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Harmy said:

Spaced Ranger said:

michaelkirschner said:

Did anybody notice that the Blu-ray insert for Star Wars says "two unforgettable droids RD-D2 and C-3PO"? Blu-ray insert

Nice catch! Apparently, no one else did. Harmy likes feedback to catch such mistakes.

Huh?

RD-D2

I still haven't made the time to catch up on this thread (premier last night, which was supposed to be the allotted time, whoops...). But I like the new colors for the Ben scene.

Harmy said:

And here's another one:

I was actually hoping to use this shot from the B&W deleted scene from the BD set but unfortunately after some tests I found it was way too blown out to be of any use.

You know, that blotchiness really annoyed me, but I assumed it was more accurate or something. Awesome dude! Looks like I'm gonna have to start obsessively following the thread again :)

J.J. Abrams should not be involved. I'm perfectly fine with him ripping off Star Wars for the rebooted Star Trek, but the man is overrated. Matthew Vaughn has been good in his collaborations with Bryan Singer - neither of them had anything to do with the god-awful X3 by Brett Rattner - but this talk of him being involved in a film worse than the prequels makes me uneasy. Spielberg, I think, isn't hungry enough to make a solid, non-sappy film anymore, though I love him to death and he's still an excellent filmmaker - just not the right fit. I vote we keep looking.

But as I said in the other thread, I'm very happy with the choice of Arndt as screenwriter. TS3 and LMS were very witty, highly entertaining films. The very least we could say is that the dialogue might not only not suck, but actually be solid, or even *gasp* memorable (in a good way!)

IMHO, this is excellent news. Those were two really great films. And his comments on it shows that he gets Star Wars.

buddy-x-wing said:

on a side note there has been no mention of the Clone Wars series in the deal and what will happen with Lucasfilm's Animation Division, I hope Filoni and his crew are somehow involved in the new trilogy as IMHO their attention to detail has really brought the series into line with the ideals of the original STAR WARS than what they originally were given to work with.

it's really that good? beats the now-buried Tartakovsky version?

Dale Pollock is now claiming he's read story treatments for 12 films. I dunno what to believe anymore...

I have not read the NJO except for Vector Prime, and concur that it's a terrible idea, after thinking about it a bit more. Better for the EU to become a parallel universe or something. I like Joss but I don't think he's an appropriate choice at all. Hopefully they don't give it to Abrams, either. (I mean the 2009 'Star Trek' was pretty good and actually pretty 'Star Wars'-y but...I dunno. Something just doesn't seem right about that prospect. The tone? I dunno.)

digitalfreaknyc said:

Some news....

Disney does NOT NOT NOT own the previous 6 films. They only have the rights to future films and to the characters themselves. They cannot do anything with the older films.

digitalfreaknyc said:

I thought Fox owned Ep. 4 in perpetuity?? no?

So I don't think this is true. Fox owns the distribution rights, which will eventually expire, according to this. While originally Fox also owned the copyright to 'Star Wars', this was traded to Lucasfilm sometime in the late 90s, probably in the deal that netted Fox distribution rights to the prequels. And if you check out any 2000+ release of 'Star Wars', it will be (c) Lucasfilm, not 20th Century Fox. Zombie wrote an article about all this here.

SilverWook said:

bilditup1 said:

SilverWook said:

Lucas specifically mentioned having written treatments for nine films in interviews given for the original making of ESB book.

I'm sure he did, but the man has changed his story so many times before and after that his credibility is questionable. I mean, look, I'm sure zombie pressed his case kind of hard, but it was still a compelling case. Or do you have an issue with his book/arguments?

I think the George Lucas of 1979/80 was a bit more unfiltered and less guarded than he is now. The whole book is an largely unvarnished look at ESB's production and where Lucas thought the saga was going. Even Carrie Fisher's drug problems are hinted at. For those reasons, I think it will remain forever out of print.

The only point I wanted to make is that Lucas isn't suddenly pulling a sequel out of his thermal exhaust port. There's a lot a material that has never seen the light of day.

I haven't read Zombie's book.

Hmm...even back then though, he was changing his story interview-to-interview, regardless of how unguarded he was. 

I suspect that if you did read zombie's book, you'd become far more skeptical of just how much content was out there. ( I did not read it critically because of how long it was; hopefully he cut it down to size and made it less redundant with the latest version.) It's only $10 for the ebook, though unfortunately it's only available from amazon. Much of the basic argument is available at his site, too. I would make it but I really need to go to sleep, and zombie is anyway reading the thread.

Anyway, thanks for clarifying where you're coming from.

Cobra Kai said:

Disney has already stated they plan to buy back the shares within two years, as per the investors conference call that they posted on their site today.

 

 

Never mind then. I knew I should have watched that conference call, heh. Thanks for setting me straight.

