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#675796
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Star Wars: Episode VII to be directed by J.J. Abrams **NON SPOILER THREAD**
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generalfrevious said:

Remember, people, that George is still in the background for Episode VII, and has anyone forgotten about the hype for Episode I 15 years back? With Abrams being a Spielberg clone at best, we might have another perfect storm in our hands. Hopefully Abrams has more respect for SW than he had for ST.

Thank you. We can't assume that Lucas is the only bad director in the world.

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#675578
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Star Wars prequels were mapped out in 1981, only nothing like the way they turned out
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adywan said:

This is a really interesting excerpt from the upcoming "Making of Return of the Jedi" book.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/22/star-wars-prequels-return-of-the-jedi_n_3313793.html

Interesting to just how different his plans were back then. It also destroys the argument of the prequel fans that they were planned out that way all along ( i bet they're going to love that ;) ). 

So to summarise;

Yoda doesn't fight. He is more of a teacher.

NO MIDICHLORIANS

Jedi can love and marry.

ANYONE can learn to use the force if they are prepared to learn.

Luke & Leia's mother was still alive until they were 2 years old

So they would have originally fit in pretty well with the OT.

also,

The Empire ceases to exist at the end of ROTJ.

Palpatine is described as an ancient being who looks the way he does because he's using the dark side to make himself immortal.

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#675437
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Making of Return of the Jedi (the book) Thread
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SilverWook said:

I've been out comic collecting circles for a long time, but I never heard Crisis regarded as crap. It was an attempt to smooth out 50 years' worth of continuity issues. The EU is hardly that messy. ;)

Unless wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff goes in the EU these days, I can't see the Galaxy Far Far Away being altered in such a fashion, without a ridiculous amount of deus ex machina, that would be below the dignity of fifth rate fan fiction.

Crisis was totally uneccesary in my opinion. I would have preferred an outright reboot.

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#675348
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What do you HATE about the EU?
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Aural sensors. Sound in space is supposed to be "Star Wars physics".

Jedi constantly becoming Sith. It's like Martin Luther King becoming a white supremecist.

Undermining the movies. Can the Sith and Empire please die?

Canon Nazis. In many places it's become impossible to have a movies-only conversation and Disney has received death threats for contradicting the EU.


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#674578
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What do you LIKE about the EU?
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RicOlie_2 said:

Verboten said:

Palpatine's question in that scene does not make sense. How would the Jedi know anything about Plagueis? It's the same problem with Yoda knowing about the rule two.

How does it not make sense? Palpatine stated that it wasn't a story the Jedi would tell, but that doesn't necessarily mean they knew about it. It could just mean that the Jedi don't tell stories about great rises to power because they don't want Jedi following that path and falling to the Dark Side. Plagueis was a secret and the Jedi didn't know about him, and Palpatine knew that they wouldn't know about him. Yoda didn't necessarily know about a "rule of two", but he did know that for ages there had only been two Sith at a time, and no more.

About the Rule of Two, Lucas said that the Rule of Two has existed for "thousands of years", implying that its institution occured long before the Sith seemigly went extinct. However, bad wording in the TPM novelization's Sith history led the EU to believe that the institution of the Rule of Two was a result of the Sith getting wiped out.

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#674555
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What do you LIKE about the EU?
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DuracellEnergizer said:

 

RicOlie_2 said:


Somehow there is a distinguishment (is that a word?) between Dark Jedi and Sith too, but that doesn't really count since they're essentially the same thing.


It's funny, really, how the Sith & Dark Jedi have been portrayed/characterized over the years.

In the 90's, the Sith in the EU-- the ones in the comics, at least -- were often labelled as Dark Jedi by the other characters in the stories, but they still had enough distinguishing characteristics to set them apart from the more mundane Dark Jedi who turned up in books like The Crystal Star.

Flash forward to today, and now there's this big distinction placed between the two, even though there's little-to-no difference between the two ethically or aesthetically (red lightsabers, pale white skin, yellow eyes, megalomania, uncompromising hatred for Jedi, etc, etc.).

 

So true. The 90s EU and the prequels had different definitions of "Sith", so the modern EU decided to reconcile them by making everybody a Sith.

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#674523
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What do you LIKE about the EU?
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ray_afraid said:

RicOlie_2 said:

 

don't worry, he just posted a link to the scene in Episode three about him.

That's what I'm afraid of...

RicOlie_2 said:

Plagueis is Palpatine's master.

Ah, right on. Thanks!

Here's the conversation I posted a link to:

Palpatine: Did you ever hear the Tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise?
Anakin: No.
Palpatine: I thought not. It's not a story the Jedi would tell you. It's a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith so powerful and so wise, he could use the Force to influence the midi-chlorians to create...life. He had such a knowledge of the Dark Side, he could even keep the ones he cared about...from dying.
Anakin: He could actually...save people from death?
Palpatine: The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.
Anakin: What happened to him?
Palpatine: He became so powerful, the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power...which, eventually of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew. Then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. Ironic. He could save others from death...but not himself.
Anakin: Is it possible to learn this power?
Palpatine: Not from a Jedi.

Interviews with Lucas and the EU reveal that the apprentice is Palpatine himself.
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#674521
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General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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DuracellEnergizer said:

 

darklordoftech said:



DuracellEnergizer said:

 


darklordoftech said:

SilverWook said:

The crux of the argument is this: Does the Empire fall in a day after ROTJ, or does it take some time? The Special Edition would have you believe in instant collapse. The original version mostly leaves it up to the mind of the viewer.



There's several sources from 1983 that suggest that the intent was always instant collapse. Making of ROTJ is full of references to the Empire dying with Palpatine and the ROTJ novelization ends with the words, "The Empire is dead."


Only what shows up on screen matters. Authorial intent, supplimentary material, and various behind-the-scenes comments don't matter.

 


Tell Thrawn that.


Placing the Thrawn Trilogy in my own personal canon =/= the Thrawn Trilogy's validity outside of my own personal canon.

Nice strawman argument, though.

 

You're the one using the strawman argument. You have repeatedly insisted that the Thrawn trilogy is absolutely canon and flamed anybody who doesn't acknowledge it.