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#1160403
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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The more listen to TLJ reviews that aren’t 15-minutes rants about how “they ruined muh Luke” and “Holdo’s plan and Canto Bight ruined the entire movie”, I’ve realized that this movie’s flaws aren’t as big as they were originally hyped to be. I appreciate this entire film, and all that it contains, even the Canto Bight sequence.

Same with Frink, I won’t be watching TLJ edits any time soon, even once I own the movies and the DVDs have come out. Every time I watch a fan edit I no longer appreciate a film in its original form, so I’m not even going to watch any edit of this film. Would a very light fan edit drastically improve the movie? Yes, totally, but I like this movie too much to let it be ruined for me

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#1160398
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The Last Jedi: The De-Feminized Fanedit
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DominicCobb said:

liamnotneeson said:

DominicCobb said:

MalàStrana said:

GylesReynek said:
People that do stuff like make a de-feminized version of Star Wars are the exact type of people the Rebels are fighting against. This dude is Hux IRL.

Ridiculous statement.

But sadly true

I don’t remember the Resistance fighting against muh misogynists last time I watched any of the Star Wars movies, and I don’t remember Hux saying anything about women. Correct me if I’m wrong

You’re not wrong, but you are missing the point.

So you’re assuming that the antagonists in a fictional story would be the kind of people to have a prejudice against women?

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#1160394
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The Last Jedi: The De-Feminized Fanedit
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DominicCobb said:

MalàStrana said:

GylesReynek said:
People that do stuff like make a de-feminized version of Star Wars are the exact type of people the Rebels are fighting against. This dude is Hux IRL.

Ridiculous statement.

But sadly true

I don’t remember the Resistance fighting against muh misogynists last time I watched any of the Star Wars movies, and I don’t remember Hux saying anything about women. Correct me if I’m wrong

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#1160390
Topic
The Last Jedi: The De-Feminized Fanedit
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I plan on watching it, because I find the idea humorous and enjoy fanedits. I think that getting outraged about this and taking it seriously is empowering the guy who made it, because I know that the person who made it, while talking about it, never indicated anything about it being “ironic” or “a parody”

If you don’t like it, just don’t talk about it and don’t watch it

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#1158530
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The Jedi Council not existing, or being total d*cks?
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Mrebo said:

Perhaps we don’t see the Council much, or at all. We can hear about it and the dictates it hands down and see how various Jedi react.

I don’t fee like that would work well in a series

In some religions there are cloistered orders (like nuns who live in convents and monks who live in monasteries) and there are those who choose to live non-cloistered lives (a nun can live on her own like any other person, except she’s a nun). Yoda could be the head of his [monastery]. And we could see various other Jedi without specifying how they live. The Jedi [pope]/Council could be constitute an adversary, many Jedi feeling compelled to follow what the Council says even if they disagree and we can see the disagreements and see what Jedis rebel.

Obi-Wan was trained by Yoda in the OT, and while it technically makes sense, I don’t think that’s what GL meant in the OT

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#1158201
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The Jedi Council not existing, or being total d*cks?
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I’m a little torn on my rewrite of the prequels. I think Yoda wouldn’t be about that bureaucracy stuff, so he wouldn’t be in the council, and neither would Mace in my rewrite. I want to portray the Jedi Council as a real adversary in TPM but learn their lesson, accept more people in AOTC, but go back to their old way when asking Anakin to spy on Palpatine.

However, I don’t want to make the Jedi out to be corrupt- I want to make the Jedi great and the Council a disgrace to what the Jedi should be, but would that be as close to how they were portrayed in the OT? The OT made it seem like the Jedi weren’t very organized, and it was a person-to-person thing.

What say y’all? I could really go either way. My rewrites tend to try to improve the stories themselves and not make them into totally different movies

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#1158180
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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TV’s Frink said:

Third watch today. Wife insisted. I had a ridiculous lunch of Chicken strips, fries, and a grasshopper milkshake. Felt like a kid again for a few hours.

Still really, really good. 3rd best or 4th best SW movie. Yeah there’s little issues here and there but it’s a movie, to paraphrase Joel, and we all should really just relax.

8.72ish/10

Wtf I agree with Frink

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#1157181
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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Sougouk said:

Damn. I accidentally clicked the Post button, instead of the next page button.

I wonder what JJ Abrams is going to do for the 3rd movie. I hope we see more of R2D2 & Chewbacca.

Apparently JJ has said he wants to bring all three trilogies together. I hope that’s true, because even if X does come out I’m going to deny its existence and IX will be my last episode. Plus, I hope to see more prequels since we haven’t gotten more than a few references in a line or two in each movie so far

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#1156867
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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Valheru_84 said:

Mrebo said:

Just to note, Val, the actress is Vietnamese.

Ah k, my mistake. I was under the impression she was Chinese.

