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#1200707
Topic
CHRONOLOGICAL REVENGE OF THE SITH
Time

IlFanEditore said:

jarbear said:

Here is an idea I have about the baby birth scene:

No baby names are ever revealed. Also, it is important to remove the reveal of baby leia’s sex. Depending on the possibility to do it in a seamless way, a dub of Obi-Wan saying “It’s a Boy” helps with my idea. Here it is:

First of all, the main reveal of the babies’ genders in the original cut are revealed by the nursing robot. That is an easy fix, since she uses a “robot” language that is translated on screen. One could completely remove the translation, or use a very generic translation. It can be on the lines of “The first baby is healthy/first baby’s birth is successful” or “The second baby is healthy/the second baby’s birth is successful.” Also, having nothing is ok since Star Wars movies do not always translate Droids or Aliens.

SO with that in mind, imagine the first baby coming out and the droid’s words are not translated or say something different.

So the first birth goes as plans WITHOUT the droid revealing the sex. Obi-wan takes the baby, shows it to Padme. She does not name the child but goes directly to “pushing” out the next baby.

If possible, to help make the scene sound/feel more natural, if someone could do a seamless dub of Obi-Wan saying “it’s a boy,” it would be helpful to the scene before Padme begins “pushing out” the next child. The reason is he says “it’s a girl” to Leia but not when Luke is born. This is not 100% necessary, but adds polish to this edit.

So now we have the next baby coming out, the droid does not reveal the sex and we have Obi-wan with the second child. Here is the slight change to it from the original cut: Obi-Wan gets cut off by padme before he says girl.

It would go something like this:

Obi-Wan: “It’s a …”

Pademe: Cuts off Obi wan - “Obi-Wan…”

This way the baby’s gender is not revealed in a convincing way.

The cream on the top of this would again, be someone able to seamlessly dub in Obi Wan saying “it’s a boy” when Luke is born. Again, not 100% needed, but does help with the edit.

The next change deviates from the movie’s original transition. Instead of transitioning right a way to the interior of Tantive IV with Obi, Yoda and Bail … there is an establishing shot of the exterior of Tantine IV.

To do this, there are a few ways … one could be using a mirrored shot of Tantive IV from the movie OR someone with skill can make a new shot of the ship. It does not have to be anything fancy, just a non static shot of the ship.

During this establishment shot of the ship, it would have Obi-wan saying his line “What of the boy?”

Then it cuts to Yoda spinning in his seat and talks to Obi-Wan with the plan for the baby boy, etc. The rest is the original conversation between Yoda and Obi-Wan. By doing this, the audience is coming into the meeting during the middle … or ending of it. That way, the other baby, who’s gender has not been revealed is still hidden and its fate is not directly been revealed. Of course, we would need to remove all the Alderan shots of Bail and Wife with a baby. Just the shots of Obi-Wan on Tatooine … maybe even Yoda on Degobah.

What do you think?

Here’s what I mean.
If I remove the “It’s a girl” and during the Tantive IV scene we hear only Oni Wan talking about the boy, we don’t know about Leia’s fate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pbts9NOGR4&feature=youtu.be

The concept works aright, I don’t think it matters really who was “born first.” Obviously the boy is “rough,” but if someone who has more skill in audio editing or can piece together other sounds and words Ewan/Obi says … I think that can work very nicely.

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#1200706
Topic
CHRONOLOGICAL REVENGE OF THE SITH
Time

IlFanEditore said:

SECOND ANAKIN’S DREAM.

Same as before.
While there is the dream we hear low Palpatine saying: “Learn to use the Dark Side… Dark Side of the Force… Power to… Power to save Padme”.

https://streamable.com/bx2ze

I like that subtle inclusion of that to the dream. Maybe just SLIGHTLY louder … but not too much louder to drown out the rest of it. Only try that just to see how viable increasing it … since it’s pretty nice as is.

