Orion is theatrical. The Hemdale logo that’s seen on some video releases didn’t exist in 1984.
canofhumdingers said:
Even if that image is from a more recent edition, the lightsaber’s been there since opening day in 1980.
I even went back to two VHS versions and even though the bulk of the lightsaber was cropped out I could make out a bit of the gripped area of the handle in the bottom corner so yes I know this wasn’t something added later
ken-obi said:
Huh. That is a pretty cool spot. Is that an image from the 2019 version?
I believe so. Granted I screen capped this from a YouTube video.
Tonight I finally noticed something that answers a question that’s bugged me literally EVERY time I’ve watched ESB until now. After Luke flies out the window I’ve constantly asked myself “how did he get his lightsaber back??” when he confronts Vader again. Well I finally got the answer. The lightsaber landed just a few feet away from where Luke pulls himself onto the platform. Never realized this until now.
One last post regarding the Faces Empire tape. One thing you might notice is for some odd reason, despite that its essentially the 1993 master converted to full screen, the image is slightly stretched horizontally but I also noticed it shows slightly more image at the top. For comparison here’s a shot from the VHS…
…and the same shot from the GOUT converted to 4:3. I tried to get the framing accurate.
I love these two I found on YouTube.
“if you think incomplete, error-ridden, scene missing, awful effects theatricals are better, then you’re either an extreme windowlicker or totally blinded by ridiculous nostalgia.”
“ Why would anyone want the superior versions to die? Sure the original SE from the 90s can die, it’s been improved since then. But even those were better than the laughable theatricals.”
Especially when the subject was never about “changing them back”.
A lot recently since I’m in the process of digitizing my VHS’.
More example of the blue laser bolts from the Faces VHS of Empire from earlier in the scene.
If this is what you got then Full Screen should have been expected.
Any of the changes had George Lucas’ involvement. Fox had no role in this. The 2019 changes were actually done circa 2012 for a 3D release that never happened.
The 1991 Addams Family movie is extended in the UHD release.
It includes both cuts.
The music was slightly extended in parts beginning during the sequence where Han is being loaded onto the Slave 1. Why exactly I’m not sure. Perhaps they wanted the music to continue up til it cut back to Luke and Vader. There’s also difference in timing for the music during the actual escape too (partly due to extending Lando’s evacuation announcement). The closing cue that’s suppose to hit when it cuts to the exterior of the platform where the final duel takes place now happens about two seconds before actually cutting to the shot.
I don’t own it but many have recommended the 2015 Blu-ray.
I have a question about the audio tracks. The version of 4K77 that I’m checking out has a track labeled as 1993 Laserdisc Stereo. However listening to this I hear none of the alterations made for the 1993 LD. Any input on this???
There was a mislabeling in tracks 14 and 15 for 4K77. Track 14 is the 1985 English Stereo Remix and Track 15 is the 1993 English Stereo Remix.
In other words: The track labeled ‘1993 remix’ is the 1985 remix and the track labeled ‘1985 remix’ is the 1993 remix
Ahh ok. Sadly the one I have lacks a track labeled 1985 remix but I guess that’d be the 1993 labeled mix then.
I have a question about the audio tracks. The version of 4K77 that I’m checking out has a track labeled as 1993 Laserdisc Stereo. However listening to this I hear none of the alterations made for the 1993 LD. Any input on this???
Jaws (1975)'s 5.1 mix heard on all streaming versions uses a different recording of Man Against Beast from the one in the theatrical mono.
That would be more a subject for this thread…
…but yes you are correct. There was apparently tape damage to the master of the original take so when the film was remixed in 2000 an alternate take was used. The original take was restored for the 2015 Intrada CD however. A shame Universal didn’t bother to restore it to the film for the UHD release last year.
I don’t hate them but I think it would’ve worked out a little better if they’d been Wookiees like George originally planned.
I love this thread.
Thank you for the update! 😃
Don’t know if this was mentioned but I even showed my family this one recently. George talks about the first time the studio saw the first Star Wars. In 1997 he says they loved it. In his 2015 interview with Charlie Rose he says they hated it.
(17:22-17:25)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7HLfYQ3RjDQ&t=1045s
(34:24-34:28)
Does anyone have the SE poster arts textless but the variants that were used for the VHS/LD releases, not the poster variants??? Closest I could find is this but it’s too small plus there’s a line that splits through the middle of the Empire artwork.
Hello. Quick question. There’s two versions of the 1982 rental copy of Star Wars on MySpleen but they both have different Fox logos. One has the theatrical logo but with the theme re-recorded, the other the plastered logo but also with the re-recorded version. Which version is accurate to the original rental VHS or were there copies of that release floating around with both logos???
Widescreen variant for those interested. Haven’t updated the insert yet.
Think I’ve come up with a Faces Trilogy cover that I’m satisfied with. As with my 1992 Trilogy style cover I decided to have the George Lucas message be an insert that goes in the inside of the case. Here’s what I got.
