chyron8472

Ben3827 said:

This is amazing work, I'd given up hope of ever being able to see the Star Wars I remember again!

I'm a complete novice at this so would appreciate a bit of help/advice.

I have burnt the ESB and SW avchd versions to 8.5gb dual layer dvd, but ROTJ keeps coming back as too large. I'm assuming this is because the first two are .iso files whilst ROTJ isn't. I'm also assuming that the new version of ROTJ will address this when it is ready.

Am I right? And is there anyway to burn the 1.0 avchd version to a single DVD?

 http://www.dvd-guides.com/guides/blu-ray-copy/260-burn-blu-ray-avchd-using-imgburn

I successfully downloaded the Bluray version of Episode 3 from usenet and am now seeding it on the spleen. I will work to get Episode 2 up there soon.

necro'd.

I've been looking around at several different fanedits over the years, and thus far it seems to me that Q2's Fall of the Jedi Trilogy is the best prequel trilogy. Primarily, his Episode III is the best Ep 3 edit I've seen so far.

At first, I greatly preferred Stankpac's edit, though his DVD release had no menu and his title card had a nearly-naked woman on it. When he released later versions, however, the DVD menus looked amateurish and his Palpatine "Sith-reveal" was done poorly.

I've watched Kerr's Dark Force Rising, and it is good as far as content, but the whole thing is sped up. As in, the framerate of the movie is increased. Not only is the video faster than it feels it should be, but also the voices of the characters are higher pitched and it's jarring.

While L8wrtr's Episode 1 and 2 are good, his Episode 3 includes Chewbacca and removes Yoda's use of a lightsaber without showing how he managed to escape from the clones. Also, as mentioned previously, his "sith-reveal" wasn't done well because it's not obvious why Palpatine looks different.

I mean SPECIFICALLY what is better?

I enjoy that, in Q2's edit: Vader is not mentioned; the suit is not shown; and Padme doesn't die.

I would like for him to include a Kerr-style Palpatine "sith-reveal", but only if it looks good. Many other edits that have done this don't implement it very well.

Lord Haseo said:

IanSolo said:

Just joined this forum hopin' to watch this fan edit. Is this still considered one of the better TPM edits? I keep wanting to rewatch the movie, but everytime I've done that I've totally regretted it. Ha!

Yeah his Episode II & 2 edits were great. His ROTS edit was a bit of a dissapointment. If you want a Prequel Trilogy that syncs with the OT I recommend the Fall Of The Jedi Episodes I and II and Hal 9000's Labyrinth Of Evil edit. 

 Why?

FOTJ Episode III is better than the other Episodes III in my opinion. What is it about LOE that you would consider superior?

Check PM.

Yirmeyahu said:

chyron8472 said:

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 Am I being too long winded here? *The black wind howls*

 No, I was enumerating exactly how to do convert the audio in the MKV using TSMuxer, but then I realized that TSMuxer doesn't directly output back to MKV. So I tried taking TSMuxer's output file(s) and muxing back into an MKV with MKVMergeGUI (MKVToolnix) but I was getting errors.

So in the midst of my ongoing edits to explain, I [snip]ped my reply until I could figure out for myself the easiest way to do it, but then I left it [snip]ped because I'm both not sure it's on-topic for this thread and because I haven't worked out the kinks for myself quite yet.

JEDIT: I suppose it would be (somewhat) on topic to ask the thread what program(s) we use. I imagine that TSMuxer alone would work fantastically to convert it to Bluray.

I still wonder if anyone has successfully created a Bluray menu for the MKV, even if the foreign tracks may not be included in it.

I like [snarf] better.

[snip]

Mackey256 said:

bradt

Rats. I may be totally out of luck here (unless I go for a hardware purchase). I did upgrade the firmware; no luck. Thanks for the info, though.

When I had my old computer setup I had problems playing back DTS-MA tracks all the time.  I was able to convert the DTS-MA tracks to DTS using TSmuxer with ease.  It might be worth a shot if the file is still giving you trouble.

TSMuxer, definitely. 

Also, one wonders if you have a smart TV, and if so what it supports.

Has anyone figured out how to make a Bluray menu for the converted MKV?

Last I remember us talking about it, there were too many audio tracks to include them all in the menu or something.