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#1200692
Topic
CHRONOLOGICAL REVENGE OF THE SITH
Time

Here is an idea I have about the baby birth scene:

No baby names are ever revealed. Also, it is important to remove the reveal of baby leia’s sex. Depending on the possibility to do it in a seamless way, a dub of Obi-Wan saying “It’s a Boy” helps with my idea. Here it is:

First of all, the main reveal of the babies’ genders in the original cut are revealed by the nursing robot. That is an easy fix, since she uses a “robot” language that is translated on screen. One could completely remove the translation, or use a very generic translation. It can be on the lines of “The first baby is healthy/first baby’s birth is successful” or “The second baby is healthy/the second baby’s birth is successful.” Also, having nothing is ok since Star Wars movies do not always translate Droids or Aliens.

SO with that in mind, imagine the first baby coming out and the droid’s words are not translated or say something different.

So the first birth goes as plans WITHOUT the droid revealing the sex. Obi-wan takes the baby, shows it to Padme. She does not name the child but goes directly to “pushing” out the next baby.

If possible, to help make the scene sound/feel more natural, if someone could do a seamless dub of Obi-Wan saying “it’s a boy,” it would be helpful to the scene before Padme begins “pushing out” the next child. The reason is he says “it’s a girl” to Leia but not when Luke is born. This is not 100% necessary, but adds polish to this edit.

So now we have the next baby coming out, the droid does not reveal the sex and we have Obi-wan with the second child. Here is the slight change to it from the original cut: Obi-Wan gets cut off by padme before he says girl.

It would go something like this:

Obi-Wan: “It’s a …”

Pademe: Cuts off Obi wan - “Obi-Wan…”

This way the baby’s gender is not revealed in a convincing way.

The cream on the top of this would again, be someone able to seamlessly dub in Obi Wan saying “it’s a boy” when Luke is born. Again, not 100% needed, but does help with the edit.

The next change deviates from the movie’s original transition. Instead of transitioning right a way to the interior of Tantive IV with Obi, Yoda and Bail … there is an establishing shot of the exterior of Tantine IV.

To do this, there are a few ways … one could be using a mirrored shot of Tantive IV from the movie OR someone with skill can make a new shot of the ship. It does not have to be anything fancy, just a non static shot of the ship.

During this establishment shot of the ship, it would have Obi-wan saying his line “What of the boy?”

Then it cuts to Yoda spinning in his seat and talks to Obi-Wan with the plan for the baby boy, etc. The rest is the original conversation between Yoda and Obi-Wan. By doing this, the audience is coming into the meeting during the middle … or ending of it. That way, the other baby, who’s gender has not been revealed is still hidden and its fate is not directly been revealed. Of course, we would need to remove all the Alderan shots of Bail and Wife with a baby. Just the shots of Obi-Wan on Tatooine … maybe even Yoda on Degobah.

What do you think?

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#1200667
Topic
Ep. III Chronology custom cut: Hal9000/TM2YC
Time

That topic has not been discussed yet, it has actually been quite for a bit. There were so many ideas going out it would make sense to tackle things one by one. I do believe removing the Anakin and Darth Vader connection in Revenge of the Sith should be considered to try and make the movies be watched in order. Tinkering with some of Obi Wan’s lines in A New Hope will help that as well. But not much has to be done.

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#1200665
Topic
CHRONOLOGICAL REVENGE OF THE SITH
Time

IlFanEditore said:

FIRST ANAKIN’S DREAM.

As I said, there is the cut from Grievous and Palpatine scene (where Palpy does not say that he is going to have a new apprentice) and then the panoramic city view of Coruscant.
No balcony scene, we cut to Anakin’s dream, where there are scenes on background about Shmi and Dooku’s death and Palpatine voice.

Anakin must have an “Odi et Amo” relationship with power itself, not just fear for Padme’s loss.

https://streamable.com/o5v94

That was done really well, nice job!

I am getting more and more interested in this edit. It gives me ideas about the collaboration RogueLeader is coming up with!

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#1200647
Topic
The Last Jedi: Legendary (SPOILERS)
Time

toastedzen said:

poppasketti said:

Hal 9000 said:

I’m very reluctant to crop off the broom boy ending because to me it just feels so very ‘fan edit-y’ and inauthentic in a way I can’t put my finger on. Star Wars movies always end with a scene without any dialogue, and even if Canto Bight is hardly there, the meaning of the final scene would still read easily.

