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#1021137
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Rogue One: A Star Wars Story - FanEdit Ideas <strong><em>SPOILERS</em></strong>
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Hey everyone.

I liked the film - and more the second time around, which is always a good sign. Act 3 being so good enriches everything in the first 2 acts on rewatch.

I’d change a few things:

The score. I’d like to see most of it rescored with ANH/ESB tracks.

Cut as much (ideally all) Forest Whitaker.

I’d replace Vader’s bad pun with something he might actually have said in that situation.

Make a few subtle cuts of Tarkin shots and dialogue. I thought his voice was a bigger problem than the CGI.

The opening 20 minutes could be tightened.

On a different tack, I’m looking forward to “Death Star: The Motion Picture” that someone will now inevitably make.

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#941633
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The Force Awakens Fan Edit Ideas - ** SPOILERS **
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I’ve just uploaded a rough TFA edit. If anyone wants it send a PM.

It started out as an experiment to see if I could seamlessly remove the Rathtars and X-wing assault on SKB. I had thought the Rathtars would be reasonably easy and X-Wings tough or maybe impossible. But in practice the Rathtars were much tougher due to having to cut so many shots of Chewie’s wounded arm, and the X-wings was quite an easy thing to cut. The X-wing-less Act 3 really works well, IMO, and means it doesn’t feel like a retread of ANH in the last 20 minutes any more.

It’s rough around the edges… you know, like all my fanedits. But hopefully it’ll be helpful to those down the line with their edits.

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#940988
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Need special effects for your edit? Request them here!
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This might be asking too much, but a shot I’d like to include in my TFA edit is of the Falcon leaving the Starkiller Base without the X-wings. The Falcon flies away and then the base explodes.

Would this be possible?

Needless to say, I’d be enormously grateful if you could do this!

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#928753
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Star Wars: A New Threat (TFA EDIT)
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Mikeluv80 said:

i honestly couldn’t care less if any of you are homos. i’m here for the star wars. start a homo thread if that’s what you guys wanna talk about. can we get back to the Force Awakens edit discussion now? smh

I suddenly really hope one of the main characters in the new trilogy turns out to be gay… just to piss you off.

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#923512
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The Force Awakens Fan Edit Ideas - ** SPOILERS **
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Lord Haseo said:

daneditor said:
It seems likely that Snoke has access to the Force, so why can’t it be assumed that he’s used the Force to get the information?

Because it’s not established that he can do things like that. Forcedunit is already a poor writing tool in situations where it’s kind of explained so no explanation at all would be nearly unforgivable. I think the best course of action is to trim the scene as much as possible while still having it be a proper scene. At least that’s what I’m doing.

OK, I’ll put it another way: why does the audience need to know how Snoke discovered the news? And is it worth the entire rathtar scene just for that piece of exposition?

I personally don’t need to know how Snoke got the info. Whether it’s the Force or his spies or whatever. He’s a powerful overload-type. He’s clearly got some powers.

Him getting the info before Kylo Ren tells the audience that Snoke is ahead of Kylo Ren in the game. That’s what matters, not some mechanical plot element.

Besides, I think the rathtars really damage the movie and would be much better cut altogether. It screws with the pacing to have an action scene there. The escape from Jakku only finished a couple of minutes earlier. The film needs a breather with a bit of quiet character stuff with Han. Then onto Maz.

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#923492
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The Force Awakens Fan Edit Ideas - ** SPOILERS **
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Lord Haseo said:

Actually the leader of the Guavian Death Gang told the First Order BB-8 was on the Millennium Falcon and in the hands of Han Solo.

I was thinking of doing a quick edit next week when the blu ray gets here and the first thing I’d cut would be the rathtars scene, which messes up the rhythm of the movie.

But if the Scottish guy telling the First Order about BB-8 on the Falcon is the only continuity issue then I don’t see the problem. It seems likely that Snoke has access to the Force, so why can’t it be assumed that he’s used the Force to get the information?

