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#1060668
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Droids Series Complete Set. Reconstruction from multiple sources. UPDATE: Version 1.0 is out!
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LexX said:

What kind of set can we expect? Do you use multiple audio options? I have Finnish dubs that were made for TV, would be cool to have them used. Although they only exist in my tapes which are a little incomplete, too…

I would be totally cool with all that. But when it comes time to actually make the DVD set (again, could be years) I would likely need to ask for community help in accumulating the audio tracks as well as syncing them to the Japanese video.

Each region appears to have slightly different editing around the commercial breaks, slight speed increases/decreases, and other little random things that will require somebody to actually edit the audio for each language. As in pull up Premiere, Vegas, Final Cut Pro, etc and go through the video scene by scene and cut the audio as needed.

Not sure if I could do them all myself. I would likely just come up with a baseline video with English audio for everyone else to sync their audio to and send it out to people working on each language. Then each person edits together an audio track in whatever language they want that perfectly syncs up with the baseline video. Then everyone send me (or whoever is authoring the DVD) their audio files only.

Then whoever is authoring the DVD could simply combine all of the separate elements together for the final DVD.

Would likely be easiest way.

The languages that I am aware of for Droids are:

  • English
  • Spanish (Apparently there are Castilian and Latin American variations of these, aka Spain vs Mexico)
  • Japanese
  • French
  • German
  • Finnish

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#1060486
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Droids Series Complete Set. Reconstruction from multiple sources. UPDATE: Version 1.0 is out!
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So it has been years since the last update. This was because I haven’t been able to obtain any new sources. But after years and years I finally got a NTSC retail copy of the Great Heep.

Took forever for this thing to surface.

I now have all of the Japanese tapes.

Only thing left is tracking down that stupid Mexican Droids 3 tape. Once I get that we can do a proper DVD/BluRay/whatever set.



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#1056490
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"The Ewoks Project" DVD set (All discs now on myspleen)
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Kitreena said:
So in the retail VHS version, they had to save on tape space, and so they just faded out the audio track. I miss that original touch!!!

Yeah, they did this too with the UK VHS release of Droids. Around the commercial breaks they would trim a second or two off the fade-aways to tighten it up. I had to use the Japanese audio for those parts in my Droids set.

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#714655
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Any OT.com members in Mexico willing to help obtain a tape?
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There is a Star Wars video on a popular Mexican auction/trading site that I would like to obtain but the language barrier and odd payment methods are getting in the way. Cost is low, should stay down around the $20 US range.

This video is pretty important in regards to a preservation that we are doing so any help would be amazing.

Hope somebody can help!

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#670806
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Droids Series Complete Set. Reconstruction from multiple sources. UPDATE: Version 1.0 is out!
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Reegar said:

Is this series watchable for an adult who never encountered it as a child? I mean, I'll watch the old TMNT series from the late 80's-early 90's, but it's great for reasons rooted in nostalgia. I don't know if I could sit down and get into it otherwise.

Meh.

It is interesting to watch for historical purposes.  And to check out the production design, vehicles, and character designs. The plot is somewhat interesting.  Especially the first 4 episodes.

But the screenplay is very Saturday Morning-ish. The dialog can really dial up the corny to 11.  Especially the C3P0 slapstick.

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#659425
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OBITUARY - Star Wars Fullscreen/Pan and Scan versions. R.I.P.
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pittrek said:

What, don't tell me this was the first time you fixed a VHS :-)

I remember back in the day we used to copy hard to find rental tapes and then swap the physical tape from the copy to the rental cassette so we could keep the hard to find, rental only, tape.  Used to look at this as liberating them from the rental store.  Nobody ever checked to see if the little stickers were cut.

I suppose I am not an honorable man :)

No way I would do something like that nowadays. But anywho, we cracked open a few of these guys back in the day and performed surgery.

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#652844
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Droids and Ewoks, anybody ?
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pittrek said:

Wow ! Meesa wan it :-)

It looks REALLY great! I am planning to do a better version of Ewoks, and your source would be a great help!

BTW, I do have a copy of Ewoks tape 4 from Mexico.  It has these season 2 episodes in NTSC with un-blended frames...

1 "The Crystal Cloak"
2 "The Wish Plant"
6 "The Totem Master"
7 "A Gift for Shodu"
16 "Horville's Hut of Horrors"
17 "The Tragic Flute"
18 "Just My Luck"
19 "Bringing Up Norky"

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#652775
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Droids and Ewoks, anybody ?
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sennaheu said:

Video Collector said:

There isn't really a better source for the Ewoks series than the PAL tapes, is there?

There is! At least for episode 2 to 13 from series one. Here is a screenshot of my version of episode 1x11 The Three Lessons. It comes directly from a TV station that broadcasted it (PAL) so it is no VHS transfer with its disadvantages:

The Three Lessons

 

Interesting...

There is no frame blending on that tape?  Have you run it through frame by frame?

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#635176
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DROIDS PAL VHS Preservation 4-DVD set
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drngr said:

Video Collector said:

Note that the PALs also look horizontally squeezed compared to the NTSC versions, something we saw on the Ewoks tapes as well.

That's only because PAL DVD stores images at 1.25:1 (NTSC stores them at 1.5:1 so "raw" screenshots of NTSC fullscreen DVDs are stretched instead of squeezed).

