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darklordoftech

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#1181528
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Who Was Kira? - The Lucas Sequels
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The transforming Emperor quote seems to be from before Yoda was created, and the idea was that there would be a battle between Palpatine and Obi-Wan in which it would be revealed that they can switch between physical and ghost forms at will. This is seen in the first screenplay draft of ROTJ and I suspect that introducing Palpatine as a hologram was supposed to make him seem “ghostly”. That quote may or may not have been from before Lucas decided to end the Luke-Vader-Palpatine Saga with the third (in release order) film.

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#1126964
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Star Wars prequels were mapped out in 1981, only nothing like the way they turned out
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NeverarGreat said:

The idea was that masters were gurus who were entirely separate from the military aspect of the Jedi. This is why Yoda never trains Luke with the lightsaber, whereas this is the first thing Obi-wan covers.

Another part of the idea was that the masters are the secret rulers of the galaxy, with Yoda being the secret mentor of the more famous Obi-Wan and Palpatine secretly being a dark side master.

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#1126956
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Star Wars prequels were mapped out in 1981, only nothing like the way they turned out
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flametitan said:

darklordoftech said:

YodaFan67 said:

Came to this through the index thread.

"Lucas: Well, he is a teacher, not a real Jedi. Understand that?

Kasdan: I understand what you’re saying, but I can’t believe it; I am in shock."

THis made me laugh for some reason

As I see it, the idea was that Yoda and Palpatine are “masters” while Vader and Obi-Wan are “knights”. “Knights” use lightsabers and tend to join the action while “masters” prefer giving orders and don’t need lightsabers because they can use The Force itself.

Kind of like a Feudal Lord and their vassals?

You might onto something considering that Lucas initially saw the Jedi and Sith as Samurai serving rival Feudal Lords.

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#1126912
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Star Wars prequels were mapped out in 1981, only nothing like the way they turned out
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YodaFan67 said:

Came to this through the index thread.

"Lucas: Well, he is a teacher, not a real Jedi. Understand that?

Kasdan: I understand what you’re saying, but I can’t believe it; I am in shock."

THis made me laugh for some reason

As I see it, the idea was that Yoda and Palpatine are “masters” while Vader and Obi-Wan are “knights”. “Knights” use lightsabers and tend to join the action while “masters” prefer giving orders and don’t need lightsabers because they can use The Force itself.

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#1118891
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How do you feel about the saga continuing without Palpatine?
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The title of this thread does point to something interesting: The original and prequel trilogies all worked within the premise that there was a Republic and a Jedi Order, but then the Republic became an Empire and wiped out the Jedi Order, and a Rebellion and the surviving Jedi are trying to bring back the Republic and Jedi Order. TFA has the Empire collapse, a New Republic and Jedi Order form, this Jedi Order also collapse, and the First Order and Resistance form off-screen.