jephyork

Thanks! I’ll try to get either/both of them working on Wine, and see what I can do.

Can either program handle a .VOB file (ripped from the DVD), or do I need to transcode to some other format/codec?

And is either program lossless? The ultimate end goal is to reconstruct the original frames and up-res this to 720p, so I’m trying not to degrade the original image in any way. (That’s why I’m avoiding interpolation of missing fields…)

…Hmm. Are there forums dedicated to AviSynth and VirtualDub out there somewhere, so I can ask all my dumb newbie questions?

Thanks! Hmm. AviSynth is script-only, right? No GUI or timeline-based editing ability?

I’m hoping to get the frames out on an editing timeline so I can, say, delete one, swap two others, etc. Just poke at and mess with them ad nauseum. I have no idea how to do any of that with scripts.

Are you suggesting that I split them in AviSynth, then import that into another program and edit it – then export it and weave the fields back together in Avi as a final step?

Alternately: do you know if this is possible in AfterEffects? I believe I read that it has a field-separating ability, but I don’t know much more.

I’m working with interlaced video, and I want the ability to treat the individual fields that make up each frame, as if they were frames.

I want to be able to separate each frame into its two fields – to step through the fields individually – to delete some, rearrange some, change their order – and most importantly, I want the ability to recombine an upper field and a lower field to form a single frame again.

I DO NOT want software that interpolates the missing data to make each field into a full frame by itself. I want the fields to remain fields, with half their visual data missing, until I decide to recombine them manually into frames.

Is this possible?

I use a Mac and currently edit on Final Cut Pro. My source is a commercial DVD, a TV show shot on film but edited on video, presented at 29.97 interlaced.

Help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance! 😃

The Arbiter said:

darthrush said:

I have registered as darthrush and cannot get the confirmation email at all. Iv tried the re-send and checked junk mail. I’d love to keep posted on such a promising project.

I have the same problem, no email received.

It took mine hours and hours and hours to show up – but it finally did. I’d say, be patient. (And quit bumping this thread!)

(Oops…)

Please count me in as another lurker who checks this topic daily. I’m learning a ton from the discussions, and it’s great to watch the project unfold in real time. Also turkey sandwiches are my total fave.

benduwan said:

benduwan said:

do anybody know where i can find the Evil Dead 2 Full Mexican TV Version?

http://www.bookofthedead.ws/website/evil_dead_2_versions.html

it´s on myspleen now

Is it the entire movie? The version discussed in your link is missing 10 minutes of footage in the middle, and only YouTube-level quality. If a better version has surfaced I’d be ecstatic.

I’ve deleted my previous comment; it’s just serving to further the Jedimasterobiwan derail that’s sadly taken over this thread.

I’m hoping everyone will stop replying to his constant stream of “make-me-this” requests, and we can steer this thing back on track. This is an interesting project and I’m really impressed by RidgeShark’s method of overlaying the Koch and HD versions to add detail to the upscale.

So – RidgeShark – how goes the second scene? 😄

You, uh, thought wrong. His first post clearly says that he’s reconstructing the TV cut.

Feel free to make your own version of the film!

Ridgeshark knows a thing or two about the several dozen releases of this film. 😉 I’m sure he’ll use the best available version of each shot.

The aspect ratio will be cropped to match the blu-rays.

Aww. I’m a little disappointed to hear this, since the open-matte nature of the TV cut is one of its biggest appeals to me. Then again, I suppose I understand it – since your only other option is to restore every single frame of the Koch version manually, and that’s a pain in the tuchus.

I’m still ecstatic that I can extract vertical resolution from the SciFi Recording and then place it into the Koch. I had no idea such a thing was possible. It’s a huge help to the upscaling process.

This is, indeed, astoundingly cool. How do you plan to delete the SciFi logo?

RidgeShark! Nice to see you still out there, poking away at this movie in all its forms. 😃

What are you planning to do about the aspect ratio? My understanding is that the TV cut is more open-matte than the commercially available Blus.

ST2112 said:

jephyork, I just heard back from my friend and she said she no longer has anything on Xena or Hercules. It was worth a try!

Boooooo. 😦 Oh well – thanks for checking!