Danfun128 said:

chyron8472 said:

RU.08 said:

Why do people even bother downloading the AVCHD version if they don't know how to burn it? The MKV is higher quality and will play on any modern TV from a USB stick... surely people can work out how to do that!

 No it won't. Most things expect USB devices to be formatted as FAT32, and it has a 4GB file size limit.

Funny, from what I heard, FAT32's limit is 2 TB.

FAT32's partition size limit is 2TB. FAT32's individual file size limit is 4GB. This is why you can fit a DVD9 worth of data in standard DVD format onto a FAT32 file system, but not an AVCHD. DVD format splits up the .vob files into pieces, but an .m2ts on a bluray/AVCHD is not. Basically, it would only work if the MKV was split into multiple files that are each less than 4GB, since NTFS and exFAT aren't widely compatible formats (outside of computers).

It's amazing to me that someone would complain that people don't use a flash drive from which to watch the MKV when they haven't even tried (and failed) doing it for themselves.

Danfun128 said:

chyron8472 said:

Most things expect USB devices to be formatted as FAT32, and it has a 4GB file size limit.

 Funny, from what I heard, FAT32's limit is 2 TB.

 FAT32's partition size limit is 2TB. FAT32's individual file size limit is 4GB.

RU.08 said:

Why do people even bother downloading the AVCHD version if they don't know how to burn it? The MKV is higher quality and will play on any modern TV from a USB stick... surely people can work out how to do that!

 No it won't. Most things expect USB devices to be formatted as FAT32, and it has a 4GB file size limit.

Can anyone tell me what quality difference they notice between the MKV and the AVCHD?

That is, I haven't converted the MKV to a Bluray and am wondering if the difference (on a 42" LED TV) is distinguishable enough to warrant the expense of buying blank bluray discs.

DuracellEnergizer said:

LENS FLARE DOESN'T COUNT AS AN ABOMINATIONSABER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you just being a troll or what?

Get a grip. Seriously.

Kestrel said:

Erik Pancakes said:

Mine works just fine on my PS4.

What did you burn? The ~7GB AVCHD or the ~18GB MKV? Did you burn it onto a DVD-R DL or BD-R? What software did you use? If you used the MKV, did you convert it to a BDMV folder first, or are you just playing an MKV file that's on a disc (which the PS4 definitely wouldn't support, but many Blu-Ray players would)?

 Just for future reference, would a DVD DL still work on PS4?

Yes.

And also what's the difference between AVCHD and MKV? What would work for PS4? Sorry I'm so new to all this.

MKV is a video file format. The specifics of it (like how MKV is actually just a container) aren't important for what you're asking, but suffice it to say that standalone players may or may not be able to play video files--and then only specific file types. It depends on the player as to whether it can play files and, if so, which ones. But usually if people play video files, they do so from a plugged in flash drive or external hard drive (or copied to an internal hard drive as is the case with my PS3) instead of from a disc.

AVCHD, in a nutshell, is a limited bluray format. Basically, it's lower-bitrate, menuless HD video that can be played on most standalone bluray players but is small enough in size that it can fit onto a dual-layer DVD (DVD9).

AntcuFaalb said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

If the abominationsaber makes an appearance on any official poster art, I will mix up a batch of cement, throughly immerse my hair in it, run a length of chain through my hair, let the cement solidify, secure the other end of the chain to the back of the family pickup truck, and finally have someone take off at top speed up the driveway while I stand behind the truck, tearing all my hair and most of my scalp clean off in the process.

DuracellEnergizer said:

I'd call almost everyone currently in this thread a bunch of whiny bitches

 Speak for yourself.

I agree.

Why though did George decide to dub the PT aliens instead of subtitle them?

It makes Chewie, Greedo and Jabba look stupid since everyone can speak English but them (nevermind the Ewoks, since they've never encountered offworlders). Ooh... and it makes me wonder which they're going to do for the sequels.

DuracellEnergizer said:

chyron8472 said:

Now look, Star Trek fans have no idea what they want.

Oh, no? I have a pretty good idea what I want from Star Trek: strong characters, exploration of alien worlds, philosophical discussions, and no conceited Roddenberry-styled utopianism or stupid technobabble.