I didn't crop off all of the black padding but this approximates how your DVD would look on a TV: http://check2pic.ru/compare/28601/

Probably a combination of that and the mp4 files are only 640 horizontal.  All the raw AVI's I worked with are 720, and whenever I get a DVD set together I'll leave them at 720.

We did a couple of experiments around here with a 720x480 MP4 and somebody had issues with their software recognizing the ratio flags.  So I figured 640x480 would probably be easiest to disseminate.

MP4 file

My 720x480 processed AVI

 

VideoCollectors capture

 

I would say that the downconversion to 640x480 took a little more detail out of the video than I would have liked.  But I think it is still doable to keep the file size down and to make them as universally playable as possible.

In the end though, Video Collector's PAL capture still has a little bit of an edge on this video.  Maybe something to do with having a PAL native VCR, as opposed to my Universal VCR.

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#634935
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DROIDS PAL VHS Preservation 4-DVD set
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Video Collector said:

retartedted said:

Yeah, the Great Heep got a little bit more than the rest, as well as more color adjustments to look more like the rest of the NTSC episodes.  But to be honest, I really didn't apply all that much.  I think that your particular deck just has some really good sharpening capabilities. 

There is no doubt that there is more detail in the PAL tapes.  It really is a shame about the blended NTSC->PAL conversion. 

OMG, I've been referring to you as Retarded Ted when that's not what your nick is! No insult intended. I really thought that was your nick. Sorry.

Haha, that is my username.  Retarded is spelled wrong, to make it look goofy and match Ted.  I thought it was hilarious back in the early 2000's when I was playing CounterStrike, Unreal and all that stuff.  Now it kind of makes me cringe when I think about it too much.

I use a different username everywhere else but this account at OT.com (and Myspleen for that matter) are older than dirt and still have my old username.   I wish I could change it at both locations to something that isn't so immature.

Oh well.

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#634917
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DROIDS PAL VHS Preservation 4-DVD set
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Yeah, the Great Heep got a little bit more than the rest, as well as more color adjustments to look more like the rest of the NTSC episodes.  But to be honest, I really didn't apply all that much.  I think that your particular deck just has some really good sharpening capabilities. 

There is no doubt that there is more detail in the PAL tapes.  It really is a shame about the blended NTSC->PAL conversion. 

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#632319
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Droids Series Complete Set. Reconstruction from multiple sources. UPDATE: Version 1.0 is out!
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Video Collector said:

I'd love to hear some specifics about the work you did. What were the sources for each episode, and what processes did you employ for clean-up etc. What did you use for The Great Heep in the end?

  • Episodes 1-8, 10-13 video is sourced exclusively from the Japanese tapes.  The audio is primarily the UK PAL tapes, with occasional snippets from the SciFi airings and Japanese tapes for audio that was cut from the UK tapes.  Mostly around commercial breaks.
  • Episode 9 is obviously a home video recording of the original ABC airing.
  • Great Heep is from the UK PAL tape.  I used SRestore for the scenes that were animated on 2's and a regular deinterlace for scenes animated on 1's.  Pain in the ass if you ask me.  Then it was just a simple 25fps->23.976fps conversion by slowing down.
  • Each episode follows the lineage that I posted in my first comment in this thread.  JVC S-VHS deck-> Hauppauge capture card-> raw avi-> Avisynth (animeivtc) and then into Virtualdub where I did very very slight level and color adjustments. And very minimal noise reduction.  Hardly any really.
  • Regarding a DVD release, I don't plan on doing one until I can get some better sources for Coby and Heep.  Hopefully that is within the next couple of years.  Those tapes aren't getting any younger.  Would really love it if some of those people trying to track down the tapes would give me a chance to get a crack at them.  I feel like I should have never mentioned their existence because now people are talking about the Mexican tapes all over the place.  There is even a blurb about them now on the Star Wars wikia page for Droids.

 

darth_ender said:

So to be clear for the slower readers (me, myself, and I), each episode is complete, unlike the DVD releases?  I know you had sources you didn't prefer as much, but these episodes lack nothing, correct?

Yes, every episode as they originally aired.  Minus the recaps (mentioned just a few posts above) as those haven't been released on any commercial tape that I am aware of.  The only copies are from television airings to include the SciFi channel ones.

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#632245
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Droids Series Complete Set. Reconstruction from multiple sources. UPDATE: Version 1.0 is out!
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darth_ender said:

Which episode?  What kind of error?  Considering you released all the episodes as individual mp4s it seems you could just upload the corrected episode. :)

I'll refrain from pointing it out, as to not ruin it for everyone else.  Once you notice those things one tends to fixate on it. :)

And I don't think that I will do one upload for just one tiny error.  I'll watch through them a couple of more times and make a list.  And I am sure over time people will come forward with a few things here and there as they get through the series as well.

JJJ_Spirit_Of_77 said:

One question: Some of the continuing story-arc episodes had a short narrative recap of the previous ep at the beginning. These recaps aren't on version 1.0. Will they be restored in the finished version?

I have toyed around with it a little and have been thinking about it for when I get around to a full DVD release with bumpers and other assorted clips.  The main problem with the recaps is that they don't exist on any of the commercially released tapes.  So they would have to be recreated.

 

 

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