SilverWook said:

Lucas specifically mentioned having written treatments for nine films in interviews given for the original making of ESB book.

I'm sure he did, but the man has changed his story so many times before and after that his credibility is questionable. I mean, look, I'm sure zombie pressed his case kind of hard, but it was still a compelling case. Or do you have an issue with his book/arguments?

As I suspected, the entire EU is getting shitcanned.

http://www.eonline.com/news/358685/star-wars-7-plot-will-be-quot-an-original-story-quot-says-lucasfilm-source?cmpid=rss-000000-rssfeed-365-topstories&utm_source=eonline&utm_medium=rssfeeds&utm_campaign=rss_topstories

zombie84 said:

My own feeling is that this could be the best thing, because Disney has always been kind to its classics, has always marketed itself based on its legacy, and with Lucas out of the way--he's a creative consultant on the sequels, not on the companies business dealings--there's really nothing holding them back.

But Lucas will become Disney's second largest individual shareholder, after the family of Steve Jobs. (One thing nobody I've read seems to have pointed out is that this deal in some way reunites Lucasfilm with its' former computer graphics department, which ended up selling to Disney several years earlier for much more than Lucasfilm itself.)

Lucas' having such a large stake still carries a whole lot of weight, even if it isn't an outright veto (it's still just a small percentage of the company). Now, maybe there are elements within Lucasfilm who have wanted to get the OoT out that Lucas has thusfar vetoed, who will now have some breathing room. I doubt that these people could have gotten promoted in the organization if they felt that way openly though, considering Lucas' attitude though...so we'd have to hope that many there are people in the shadows who want this, or that the suits are willing to override Lucas' wishes. Otherwise...I dunno, I just don't see much of a reason to be hopeful.

The 2011 Blu-ray collection, btw, is billed as 'The Complete Saga'. I sincerely doubt that these talks have been in the works for more than a year, or that Lucas had any kind of story treatment for the third trilogy until very recently (you would have mentioned it in your book!)

Anchorhead said:

Alexrd said:

To me, anything Star Wars related...has to come from his mind

Considering I'm the polar opposite - I only follow\own\care about Star Wars that is non-Lucas - this has the potential to be positive.

Abrams got Star Trek back to it's roots, so maybe Disney can give the world something Star Wars other than the twirling colors, small galaxy, children's films that Lucas turned them into in 1983.

 

 

Side point - Abrams made Star Trek fun and interesting again, but brought it back to it's roots? Nah. He made it more like Star Wars (many parallels between the two films.)

I would be shocked if these films don't totally ruin the EU timeline and plot or had anything to do with it. If it did, then it would be set after everything.

Rinzler is a shill and tool, so that should come as no surprise. It doesn't change the fact that all the movies weren't written back to back to back in the mid 70s or some such nonsense, or refute the findings of zombie's excellent book. There was an extra treatment for an Episode VII that existed for however long and was worked on for however long;  Lucas, who spins this stuff constantly to fit his purposes at any given time - being seen as a mythmaker, giving more cachet to the 'six and only six' films of the Star Wars Saga, getting reporters and fans off his back for new movies and the like - misled everyone about it accordingly.

Mrebo said:

adywan said:

At first i was quite excited that there now may be a chance we could see a restored version of the OUT, but then realised that Disney owning the rights to the Star Wars franchise will probably spell the end of anything fan created as their lawyers will be ready to pounce

Very very good point. Lucas always had the virtue of being reasonable about copyright. Disney ownership is not good for us here.

Crap. Crap Crap Crap Crap Crap. Raining on the parade but def true

Someone might have said this already, but we should start a new petition directed at Walt Disney Studio Chief Alan Horn, Kathleen Kennedy, and Walt Disney Co CEO Bob Iger, stat

Woah...just...woah.

Ah good to see jack is still alive

I have no idea if the link are still up. I suggest you PM walkingdork to get a spleen invite

wbh said:

hey guys,

 

I have gotten onto myspleen but nothing is coming down the torrent for any of the star wars stuff. I have tried some others that seem to have worked. Is there a problem with it just now?

nope, no problem. learn how to open your ports (note that this is likely impossible at work or at universities); this will enable you to connect to more users (specifically, the ones who DON'T have their ports open). If you use bittorrent without issue other than on the spleen, then you know that your ISP is not shaping BT traffic. That's about all I could tell you

I was gonna give out free, unlabeled copies at Comic Con yesterday, but then noticed their stance on bootlegs and decided it wasn't worth risking getting booted from the con

CatBus said:

Actually some drives do allow you to do bitsetting permanently, not that it matters a great deal.  I do it just because you never know...

Right, of course. Back in the day I think this was the only way to get bitsetting to work. But who wants to deal with custom firmwares? And the market is much more fragmented than it was, so IMHO they are more difficult to find unless you get a popular drive