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#894668
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The Force Awakens Fan Edit Ideas - ** SPOILERS **
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TV’s Frink said:

I think it’s reasonable to assume Luke only wanted to be found by the right person and/or at the right time.

And we’ll probably find out in the next movie.

Yeah agreed.

I guess my point is that I’d like to see a fan editor streamline the map storyline… somehow. Either so that BB-8 has the whole map, or changing the waking up of Artoo to make it feel less coincidental and random.

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#894610
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The Force Awakens Fan Edit Ideas - ** SPOILERS **
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To be honest, after seeing TFA for a third time I’ve made my peace with the Starkiller Base. It’s quite a neat idea to have it kill a star while taking the word starkiller… it’s quite clever, in admittedly a wholly unoriginal way.

The main issue I can’t seem to make peace with is the map. That whole mcguffin doesn’t seem to have been thought out.

A) why would someone who doesn’t want to get found make a map to his location?

B) why does Artoo have some of the map and Max Von Sydow have the rest?

C) why does Artoo wake up suddenly out of the blue and remember he has the map?

D) why did no one think to check Artoo all the time he was catatonic in case he had a map to his old owner?

The whole thing gives me a headache and just seems needlessly complicated. The film is so well directed that you go along with it in the moment but after the credits roll it really bugs me.

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#888479
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The Force Awakens: Official Review Thread - ** SPOILERS **
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Dunedain said:

Haven’t seen it, but I heard it’s a really bad quality rip-off of the story in the first Star Wars, incredibly lacking in originality. To the point where any criticisms against how references to the original trilogy were handled in the prequels make Lucas seem like a master of subtlety…

Is that the feeling a lot of other Star Wars fans have that have already seen it?

It’s a well made, fun movie with genuinely lovable and empathetic characters.

Sure, the plot is predictable and too reliant on ANH, but the characters and the energy of the direction makes up for it.

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#887419
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The Force Awakens Fan Edit Ideas - ** SPOILERS **
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I loved the opening scenes on Jakku - but the scene with the tentacle monsters feels like it belongs in a different (and less good) movie. I’d like to see it cut entirely. It’s just a question of whether Rey would have returned immediately to Jakku if the CGI monster scene/emergency hyperspace jump hadn’t happened.

I think what bothers me about it: after their escape from Jakku the film was crying out for a few quiet character moments between Rey and Finn. So it’s not just that it’s a blatantly CGI creature (and a total waste of the guys from The Raid) but the audience and the characters needed a moment to breathe.

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#887150
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The Force Awakens Fan Edit Ideas - ** SPOILERS **
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I thought The Force Awakens was a lot of fun, with superb new characters and interesting conflicts and arcs. It looked good, sounded good and felt like Star Wars.

But…

I suspect the main criticism of The Force Awakens in the years to come will be this: it’s a rip-off of A New Hope. It’s kinda tricky to argue against that at a story level. It’s about a young, orphaned, force-sensitive protagonist stranded on a desert world who finds a droid with a mcguffin inside it. They then go on a journey across the galaxy, resulting in a huge X-wing TIE fighter battle over a Death Star (which is then destroyed) and an old man dies at the hands of a bad man in black.

Yet, personally, I only found the deja vu kicked in during the third act. The Starkiller Base I think is the culprit. I also suspect that many of the problems with the second half of the film (too much like A New Hope, the anti-climactic third act battle, how weird it was no one mentioned an entire star system was wiped out, the focus on characters superseded by a predictable, obligatory action scene) would be extracted just by removing this storyline.

The characters - old and new - are by far the best thing about this movie, and focusing on them throughout would have served the film better. It would set The Force Awakens apart from A New Hope instead of relying on another fricking Death Star to give the film stakes.