The TOS films, TOS itself, and -- to a somewhat lesser extent -- DS9 did the job for me in most regards, TNG ... not so much, the TNG films not at all, and I've never seen Voyager or Enterprise as I became sick and tired of Berman & Braga's take on Trek while watching TNG and have absolutely no wish to ever see them.

Anyway, I can say with certainty that what I want from Trek doesn't include Kirk being promoted from cadet to captain, Kirk acting like a douchebag, swollen hands, black holes made out of red paint, the Enterprise nacelles looking like giant hair dryers, Khan becoming a white Brit, Sylar fucking Uhura, and all the other shit I've read about Abramstrek.

 You read about?

So wait, let me get this straight: You love TOS and the the TOS movies; you kinda sorta maybe like a few DS9 episodes a bit; you don't like TNG much (likely based on watching the earlier seasons); you can't be bothered with Voyager or Enterprise; and you're making blanket judgements of the reboot movies based on internet fanboy rants that you've read regarding them and to how the aesthetic of the ship is not exactly the same.

Well, that certainly makes it easy to make a movie you'd enjoy in a franchise that contains hundreds of hours of onscreen content when when you only like maybe 15% of it. Considering there are 79 TOS episodes out of more than 700 episodes in the entire franchise.

I hate to break it to you, but the TOS show primarily consisted of variations on less than half a dozen plots: such as the ship getting captured or threatened; the crew getting captured or threatened; robots wanting to destroy the universe but being defeated by being told to destroy themselves first; the captain (or trio) getting stranded on a hostile planet; a handful of at-the-time culturally relevant plot topics; et al. Also, Chekov didn't appear until the second season (of 3), and Sulu, Uhura and Scotty only had minor bit parts compared to the almost constant screen presence of Kirk, Spock or McCoy.

So yes, let's not explore what actually could have happend to Kirk when he cheated on the Kobayashi Maru test, though Prime Kirk claims he was awarded for original thinking; let's not ask ourselves why Prime Spock would have joined a mostly human Starfleet when he dislikes his human side so much; let's not address that Prime Uhura made overt romantic advances toward Prime Spock more than a few times in TOS; and nevermind that the franchise needs new fans or that the Prime universe is so mired in its own continuity that it became hard to write a good story that didn't conflict with them in some way.

TV's Frink said:

Bingowings said:

The discussion is pertinent to the topic and there are other threads if you don't have anything to contribute or don't find reading what is being contributed to your interest.

 Some of us come into this thread expecting a discussion on Star Wars stereotypes and instead find a discussion about Kahn.

And some of us are actually furthering conversation in general instead of filling the thread with complaints. This is what real conversation does. It weaves in and out of a topic as other similarly relevant topics are brought to mind and subsequently mentioned.

Anyways, I thought Lucas had a pretty tight control over the production of things in the prequels. I mean, I haven't seen behind the scenes stuff for the prequels in ages, but I remember watching Returning to Jedi recently and Lucas telling people exactly how he thought the Sy Snoodles muppet should look and function. My general undertsanding of the prequels is that he had fewer people (perhaps no one) actually willing to criticize his decisions, so I would think that the exaggerated racial stereotyping in the prequels is due in no small directly to the choices George Lucas made.

imperialscum said:

OT with CGI would not be as great but still great.... while PT with real models would not be as shit but still shit. That's what I said.

 Speak for yourself. I refuse to watch Return of the Jedi if it has Jedi Rocks in it. Ruins the tone of the entire first act.

SilverWook said:

The first movie is good. STID is essentially Wrath of Khan Redux. ;)

 This.

Also: Now look, Star Trek fans have no idea what they want. When DS9 came out, people complained because it was a Babylon 5 ripoff and not enough like TNG. When Voyager came out, people complained that it was a TNG rehash and not culturally edgy like TOS was at the time TOS originally aired. When Enterprise came out, people complained it made too many references to the rest of the franchise (read:fan service).

Further, Enterprise was cancelled because the number of viewers was dropping. If Star Trek was to continue, it needed new fans. It needed a reboot. So, it got an alternate universe version of itself.

Nevermind my laying out how people complain about each 3D Zelda game in turn because they suddenly liked the previous one better. Trek fans just like to complain about JJ. Well, stop it. You can watch all the Prime-Trek you want on Netflix for 8 bucks a month and just not bother with the new movies.