ST2112 said:

Unfortunately, I no longer have any of my DS9 originally recorded tapes. I always edited them down anyway, so any other show’s promos would have been edited out.

Rats! Oh well.

A very good friend of mine just sold her entire collection of…I think it was “Highlander”(?) on VHS, which included tons of bonus fan tapes, etc. I will check with her, as she may have some Xena or Hercules tapes as well.

That would be fantastic, thank you! Please do! I’ll keep my fingers crossed – if you’d rather not clutter up the thread with Xena Chat, you can send me a PM when she gets back to you. 😃

ST2112 said:
I have articles, all types of media, etc. going back to around 1968. Subjects include: 2001/2010, POTA, CE3K, James Bond, The Prisoner, MASH, and many other science fiction and fantasy films and television series. So if anyone on this forum is looking for anything specific, don’t hesitate to ask.

ST2112, not to derail, but do you have any recordings related to Hercules: The Legendary Journeys or Xena: Warrior Princess? I’m working on preserving all the promos, commercials and assorted advertising for these shows.

Even if you weren’t taping those shows, DS9 and Herc/Xena were both syndicated on the WB at about the same time (1994-1999 overlap) – so if you were taping DS9 then you’ll likely have a whole pile of “this week on Xena!” promos hidden in the commercial breaks, or under the end credits.

Please let me know! Thanks!

10 and 11?  I think you mean 11 and 12.  There are 6 TOS movies and 4 TNG movies before the 2 reboot films.  So "XII" would be correct.

[refusal to listen intensifies]

[wherein I brush off a good idea because of preconceived notions]

[more nonsense]

[I clearly have no idea what I’m talking about]

Sorry, I’ve decided to can this entire thing. Thanks to everyone who offered information!

This sounds neat!

I'm bad with torrents.  Has this movie been put up in any newsgroups yet?

-Jeph

lol ... that works too.  :-)

Is it just one solitary shot?  Personally, I'd like to see the easter egg, or bonus scene, or whatever, have at least *some* of the surrounding footage as well -- just for context's sake.  Thatway, you can watch it and say "oh, okay, that's how the scene originally went" ... instead of "wait, what was that random shot all about and where did it fit?"

Then again, it's not my project. ;-)

Looking forward to seeing which way you decide to go with it ... thanks for the reply!

-Jeph!

Great news!  By the way, any updates on fixing that "missing footage" problem, or including the entire scene in fullscreen as a short bonus feature?  I'd hate to have a restoration that was missing a couple of shots...  :-(

-Jeph!

Hey, FF. I keep trying to send this as a PM, but I keep getting error messages … so:

I noticed that a few days ago, you had this to say:

“This is the edits big snag. This is the section where we run into missing footage. For some reason, there is missing footage foe parts of this scene. The few missing sections have not made been release in letterbox anyplace. As far as I can see, there is no way to fix this error without the scene becoming more noticeable then it is now.”

Now, I’m one of those OCD folks who is going to be driven utterly up the wall by the thought that the “preservation” I’m watching is missing some stuff. 😉 So I’m wondering – is there any way to “patch in” the left and right side of the scenes in question?

I believe I suggested this before, when there was some missing footage around Nurse Chapel sedating Chekov … if the fullscreen shot is from the same angle as an earlier or later shot that you DO have in widescreen, can you just cut-and-paste in the left and right-hand sides of the screen from that other shot? Thus sort of “recreating” the widescreen? Yes, it might look weird, but remember this movie has a TON of dual-focus tricks that produce blurry lines down the center or sides of the screen … I don’t think this edit will be any more disruptive than all of those…! 😃

Alternately, is there any chance you could put that fullscreen scene, IN FULL, on your disc as a deleted scene? So even if we can’t watch it as part of the movie, we can watch the fullscreen version separately, just for completeness?

Thanks, FF. Can’t wait to see the finished product. Good luck!

-Jeph

I found that 2 second shot on the broadcast widescreen teatrical cut, so it's included. I don't know how I had missed it before.

COOL.  I was worried for a while that this would be an "almost-exactly-restored-except-for-two-seconds" version...

I made a DVD-R of this edit last night, and my buddy and I are going to watch this monster today to make sure it's ready for an xvid pre-release.

Good luck!  Say, did you include that minute-forty of black screen with music at the very start?

-Jeph!