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#577350
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Babylon 5 - Broadcast NTSC (4:3)? (Released)
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Downloaded and it looks very good indeed! The colours do look a bit muted, but I've never seen the LDs so I've no idea if it's to do with the capture or the source material. There's a bit of video noise at the top of the frame which could do with being masked, if possible.

Other than that I couldn't see anything wrong with the capture or the encoding. It's B5 in the right aspect ratio and running at the right speed, so it's already a million times better than the official releases. Well done! Looking forward to the rest of this project!

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#577066
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Babylon 5 - Broadcast NTSC (4:3)? (Released)
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DisgruntledFan said:

Okay.

I've put a sample up on 'spleen. Would appreciate some technical feedback before I launch into the rest of the project.

Basically size is 4.7 gigs per episode with the PCM soundtrack ripped directly from the LD. I've stuck some color bars I pulled from Video essentials at the end of the episode.

 

Grabbing now, I'll be sure to post feedback here as soon as I've had a chance to check it out.

Really looking forward to this! Thanks!

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#544628
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Babylon 5 - Broadcast NTSC (4:3)? (Released)
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Asaki said:

maff said:

Unless someone knows how to do a rip from Netflix...

 I'm getting pretty confused here, now. I keep asking why it can't just be captured via 360-->capture card, and everyone keeps ignoring it and going on about how "There MUST be a way!" as if I had asked the most ridiculous question in the world...

I'm assuming that a) ripping a Netflix stream would give better results than simply recording one, and b) Netflix must implement some kind of technology to prevent recording streaming video. Then again, I'm in the UK and we don't get Netflix.

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#544618
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Babylon 5 - Broadcast NTSC (4:3)? (Released)
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DisgruntledFan said:

Asaki said:

Surely some of the more able members here could cook up an un-interlace/re-interlace AVIsynth script to replicate what this guy did?

http://www.modeemi.fi/~leopold/Babylon5/DVD/DVDTransfer.html#030421proof

It's nothing that challenging - the effects are just 30p. 

The real problem is that the live action is 24p, while the effects are 30p. This makes it difficult to produce a progressive video stream because the frame rate would need to vary shot to shot. 

I think this is possible in an MKV container, but I think you'd end having to put it together on a command line. 

 

The DVDs are a non-starter. The widescreen versions of the show were done on the cheap. Widescreen footage was spliced in where possible, everything else (CGI, composites, and live footage starting or ending with crossfades) is just 4:3 footage blown up and cropped. No script is going to fix that.

I've tried one of the episodes on iTunes, and the quality was shockingly awful. Unless someone knows how to do a rip from Netflix, the laser discs are probably the only option. 

You'll also want to avoid any PAL sources. B5 in PAL has always suffered from horrendous audio speed up issues that were not present when the show was originally transmitted outside the USA. No idea why. First time I bought one of the VHS tapes everyone sounded like they had a mouthful of helium, and the PAL DVD's are only marginally better. Not sure if there ever were PAL Laserdiscs of B5, but if so they probably have the same problem.

I'm really looking forward to seeing what you come up with.

 

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#493709
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Babylon 5 - Broadcast NTSC (4:3)? (Released)
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Some ruminations from a fellow fan. B5 on DVD is really quite heartbreaking. The cropped CGI, mastering errors and flecktastic prints are well known issues, but the biggest problem for me is that when it came time to create the widescreen versions, they simply cheated.

The original episodes were finished for broadcast in 4:3 ratio. To create proper widescreen versions they would have to go back in and re-edit the shows to rebuild them from scratch. But if you watch the DVDs long enough you'll realise that they simply took the 4:3 versions, blew them up and cropped them, and then dropped in widescreen footage where ever possible. 

Here's an example. Grab the Season 2 box set and fire up the episode The Coming of Shadows. Skip forward to the start of the third act (I think). It's the scene with G'Kar in his quarters with Dr. Franklin. The act opens with a CGI flyby of the station, and then cross fades to the live action, which should be in widescreen but isn't because the cross-fade means there's no way for the editor to splice the widescreen footage in. It's not until the next hard cut two minutes later when actual widescreen footage appears. The blown up and cropped 4:3 footage looks atrocious, and this problem happens in virtually every episode.

There's another spot where the effect is quite obvious. Find the scene in the same episode where the Emperor comes on board, and the scene cuts from him to the B5 crew standing in line. Freeze frame through the cut and you can see where the widescreen footage is spliced in a few frames too late. 

The S2 box set is easily the worst. S3-5 improve a little bit, but on the whole the entire thing is a disaster. Most TV shows are stuck in standard definition where BR discs will never exist, but B5 is forever trapped in sub-DVD quality. And all of this so we can now see a pot plant in the corner of Sheridan's office.