Hal, I completely agree with you on this. Ending on the Falcon feels rushed to me and just kind of small.

The broom boy scene works so well not because it pays off the fathier scenes, but because it pays off Luke’s sacrifice. Luke accepting his legend and using it to inspire others gives his actions such weight and scope. It’s just epic. And it plays wonderfully after Rey herself expresses doubt about the fate of the rebellion.

Without that end scene, you lose the scale of what Luke has done. He didn’t just save our heroes, he rekindled the rebel spirit.

(Hal, I would also be grateful to see an early rough cut when it is ready!)

The imagery of the boy holding the broom like a lightsaber speaks to the child in all of us. It’s a real Disney moment, but it’s what they are really good at. It gave me goosebumps when I saw it in theaters.

I still personally have no problem at all with the Broom Boi ending. It works very well … Luke is back to the Legend and is spreading. It’s a good ending.

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#1200376
Topic
The Last Jedi: Legendary (SPOILERS)
Time

Hal 9000 said:

DZ-330 said:

Please tell me this means no kids at the end… 😉

Hmmm… well now I’m not sure. You’re right that if I go that route we now have no establishment of those kids whatsoever now.
Perhaps I should try to put together an ending Falcon scene with no dialogue. Don’t know if that could even be done or not.
I think it’ll come down to whether the current plan of heavily reducing Canto Bight works out seamlessly. Right now we have the problem of needing a shot or two of BB8 and making the transition to the hyperspace scene (whether directly or later in the film), without feeling weird that we’re suddenly on a different ship.

If removing the Broom Boi scene, the ending will be a tough one. There have been other discussions and edit/previews trying this and each time they do feel a bit too abrupt.

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#1200327
Topic
Star Wars: The Last Jedi - The Dark Cut <strong>(SPOILERS)</strong>
Time

I was ok with the removal of the salt line, that part didn’t matter to me,

Need the Rose / Stabilzer scene. Clearly his stabilizer was not engaged, and then it transition to the shot all of them have their mono-skis out. Continuity error there my friend. It shows that those rusty buckets have to have those in order to have control.

I didn’t mind the foot thing at all, personally.

Medallion removal, I can take it or leave it.

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#1200325
Topic
The Last Jedi: Legendary (SPOILERS)
Time

darthrush said:

Hal, I was looking over your cutlist and liked the idea of cutting Luke saying “Nothing will change my mind”. It did sound a bit childish in theaters and you made a good point about connecting the two static shots of R2 so I tried it out and wonder what everyone thinks.

https://vimeo.com/266454365

Smooth, very smooth. I like that a lot! Thanks for keeping the last line though!

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#1200001
Topic
The Last Jedi : Fan Edit Ideas - ** <strong>SPOILERS INSIDE</strong> **
Time

Handman said:

Maybe Kylo Ren could’ve said they sold her to get off Jakku.

Doesn’t really have the same ring to it. He was trying to make her feel worthless in order to get her to join him (break her down to build himself up), so I feel like “drinking money” fits fine here. It doesn’t have to be 100% truthful.

Plus… What was it Obi-wan said in the original film…? The idea that characters have to give 100% factual information is kind of silly.

Ben Solo being like Ben Kenobi? Ben Solo is living up to his Uncle & Grandpa’s mentor very nicely.

I think it is easy to assume he is not being completely truthful, he had an agenda.

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#1199968
Topic
The Last Jedi: Legendary (SPOILERS)
Time

RogueLeader said:

I really like your newest clip Hal. Regardless of the merits of keeping/removing the fathier chase, I really like the new music transition between scenes. Maybe it’s just me, but I feel like it helps give Finn’s last look of contemplation a little more weight. As if it could make the audience doubt even more whether Finn will actually commit to the cause or become like DJ.

Agreed ^^

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#1199593
Topic
The Last Jedi: Legendary (SPOILERS)
Time

darthrush said:

I love how you replaced the BB-8 sfx and smoothed over the music transition. It really sells what I couldn’t get right when trying to transition between those two clips.

I prefer keeping the dialogue in the ship of “You know about this place?”, “only in stories” and THEN cutting to Canto Bight. Your version feels a little rushed, but overall I think you really sold the transition between the Casino establishing shots and them arriving which is absolutely the critical cut.