This is coming over way more negative than I actually feel about it. I enjoyed it massively and can’t wait to see it again. And that’s what excites me about fanedits of this movie, as distinct from The Phantom Menace et al. Underneath the flawed, irrational, nonsensical plotting of the prequels there were no interesting and lovable characters - just blank avatars. But with Rey, Finn, Poe and Kylo Ren this film has some great, great characters. The heroes are all likeable/lovable, and Kylo Ren is a much more complex and interesting character than I was expecting.

So I feel this is potentially exciting for Star Wars faneditors. If we nip and tuck The Force Awakens, and maybe add some deleted scenes to calm the frantic pace down a touch, then I feel this movie could be special.

Plus, for me at least, the x-wing battle in the middle of the film was superior anyway in terms of suspense and spectacle - and without the inevitable sequence of events that leads to a Death Star being all blowed up again.

The only question mark I can think of: was that Coruscant destroyed? If so, clearly that’s too important a plot point to cut out.

A few other changes:

Cut back on the callbacks. The 12 Parsecs routine and trash compactor was meta, which has no place in Star Wars. I love Joss Whedon, but thank goodness he didn’t direct this.

I’d like to end it one shot earlier as well. The final scene had slightly awkward editing all round, but surely you end on Luke’s face, given the whole film has led to that moment.

I’d also look to re-edit the fight between Kylo Ren and Rey so that Rey doesn’t beat him, but maybe just hangs on in there. I made this comment at fanedit.org, but if Luke had picked up Obi-Wan’s lightsaber and then fought Darth Vader on the Death Star it would have a) undermined Darth Vader, b) skipped Luke too far down his arc for a first movie in a trilogy.

I know that’s not a fair comparison given that Vader hadn’t just been wounded by Chewie after killing his dad, but how the scene plays out undermines Kylo Ren’s power, and stretches credibility.

Add your ideas below…

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#777374
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STAR WARS: EP I &quot;THE VALOR CUT&quot; **JUSTIN VALORMAN**COMPLETED**YOUTUBE LINK UP
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ShortRound24 said:

I already discussed this with justinvalorman via PM but I thought I'd share those ideas here also. 

This is a rough cut of my idea to make Anakin work out how to destroy the Command Ship. 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_ueuSW0xXbyQXljUFB4UzFEOFE/view?usp=sharing

If it appeared unclear in the clip, the idea was to have Anakin fly through the West Hanger, straight through the half doughnut ship and out the East Hanger. 

 I'd personally lose the "Now this is podracing" line but this is great work. I have to assume someone has done something similar before, because in hindsight it seems such an obvious change, but I haven't seen it in any other edit (and I certainly didn't do it with my TPM edit).

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#744089
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Return of the Jedi: Dan Edit - Clips Online
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Cool! Thanks for letting me know.

There's not much there that could be added, unfortunately. A few moments maybe. Some action with an AT-ST around 6 minutes. There's a nice big pan of an imperial base at the 8 minute mark. And obviously it's nice to have a higher quality version of the Tydirium landing on Endor.

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#735054
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The Phantom Menace: Radical Re-Edit
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joos said:

Is this edit not on iafd?  I'd love to put a review there.

 Looks like you found it. :)

And thanks for the review. I'm glad you (mostly) liked it.

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#695340
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Return of the Jedi: Radical Re-Edit
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Bingowings said:

The saber build mock up looked like a really good mock-up (so not total crap). Contextually it is jar-jarring just dropped into an edit in it's current form but I do hope someone like Ady will remake the idea with models and body doubles etc.

That scene fully realised would have been one of the highlights of the film in my opinion so to add it in an edit would be amazing.

Yeah I love that idea (ben_danger's idea), and it would be great to see it in ROTJ:R. Really would feel like an emotional, ESB-type Dagobah scene if done right.

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#695335
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Return of the Jedi: Radical Re-Edit
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arctofire said:

Hello Dan Editor

I have seen your edit and thoroughly enjoyed it, my favroite changes have to be making Han Solo come across as a loving boyfriend rather than an unkind, overprotective, moron. It is also heart warming to see a character that cocky to make such a change over a trilogy rather than a step backwards in maturity from the last film.

