Maybe a 50% mix works even better, what do you think?
Maybe a 50% mix works even better, what do you think?
Watched the whole regraded movie, and it surprisingly (even to me!) worked very well!
Despite the cool tints seen in the comparison, I didn’t expect it to be quite warm indeed; every shot was spot on, color wise, in particular of course the “water” planet - the blue cast added to many IMAX shot helped a lot there.
take a look at the comparison for the whole movie
Started a new thread with comparisons for whole movies:
Are you curious to see the differen color grading, or aspect raio, of a movie, but don’t want to watch it all? Well, just take a look at “a whole film in an image” GIFs and screenshot comparisons!
(warning: big images, it could take some time to load’em all!)
Title (year) [project] - differences - release date - GIF image - comparison link
Alien (1979) [Fundamental Collection #001] - colors, 85% of movie with bigger frame - 2017-04-18
Aliens (1986) [Fundamental Collection #002] - colors - 2017-04-19
Alien³ (1992) [Fundamental Collection #003] - colors - 2017-04-20
Alien: Resurrection (1997) [Fundamental Collection #004] - colors - 2017-04-21
AVP: Aliens Vs. Predator (2004) [Fundamental Collection #012] - colors - 2017-05-17
The Arrival (1996) [Fundamental Collection #008] - colors - 2017-04-01
The Chronicles of Riddick (2004) [Fundamental Collection #011] - open matte - 2017-05-09
Halloween (1978) [Fundamental Collection #006] - colors - 2017-03-07
Interstellar (2014 - colors - unreleased
Minority Report (2002) [Fundamental Collection #007] - colors - 2017-03-11
The Mummy (2017) [spoRv] - colors, 5% of movie desubbed - 2017-07-24
The Thing (1982) [Fundamental Collection #005] - colors - 2017-03-01
Timeline (2003) [Fundamental Collection #010] - open matte - 2017-04-13
Waterworld (1995) [Fundamental Collection #009] - colors - 2017-04-05
Wonder Woman (2017) [spoRv] - colors, 5% of movie desubbed - 2017-07-21
if someone would like to add his project comparison images here, just write the link of the comparison in the comment.
Although some scenes would have unnatural colors, we are talking about a film, so… if you think about it, maybe 90% of action Hollywood movies released in the latest years have some (or all) of them!
According to my (brief) tests, it seems to work well, but I should watch the whole movie (still encoding) - even if, to be honest, after few minutes the brain “set up” the white point, so it will say to my eyes it is OK, even if it’s not… 😄
70mm cells: I took your picture as inspiration because, reading what you wrote about, it should look like a lot close as it is when watched live; but don’t know about those other cells, tough… pretty sure they were scanned without too much care, so can’t be trusted as color reference, unless the scanner have done a good job like you, and wrote about it!
Nevertheless, it would be nice to have a look at them, and maybe discover that they match your 70mm one!
Lately I’ve tinkered with few “de-tealized” projects, and learned some new techniques; so, I’ve decided to give Interstellar a go…
The “inspired by 70mm” is a color grading made in Avisynth - no LUTs or color matching; I could make it even closer to 70mm, but in that case there would be white clipping, so I’ve chosen the best compromise, and it works well, it seems:
take a look at the comparison for the whole movie:
I’ve also compared it to the camrip - that is faaar to be considered a color reference; indeed, “as is”, it’s different (a lot) from BD and regrade; when adjusted (saturation lowered, magenta blanket removed, levels tweaked), it resemble sometimes the BD, sometimes the regrade, sometimes neither… and it happens also for subsequent shots - I suspect the autowhite and/or autogain are involved. But the fact that often is closer to the regrade than the BD, and that some members remembers (pun intended!) the colors in the theater to be closer to the 70mm scan may means it “could” be “right” - somehow…
I’m perfectly aware that it almost never happen that a single regrade setting works for a whole movie, but in this case it seems to work; still to watch it all, but I’ve tested few shots, and they look good; preparing a low def version and I’ll watch it in the next few hours, then I’ll write my conclusions.
I know that for each project (and one complex like yours in particular) there are so many thing you have to check/tweak/test etc. - but it improves with time and experience, usually… 😄
Clipped white: I’ve seen it, but, as there are “nothing” to recover there, the only solutions I can think of are
I liked it! Can’t remember the original version exactly - I watched it few years ago - but your version worked very well, as it’s seamless (apart the repeated frame that was fixed as you wrote); that’s a bit like the best CGI effect, when you can’t say if/when it was used - it means it works!
colors: I like them!
subtitles: I like them out of the picture - probably I’m one of the few, though… don’t know if you plan to hardcode them, but I’ll go soft.
problem: the first shot after the credit (the car) is affected by deinterlacing artefacts.
hint: I’d stretch horizontally the first credits - the one you used with starfield as background - to resamble better the following credits font size and aspect ratio.
Originally it was:
but sadly after the forum update, it ended up as it is now… 😦
Indeed, it’s not even possible to type it here, hence the image!
I use BetterNet - it “seems” to have no bandwidth limit!
If someone could provide the complete replacement audio for the sandstorm deleted scene - even simple stereo - I’ll be really happy! 😄
Use a VPN and MegaSync, and when the limit occours, disconnect and reconnect (always through VPN) to get a new IP, and no waiting time.
I read the description, but it seems there is not the needed deleted scene - the sandstorm.
I was sure the LD had a different color grading; lately, another member did a capture and discover that it is identical to DVD, so at the moment there are two official gradings, LD/DVD/HDTV (open matte, don’t know if exists an OAR version) and BD/HD-DVD.
There is an HDTV version (ABC logo, 720p IIRC) with 1.66:1 AR floating around…
Don’t know if there is an entire post focused on this, but I think it would be great to gather info about HDTV versions - while many are identical to the BD, some could be different (better, perhaps).
Nope, it is just in a light coma… 😄
Can’t remember the original (a direct comparison would help), but this is very nice!
Try to increase saturation and/or red channel, or also add an orange blanket.
While original is too hot, with that teal sky and orange sand, your version is still too cold - we are in the desert, after all!
Try something in between - can’t say exactly 50/50, but certainly it need to be warmer. IMHO of course!
Too hot here to have the brain working right… seems to be on Tatooine… 😄
Let’s wait for a lower, human-compatible temperature!
The whole wormhole sequence has me scratching my head. On the secrets of Stargate CD-rom there is an Extended wormhole sequence (original animation) but it is running at 20fps with frame drops.
It’s always possible to create missing frames using interpolation - sometimes it works really well… you can give it a try!
IIRC the best versions are NTSC for EP 4 and 5, and PAL for EP 6.
At least, EP 4 on NTSC has a bigger frame: http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/215194
A lot of updates… but I post regularly on fanres - go there to read about these.
Exporting it with Audacity as WAV (Microsoft) PCM 16bit should work…