, engineers with their computers can add color to black-and-white movies, change the soundtrack, speed up the pace, and add or subtract material to the philosophical tastes of the copyright holder,” this director claimed. “It will soon be possible to create a new ‘original’ negative with whatever changes or alterations the copyright holder of the moment desires. The copyright holders, so far, have not been completely diligent in preserving the original negatives of films they control.” His name was George Lucas, and his own contribution to the legacy of American cinema was known as the Star Wars trilogy.

Despite Lucas’ words, that legendary trilogy has indeed been altered in our own modern day, with the original versions of those films unavailable for purchase, and unrecognized by the very studio that produced them. Digital effects from the late 1990’s, that grow weaker in appearance with every passing year, have replaced the Academy Award winning practical effects that thrilled audiences worldwide from 1977 to 1983 (and still could today). The experiences that were had in theaters during those original theatrical releases inspired generations of people, sparked the imaginations of children who would go on to become today’s great filmmakers, and provided a true sense of wonder and escapism from whatever troubles plagued those who sought refuge for a couple glorious hours in a galaxy far, far away.

We fans of the original, unaltered Star Wars trilogy (affectionately called the “OUT” for short) do not expect, or necessarily want, the digitally enhanced “Special Edition” versions of the trilogy to be removed from official canon, as the ever expanding Star Wars universe depends on elements found in those versions, and vice-versa. What we do want, however, is for the “OUT” to receive a proper and thorough restoration to the highest standards possible with today’s technology. Furthermore, we would like this restoration to be released to honor such important entries in the great chronology of developments in American cinema, and to rekindle the tremendous amounts of nostalgia that would come with such a release for so many who would gladly purchase it.

To forever pretend that the only available versions of the Star Wars trilogy are the only worthy representations of the films’ contributions to film making history, with their digital enhancements, is a true injustice to the groundbreaking innovations made in 1977, 1980, and 1983. We hope that you realize this, and right this creative wrong by acknowledging and honoring these legendary parts of American culture.

Thank you, and with much respect,

The members of OriginalTrilogy.com, and Star Wars fans worldwide"

Thoughts?

Anyone? 😕

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#1074118
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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Possessed said:

Maybe something about the work of the original motion control pioneers deserving to be seen and to not have their revolutionary accomplishments be buried.

I think my draft a couple posts above generally captured that need - the need to preserve such technological and creative innovations. 😃

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#1074112
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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I agree with those who have said the letter should focus less on the impact the films had on viewers during their original runs, and more on the legacy of the films themselves. Those award winning elements, such as the sound and visual effects, have been tampered with or erased. Crucial parts of American cinematic history have been replaced with more modern technologies with no acknowledgement of what came before (not to mention, I saw a great post somewhere that pointed out how the CGI used to replace the practical effects has dated far worse than the original effects did). And I do think citing Lucas’ words about preserving films is important here.

How about something like this? Rough, but at least an idea…

"Dear Lucasfilm and Disney,

In March, 1988, a visionary film director stood before the United States Congress with a plea. This man had overseen the creation of a series of films that in just five short years, had become legendary installments in American cinematic history. He had seen his vision fulfilled, had made his fortune, and could have used his influence in many ways, yet he chose to use that power before Congress to speak on the importance of preserving the history his own trilogy had become a part of.

“Today, engineers with their computers can add color to black-and-white movies, change the soundtrack, speed up the pace, and add or subtract material to the philosophical tastes of the copyright holder,” this director claimed. “It will soon be possible to create a new ‘original’ negative with whatever changes or alterations the copyright holder of the moment desires. The copyright holders, so far, have not been completely diligent in preserving the original negatives of films they control.” His name was George Lucas, and his own contribution to the legacy of American cinema was known as the Star Wars trilogy.

Despite Lucas’ words, that legendary trilogy has indeed been altered in our own modern day, with the original versions of those films unavailable for purchase, and unrecognized by the very studio that produced them. Digital effects from the late 1990’s, that grow weaker in appearance with every passing year, have replaced the Academy Award winning practical effects that thrilled audiences worldwide from 1977 to 1983 (and still could today). The experiences that were had in theaters during those original theatrical releases inspired generations of people, sparked the imaginations of children who would go on to become today’s great filmmakers, and provided a true sense of wonder and escapism from whatever troubles plagued those who sought refuge for a couple glorious hours in a galaxy far, far away.

We fans of the original, unaltered Star Wars trilogy (affectionately called the “OUT” for short) do not expect, or necessarily want, the digitally enhanced “Special Edition” versions of the trilogy to be removed from official canon, as the ever expanding Star Wars universe depends on elements found in those versions, and vice-versa. What we do want, however, is for the “OUT” to receive a proper and thorough restoration to the highest standards possible with today’s technology. Furthermore, we would like this restoration to be released to honor such important entries in the great chronology of developments in American cinema, and to rekindle the tremendous amounts of nostalgia that would come with such a release for so many who would gladly purchase it.