 I also love the change of music at the end, this is so much better than Yub Nub. I have to say the original is the rubbish but you fixed that real good.

I am just getting into Fan Editing (I've wanted to do it for ages but my 2.3 GHZ CPU and 3.0 GB RAM stopped Sony Vegas from working) and I am hoping to fix those problems in the future, I was wondering if I could help you maybe create a Star Wars Return of the Jedi Remastered. Because much as I loved you edit it was quite bad quality and I belive it should recieve a remastered release with 5.1 surround sound and a cleanup and upscale. I will do this all for you because I love this edit alot and I want to make it look like a proffesional film. This will include changing the Jabba subtitles to make them on the video and the same font as the original, rather than off the video and a different font. Can I have permission to do this.

 Absolutely! That would be great. Change it in any way you want.

Although, based on your comment about the bad quality, I wonder which version you watched? If it was the download from fanedit.info it's a different edit. That "Dan Edit" version is sourced from the PAL DVD and is quite conservative. This edit is from the blu-ray, and is the version I'm happier with.

So I don't know if this version's video is a problem, it seems pretty good to me - although it could definitely do with a 5.1 mix. It's something I've always avoided because I don't have 5.1 but plenty of people would prefer it.

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#695268
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Return of the Jedi: Radical Re-Edit
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marduk666 said:

Do you have any updates on this project. I Wish you luck in this endevor and I would love to see your Workprint.

 There hasn't been any work done on this edit for a few months now - and there probably won't be until some new footage comes online. Probably the Tydirium fan film, or some other cool looking fan film set on Endor.

Re: getting rid of the ewoks. It would take a huge amount of reshooting and/or great fan film footage to make it work. So you would replace ewok stuff with rebel troops on the ground planning and fighting, and maybe then it would be possible. If you cut the ewoks without having some really great replacement footage it just wouldn't work.

Re: the lightsaber building scene. It looked like total crap so I got rid of it. You'd need to be GREAT with cgi stuff (or be willing to spend some money on this edit... and, nope) to make it look other than total crap... and I'm not even half decent. Hopefully Adywan and his team of magicians will do something similar, because I really dig the idea.

Anyway, the workprint is still online, so if anyone else wants to download it I'm just a PM away.

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#673635
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Return of the Jedi: Radical Re-Edit
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ben_danger said:

i wonder if any of the story could be re-purposed as 'bothan' spies for the opening? (bothans could just be humans)

There's a fan film called Broken Allegiance:

https://vimeo.com/2847715

It starts with a couple of humans on a small ship fleeing Coruscant and the Executor. At one point I used that scene to open this edit while specifying in the opening crawl that they're Bothan spies who have just stolen the Death Star plans.

I thought it was a nice way to start the film with a bang, but ultimately decided the footage wasn't good enough to use - the fx are good for a fan film, but don't match the look of ROTJ at all. I also agreed with the criticism that it's a bit weird starting with characters we've never seen before (and will never see again).

But it would be nice to start ROTJ with a space battle, and it makes sense to set up the mcguffin in the opening scene.

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#673438
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Return of the Jedi: Radical Re-Edit
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Reegar said:

The extra scene of storm troopers versus rebels in the forest is interesting. The battle feels more wide-spread on Endor and overall bigger as a result. I feel we need one more added scene like that to help balance this one out. That feeling is abstract, yeah. We're seeing a battle that's borderline isolated from the bunker. In the future, when more high-quality material is available, I'd really want to see a second battle happening on the "border" of it all.

Agreed. Hopefully that extra battle footage will come from this:

http://www.tydirium.tv

Supposedly it's being worked on again after being abandoned in the mid 2000s - and if it does finally get released it'll be a goldmine for ROTJ edits in the future.

 

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