Either way, an attempt to appeal to Asian audiences was definitely a factor in casting her, which I don’t have a problem with. Say what you want about the character and the subplot but Kelly Marie Tran did a very good job in her portrayal of Rose

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#1156866
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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dahmage said:

Again, either enjoy the film, or don’t. but these nitpicks shouldn’t sway you one way or another.

The biggest problem plaguing movie reviewing nowadays, especially just people making reviews on YouTube, is that people get WAAAYY too caught up in the details and the nitpicks. The mindset is growing, that a film can’t be good unless every little plot detail is explained, and everything obeys the laws of physics and science and what not. People are slowly being unable to put aside things like that just to have a good time watching a movie

Hardcore Legend said:

TV’s Frink said:

I play Galaxy of Heroes, and naturally they are adding new TLJ characters to the game. Rose is apparently coming soon, and people are pissed if the official forum is any guide. People are actually saying she’s worse than Jar Jar.

smh

I’ve been critical of this film but I actually liked the subplot of her and Finn (even if it wasn’t really necessary).

People are weird.

People saying that Rose is worse than Jar Jar are letting their (already misplaced) hatred get the better of them. I find it hard to believe that someone who genuinely hates Jar Jar thinks that Rose is worse than her. Rose wasn’t even a bad character, she was just involved in a slightly unnecessary subplot and said a few dumb things, not unlike every main Star Wars character at some point

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#1155070
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Han - Solo Movie ** Spoilers **
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SilverWook said:

ZkinandBonez said:

Tobar said:

Someone was able to get the character names off those Lego sets.

Han Solo (Imperial Disquise) & Tobias Beckett (Imperial Disquise)

This could end up being a funny little nod to ANH. Was it ever established who’s idea it was to disguise themselves as stormtroopers? I always got the idea that it was Han’s idea.

Also, wasn’t Rey originally supposed to be called Kira? I guess Qi-Ra (Emilia Clarke’s character) is meant to be a nod to that.

Is Han’s short career as an Imperial officer is still canon?

Nope, all of the EU is gone

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#1152061
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SW EP 1: Shadow of the Sith - by L8wrtr (Released)
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LordPlagueis said:

After watching The Phantom Edit, The Cloak of Deception, The Balance of the Force, and the Anti-Cheese Edit, I would say this is my favorite edit of the Phantom Menace.

Nevertheless, I have a few suggestions for L8wrtr if he ever decides to create a second edition of this edit or for any future editor who chooses to base a fan edit on this material.

  1. Revise Opening Crawl

The Shadow of the Sith opening crawl is an improvement, but the text is long, and there should be three paragraphs rather than four.

A thousand years have passed since the Knights of the Jedi Order all but vanquished their ancient foes, the evil Sith Lords. Now, after generations
of peace, a menace lurks in the shadows of the galaxy.
The greedy TRADE FEDERATION has surrounded the lush planet of Naboo with a fleet of deadly warships, hoping to seize its vast natural resources.
With the newly crowned Queen desperate for help, the Supreme Chancellor has secretly dispatched two Jedi to settle the conflict…

  1. Cut the sequence where TC-14 informs the Neimoidians the ambassadors are Jedi Knights and then serves drinks to Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan.

  2. Cut the hologram of Nute Gunray commanding the battle droids to destroy what’s left of the Jedi.

  3. Restore Obi-Wan’s line, “You were right about one thing, Master. The negotiations were short.”

  4. Cut the scene where Nute communicates with Queen Amidala on the view screen and restore the throne room scene while trimming some dialogue.

The former scene is visually unappealing, and nothing of significance transpires.

The establishing shot of the palace is beautiful. The distortion in the hologram gives Palpatine’s voice the raspy growl of Darth Sidious. Queen Amidala’s line, “I will not condone a course of action that will lead us to war,” sets up her character as a pacifist who needs to learn violence is unfortunately necessary at times.

  1. Cut the scene where Sidious informs Nute the senate is bogged down in procedures.

  2. In the scene where Queen Amidala watches the invasion from the palace window, it is still possible to see the electric cord powering the lights on her dress. Consider cropping the frame to eliminate the cord.

  3. Cut Qui-Gon saying the battle droids will not be a problem. The line lowers the stakes.

  4. As the group heads out for Mos Espa, cut Qui-Gon’s line, “No more commands from Her Highness today, Captain,” because the queen never issues any commands.

  5. Restore the title Darth. Luke refers to Darth Sidious by name in Episode VIII: The Last Jedi. Future spin off films may use the title for characters other than Vader.

  6. Change the subtitles in Watto’s dialogue with Anakin.

Anakin enters the store right after Watto calls for him, yet Watto asks what took him so long.

WATTO: What took you so long?
ANAKIN: I was cleaning the fan switches.
WATTO: Watch the store. I have some selling to do.

Change these subtitles to

WATTO: Where were you?
ANAKIN: I was fixing the vaporizer.
WATTO: It better be fixed or else I’ll vaporize you.

These subtle changes would lead the audience to despise Watto rather than viewing him as a benevolent slave owner.