Great work Hal.

That was done very well Hal, especially the music and the BB-8 Sfx. Thank you for trimming that.

I do agree with Darthrush that did feel a bit too rushed. By keeping that dialogue that ends at “…in stories” it helps to remove the “rushness” to the scene and helps transition to the rest. It also gives you a little “heads up” to what is going to happen next to the look and feel of the casino.

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#1199552
Topic
The Last Jedi : Fan Edit Ideas - ** <strong>SPOILERS INSIDE</strong> **
Time

One thing to keep in mind too, it could all be a misdirect for everyone for Episode 9. The reason for this, if we may recall, Snoke created that “mind” link between Ben and Rey. Granted he explained his “trap” with his reveal he planted that conflict in Ben. Maybe he cooked something up to draw Ben to Ray with the whole parent thing. A way for both of them to draw together for different reasons so Ray would come to Ben … which was the trap.

Granted I am not saying that is exactly the case and has it flaws. But hey, we have to wait and see until Episode 9…

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#1198103
Topic
A Collaborative Star Wars Saga Edit
Time

I’ve been re-listening to this last one a lot as well. Another thing that stands out is there needs to be more bass or something to the Your Mother part. When I stepped back and closed my eyes, I did notice the first 2 words were a bit more “empty.” So that, and on top of slowing down mother another slight bit … I think this will nail it!

For the mother part (again listening a lot) I think the “uh” sound needs to be lengthened, as well as the “er” at the end. I think there are sounds that can be used if that would help based on prior quotes if that helps.

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#1198059
Topic
A Collaborative Star Wars Saga Edit
Time

Jackpumpkinhead said:

Sir Ridley said:

Your mother once thought this should do:
https://mega.nz/#!bR0CUAgZ!8tXiiKI9PUpvmjG1VO3qkCUnFyiF5YaVewQ-oSBXAdw

That is so close to perfect! I think “mother” could be slowed down a bit more

I agree, it’s essentially 98%-99% perfect, I think if it just slows down ever so slightly it will work. My goodness Ridley, this is AMAZING!

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#1197636
Topic
The Last Jedi : Fan Edit Ideas - ** <strong>SPOILERS INSIDE</strong> **
Time

RogueLeader said:

I just personally think the fight between Kylo and Luke shouldn’t be a physical one. The fact that Luke projected himself was a brilliant decision. It’s the ultimate Jedi act, defense, not attack. It allowed him to confront Kylo Ren and save the Resistance, but it also prevented him from having to kill Ben (which he doesn’t want to do) and it prevented Ben from being able to kill Luke and plunge himself further into the dark side.

The fact that the whole First Order saw him take a barrage of firepower and be untouched, toy with their new Supreme Leader and then just disappear, is the stuff of legend.

We saw Luke be a badass, showing us one of the most, if not the most, powerful uses of the Force we’ve ever seen. I totally get the fanboy desires, but I would just think about it some more!

I agree, I am the same way. Granted the “fanboy” in me would love to see a more epic duel, but for the direction the movie was going I do agree the Force Projection was brilliant.

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#1197634
Topic
The Last Jedi : Fan Edit Ideas - ** <strong>SPOILERS INSIDE</strong> **
Time

darthrush said:

To bring up another topic…I did kind of want to see just a little bit more power displayed from Luke. Just a little more. There are a few options for this right now:

  1. The Redone Luke/Kylo fight from Ivan Ortega

This is the thing that I desperately want to work. He said he will film on a green screen with the costumes and all so I just really hope it works out all right.

  1. Have Luke be the one to fly the Raddus into the Supremacy

This might work better if you start on Crait and end with the throne room like DigiMod’s TLJ edit.

  1. Custom vfx work to have Luke bring down AT-AT’s?

This might be cool. I am literally just spit balling anything by this point to have ideas for Luke to do something else cool. This is honestly just a fanboy desire but I’d love to see something happen and the redone fight with Ivan Ortega looks like the best shot for that right now.

I would love an edit to have Akbar to Kamikaze the First Order. 😉