To forever pretend that the only available versions of the Star Wars trilogy are the only worthy representations of the films’ contributions to film making history, with their digital enhancements, is a true injustice to the groundbreaking innovations made in 1977, 1980, and 1983. We hope that you realize this, and right this creative wrong by acknowledging and honoring these legendary parts of American culture.

Thank you, and with much respect,

The members of OriginalTrilogy.com, and Star Wars fans worldwide"

Thoughts?

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#1065988
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Episode VIII Discussion *SPOILER THREAD*
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oojason said:

anyone figured what the whispers are in the trailer - if you listen carefully you can hear these whispers - but I can’t make them out…

I believe it’s Leia’s message to Obi-Wan from ANH when we see her from the back, Obi-Wan talking about the Dark Side corrupting from ANH when we see Kylo’s helmet, and the last whisper is Yoda from ESB talking about the Force surrounding.

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#1065536
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Celebration 2017 Speculation
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rpvee said:

As for the Celebration surprise(s), someone mentioned earlier the possibility of it being a Lucas appearance. That would be fitting, and I don’t think anyone said the surprise would be any kind of announcement. If anything, the big surprise being merchandise of any kind, including a new home media release, would probably get an underwhelming “making the fans buy the same movies again” response, OOT or not. That doesn’t sound like a fitting enough surprise for such a huge panel.

Just gonna quote myself here, before everyone gets all disappointed that an unrealistic announcement wasn’t announced.

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#1065365
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Celebration 2017 Speculation
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Not to add fuel to the fire, but…

I think it’s been mentioned here that the “Saga” Blu-Ray sets have been mysteriously dropping in price the past week or so, but to add to that, the digital versions on iTunes also had a very rare drop in price just today, the day of the panel. Like, just a few hours ago. The last major price drop was iTunes’ big end-of-year sale in December, and nothing really before that. Why would they discount the films on the exact day of the panel if there wasn’t something related to home media whatsoever? It’s not like most iTunes shoppers would know about the convention and connection otherwise…

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#1062664
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Celebration 2017 Speculation
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I’d love a series about the fall of Ben Solo, it’d definitely be more dramatic than a book about it.

As for the Celebration surprise(s), someone mentioned earlier the possibility of it being a Lucas appearance. That would be fitting, and I don’t think anyone said the surprise would be any kind of announcement. If anything, the big surprise being merchandise of any kind, including a new home media release, would probably get an underwhelming “making the fans buy the same movies again” response, OOT or not. That doesn’t sound like a fitting enough surprise for such a huge panel.

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#1062217
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Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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Interesting thing about the bonus features – in text descriptions, they seemed like short fluff pieces, but watching them all together, it seems they’re actually all one big making-of documentary split into pieces. There are even credits at the end of the last one, as if they’re all meant to be watched in order, and they even transition well into each other. So, we did get a big making-of documentary (even if it doesn’t go into much depth), it’s just split up into smaller bonus features, meant to be watched all together in sequence.

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Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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Tyrphanax said:

I just wanna pop in to make the prediction that the last scene of the movie is just a shot of the back of Vader standing on the bridge of his Star Destroyer as it chases the Tantive IV over Tatooine and then smash to black.

Or perhaps as he’s about to board the Tantive itself, right before his iconic original entrance? Cut to black right at the sound of the door sliding open.

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#957145
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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Really cool concepts here! My only concerns are:

-the destruction of Hosnian right after Han’s death leaves Kylo, Rey, Finn, Chewie, and a stormtrooper all just standing there in shock for a lot longer than they originally were. It feels weird for Chewie to take so long to do something.

-Chewie blowing up the room right after SKB destroys the system made me think “you couldn’t have pressed that button a couple minutes ago?”. He could’ve prevented the whole thing, even if he was distracted by the situation on the bridge.

-the dogfight happens relatively close to the laser cannon. Assuming it just fired really close to the ships, you’d think Poe and company would either get the hell out of there, or at least say something about the planet-destroying lasers they just saw right in front of them.

-minor, but in the spliced together Snoke scene, he’s sitting one moment, and then standing the next.

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#930681
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OT Special Editions to have USA Roadshow Summer '16
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Guys, I saw this a couple weeks ago before I even made this thread, and for some reason one key fact of it completely slipped my mind: there’s a trilogy screening in September in upstate New York, and they specifically state they’re showing the films in 35 mm.

http://www.ticketfly.com/purchase/mobile/index/1125951?utm_source=starwars

This is separate from the roadshow, but it does prove that Lucasfilm has film prints to distribute. Not sure why it didn’t occur to me to post this earlier, but there it is!

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