  1. Restore the shot of Jar Jar juggling several items and Qui-Gon saying, “We’re leaving.” It is clear the scene is edited here.

  2. In the subtitles, Watto should not order Anakin to clean the racks before leaving, considering he never cleans the racks on-screen.

  3. Cut Anakin’s fight with Greedo and restore Jar Jar’s fight with Sebulba. Although I despise Jar Jar’s antics, the scene sets up Anakin’s rivalry with Sebulba. Greedo’s presence in the film is unnecessary fan service, and the visual quality of Anakin’s fight scene with Greedo is poor.

  4. Cut Anakin’s “oops” right before he attaches C-3PO’s right eye.

  5. In the dinner scene, cut Anakin’s line, “I’m the only human who can do it.”

  6. Incorporate additional music in the pod race.

  7. Restore Anakin’s goodbye to C-3PO.

  8. Move the scene where the Probe droid floats across the streets of Mos Espa to right before Qui-Gon slices open the probe droid so that the transition is not as sudden.

  9. Cut Qui-Gon telling Anakin to take off. Anakin never tells the pilot this. In fact, it is Obi-Wan who tells the pilot to take off.

  10. Reorder the Coruscant sequence. The flow would improve if Qui-Gon demands to speak with the Jedi Council right before he reports on his attacker and requests for Anakin to be tested. The pacing would also improve if Palpatine suggests a vote of no confidence right before the senate session where Amidala proposes this.

Currently, the sequence is
a. Landing on Coruscant
b. Palpatine’s trap
c. Qui-Gon’s report
d. Senate session

Rearrange this to
a. Landing on Coruscant
b. Qui-Gon’s report
c. Palpatine’s trap
d. Senate session

  1. Cut dialogue about Anakin being too old to be trained.

  2. Cut Anakin’s “oops” in the droid control ship.

Sounds more like a plan for another edit and not just a few adjustments. I say make your own edit. I made my own take of the Anti-Cheese edit and now it’s turned into a radical planned edit trilogy. I’ll highly encourage you to try this out for yourself

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#1151940
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Rate 'The Last Jedi' (NO SPOILERS) (was: Rate TFA (NO SPOILERS))
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StarWarsReviewer said:

TavorX said:

I can only go as far to say that ROTJ is the weakest OT film.

Yep, weakest of the OT but the OT is still better than the other movies.

I didn’t like The Force Awakens or Rogue One. I think they are at best mediocre if not bad movies, but they are not in the terrible category. The Last Jedi is just an abomination, I can’t describe it any other way. Even the prequels look like good movies in comparison. My god, this was one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen.

I’m gonna give a big fat X on that one. You may be really giving your honest opinion, but I really doubt that TLJ is that bad of a movie. I loved it, but I totally understand why people don’t like it. I don’t understand why people hate it. The Canto Bight sequence, or whatever reason it is, wasn’t enough to ruin a movie. There were a lot of positive things that came from this movie, and I feel like you’re letting small plot problems cloud your judgement and mob anger get the best of you.

Maybe I’m wrong, and I apologize if I am, but I’m incredibly skeptical when I hear people being as pissed about TLJ as you claim to be

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#1151939
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Rate 'The Last Jedi' (NO SPOILERS) (was: Rate TFA (NO SPOILERS))
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TV’s Frink said:

TV’s Frink said:

Interesting tidbit (half mentioned in one of the ten TLJ threads) on RT…current audience score is 56%, but critic score is 93% (and top critic score is 96%).

Ha, I just caught up in one of the other ten TLJ threads and see someone else posted this already.

This movie has too many threads.

Well this is one of four “official” TLJ threads…

DominicCobb said:

TV’s Frink said:

Interesting tidbit (half mentioned in one of the ten TLJ threads) on RT…current audience score is 56%, but critic score is 93% (and top critic score is 96%).

The simple truth is, no matter what the fans and general audiences usually say, critics are, for the most part, a lot more trustworthy.

I’ll give you that. Audiences, especially now and especially in Star Wars, because of internet mob culture, love to go with the popular opinion, and even more so if it’s negative. If their favorite YouTuber and/or enough people on Twitter say that it sucks, they’ll repeat whatever they’re told and hate it too

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#1151938
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Rate 'The Last Jedi' (NO SPOILERS) (was: Rate TFA (NO SPOILERS))
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LuckyGungan2001 said:

TavorX said:

MalàStrana said:

LuckyGungan2001 said:

StarWarsReviewer said:

I did not think it was possible for a Star Wars movie to be worse than Attack of the Clones, but there it is.

There are like, four Star Wars movies worse than Attack of the Clones.

I only count 3 ! What’s the fourth one ?

Maybe the animated Clone Wars one?

Yeah, that, The Phantom Menace, Rogue One and Return of the Jedi.

Wow you put ROTJ below AOTC? That takes balls, I’ll give you that, especially on OT