Perhaps retcon Tatooine’s sky as green?
Vaguest of ideas -
I saw the films BEFORE SUNRISE and BEFORE SUNSET recently, and was wondering about how the romance between Anakin and Padme might be a touch more convincing.
I think this would work in a PT that doesn’t contain TPM, so we start with an overhauled AOTC, and Episode III will likely be filled by a future anthology film.
So the basic premise is - we have Anakin and Padme MEET in AOTC. They have a short romance, but mutually decide, or realise it is impossible - and separate as the Clone Wars open.
The events of ROTS, which force Anakin to stay grounded on Coruscant, bringing the two together again after many years apart. The initially platonic relationship shifts as they can’t resist the revisiting the romance more completely, finally consummating their relationship - however Anakin’s slip to the Darkside ultimately stops it going any further.
She could be engaged to Bail Organa in some sort of classic aristocratic marriage. Anakin perhaps only finds out about the pregnancy being his as he chokes Padme, or it’s revealed at the very end of the film as he burns on the shores of Mustafar.
It would radically change their relationship - turning it from a marriage into more of a WHAT IF - the tragedy is possibly drawn now from Anakin not realising what good things he has until he’s crushed it.
I finally got round to watching your edits DigMod (cut opening RoR and HotF) - they’re great, really such an improvement. I’ll try and gather my thoughts into a tangible small review when I get chance.
David Lynch’s prequels?
I’ve been pondering whether the Death Star trench plot in ANH might have been intended to be anecdotal of Luke Skyhopping on Tatooine - and how those experiences indirectly equipped him for the battle of Yavin. You see this sort of thing alot in movies, and its a great way to sometimes make a convoluted victory seem believable (superhero films use it loads).
So - WHAT IF the intended (I assume it was intended) parallel between pod racing/space battle could be made more direct?
The pivotal point of the battle is Anakin flying into the droid control ship, and blowing up the reactor. Could this be made to seem more deliberate - and more believable? WHAT IF Anakin was to win the pod race by tactfully flying through a narrow alternative tunnel to slip past Sebulba? No idea how, but it might work?
Thanks for the replies!
ATMachine - I think what you are saying makes alot of sense, essentially something that was potentially conceived, maybe influenced other elements of the story, and then perhaps was dropped (but we still have it’s DNA in the story).
I didn’t want to make the comparison earlier, but had it been executed better, the podracing/space battle parallel would have been similar. It would have been nice to see Luke come up with an instinctive strategy with Biggs based on their experiences in Beggar’s Canyon - as you mentioned Silverwook, it would be really cool to see in a Luke centered Prequel Film.
I wonder if the intention of the Death Star trench was to mirror some prior anecdotal experience Luke had flying through canyons on Tatooine - that would indirectly equip him to fly in those conditions.
I know none were filmed, but were any Skyhopper scenes (that he references in the deleted Biggs scene) ever considered or planned?
I guess in its absence, we will always have that first level on REBEL ASSAULT - or this thing https://youtu.be/O1NpZxn860M?t=1m10s
I’ve got an idea. How about we all be happy when it’s released. Those who aren’t can go spend their precious time and money to fix all of what they think he did wrong. Welcome to fanediting.
It is a forum though…
I don’t know if this has been mentioned or recommended - but are there any plans to utilise R1 elements in the new edit? I’m not thinking intrusive stuff (ie Security Droids, Ships etc - although I would love to see that) - but more subtle elements like backgrounds within the Death Star.
The reason I bring this up, is I always felt the Death Star Bridge felt very dark, almost like a stage, whereas in R1 it is much better lit. I’d assume the R1 set was modeled very closely on the ANH version, so might be plausible to source from.
(as long as you don’t use “Rogue Two” for “A new Hope” 😃)
Actually Rogue Four does have a nice ring to it.
I think maybe Editroid missing the point where the subjective agenda we have here (ie favouring the OT), not what the general populous has who go on IMDB. One day there might be a PT.com that edits the OT to match the PT.
Just to play devils advocate - if the PT were really THAT awful, we wouldn’t feel they could be saved through the PREQUEL RADICAL REDUX thread. Right?
Oh, and it looks like there is a PT.com after all.
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I imagine you’ve seen all these already ADY, but others who haven’t been on the forum so long may have not seen them.
Years ago a member called SSWR made a bunch of small, yet effective, edit ideas. I didn’t manage to get hold of all of them before he took them offline, but there are some nice small ideas for ROTJ.
As far as ewoks are concerned - I like the idea that they are a thematic tool to take the rebels to the back door, and to act as a lure to the imperial forces.
It was joked around years ago that C3PO should be painted green perhaps - it seems oddly impractical to take a bright gold protocol droid to Endor when you’ve got the rest of the team wearing camouflage.
As Ender said, I feel that waiting to see what the various alternative Disney prequels deliver would be prudent. For instance if a new Kenobi Prequel is in the works, then that, as well as R1, could serve as material for EpIII etc.
^That is an interesting idea. The whole VOTE NOW senate scene could be the various systems picking their side perhaps (instead of the vote of no confidence). It could be reminiscent of Shakespeare’s Henry VI with the rose picking.
wasn’t episode I already shot in film?
Has anyone suggested changing Luke’s outfit in the final scene to a backless hospital gown?
Downloaded, watched and very pleased. Well done Adywan!
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I love this - it’d be interesting to assemble a rough cut to see if it works.
I had a dream last night that I was watching an editted ROTS where the editor had removed all hooks leading to the OT. So no Darth Vader transformation, no Luke birth, no Jedi Massacre etc.
The film opened with Obi-Wan hunting for grevious, the Utapau battle, then concluded with Palpatine’s resuce, and Anakin joining the Jedi Council.
I wonder if this could this ever work?
Essentially it might look like a PT that gives as much an ambiguous gap between the PT-OT as the new films do since the OT (ie no obvious set up or bridge).
TV’s Frink said:
Kids? This will give the parents nightmares.
This entire process has been a nightmare.
The entire planet is one big nightmare.
The entire nightmare is one big nightmare
The crawling hand almost has ‘post-credits’ scene potential really. If an editor was to explore that.
If you were going to merge ESB/ROTJ - then the old idea of having the DEATH STAR only partially explode in ANH, and then later get fully annhilated in the third film could be explored.
I like the idea of Biggs being explored more. Pretty hefty stuff though. I was actually expecting Diego Luna’s character in R1 to be Biggs in the promo photos.
My issue with the construction, is its placement in the film. Other Star Wars films don’t really have ‘destination’ endings like ROTS does - they just conclude the plots of their individual movie, and we have the set up for the following film in the crawl.
It does just come down to what agenda you want you perfect PT to have. For me, I’d like equally ambiguous sequential films that run I-VI, and just pretend they were planned and made in that order. ROTS in reality was created with the Vader payoff in mind.
It wouldn’t be hard to re-edit.
As far as I remember -
- Mustafar duel ends when the gantry collapses, Obi Wan rises to his feet on the lava bank, and just observes Anakin’s burnt crushed body under the gantry wreckage as he walks away.
- Padme gives birth on Alderaan - but you only see one child.
- Obi-Wan reluctantly takes the child (I think it was implied he was stealing him), and flies away into space in Grevious’ fighter.
And that’s it - open ended ending. It felt like an actual film, instead of a prequel spoon feeding the audience into IV.