Zyrother

Good to know. Very excited to see the results!

Thank you!

I'm surprised that the increase to 1920x816 actually reduces aliasing more. I would think an increase in resolution that much would actually make the aliasing worse/ more visible. Or does your script just handle it better at that resolution?

It probably would be best to get a full version out soon like you said. As there may be some unforeseen problems later in the film. Having multiple people scrutinize the film will allow for a comprehensive analysis of it.

I think there is merit to a '1080P' version! '720P' is just too small of a resolution to be very effective today. But considering the source, it does really well!

The reaction to SRv10 has been incredible so far. I don't think people will get out the torches and pitchforks if this is the version you stick with. :P

You did an excellent job! I think people are going to really like this upscale!

Wow, did not expect that much reduction in the aliasing. Must be magic, only explanation. :P Detail still looks awesome, only very negligible detail loss in a couple areas that I saw.

Looking forward to the video sample too!

Sorry about the double post, the page crashed on me, and I thought it did not go through. >.< Really sorry

Wow, did not expect that much reduction in the aliasing. Must be magic, only explanation. :P Detail still looks awesome, only very negligible detail loss in a couple areas that I saw.

Looking forward to the video sample too!

I think it is quite beneficial to have both upscales so people can choose. From the evidence, its very clear that it will be impossible to achieve perfect detail, and remove all the aliasing.

In the end, I think the ultimate goal of proving Super Resolution as a viable upscale method for the GOUT has proven to be very successful. Plus, LaserDisc Masters MagicSR has provided impressive results too!

@AntcuFaalb

Good to know. Thank you very much! :)

For some reason I thought the subtitles were on the picture, and the black bars. Sorry about that.

So if those Technidisc pressings are not very good, which Laserdisc set would be considered the best/ most appropriate for this type of upscale?

Thanks for all the info! :)

That 1989 'Special Widescreen Edition' Laserdisc set had that ridiculous Shrinking Aspect Ratio problem, which I believe was quietly corrected in 1993 and released with the same artwork and stuff. Isn't that fixed 1993 set considered the best American/NTSC set? Even better than the DC?

I also see the 1986 Japan widescreen set mentioned a ton as the definitive release of the OOT. But, from a restoration/upscale point, we then have to contend with Japanese subtitles.

I'd love to read that entire thread, but there is a ton there. One day. :P

@DrDre

That makes sense. Its better to have more detail, and just try to ignore the aliasing as opposed to losing detail, and having less aliasing.

@thorr

LaserDisc capture is a very delicate, and tedious process to get the most quality. But the amount of time and work to get the perfect capture would not be ideal in this situation. But, it would have much less aliasing, and noise too.

I think LaserDisc Master is the guy to ask on this. I have a strange feeling that he is knowledgeable in this area :D

Looking excellent as always! Color, contrast, and the AR seem great!

With the increase in detail, the poor quality grain field is very apparent now. The noise reduction wiped away the thick, front layer noise/grain, but it revealed the frozen and ugly grain layer underneath. Its a common thing because DVDs simply cant handle the grain field. The grain should dance and swirl around. It does slightly, but no where near it should.

Again, I feel that some of the aliasing is not as apparent as in earlier version of SR.  Progress is definitely being made!

Any progress on implementing those AA scripts others have been posting? Their enthusiasm for those techniques/scripts seem very promising.

In my opinion, the softness will help alleviate the aliasing, and reduce some of the noise.

But the question is how soft is acceptable without compromising quality.

*Edit* Never mind, those comparisons were from the Spline64 images. Still, it is important to balance sharpness and softness.

@ DrDre

It seems like the most difficult thing is to create a script that gives consistent results across the entire film. Some areas may look fantastic, but others may not change that much, or in the worst case, actually look worse than before.

An exercise in patience is what it has come down too. :P

DrDre said:

@ zee944

Due to the filtering a tiny amount of detail is lost. This frame always had a relatively small amount of visible grain due to the dark background. For light backgrounds the difference is pretty obvious though. I'll post an example later. 

 A really good example I saw was when R2 and C-3PO wake up in the Sandcrawler. Its quite dark, but the grain and noise is nowhere near as heavy as the desert scenes. This was just the raw GOUT, straight from the DVD.

@DrDre

That is a perfect compromise. Should make everyone happy then! :D

The comparisons are good! While the resolution is of course, no where near the 35mm, it does allow for minor detail comparisons. Such as as the comparisons of frame 22309. In the LaserDisc upscale, you can see the individual sand 'ripples', whereas the 35mm scan, it is somewhat obscured. That may be because the color is quite faded, and it took those details with it. But as of now, there are areas where MagicUP actually does have more detail!

Although I suspect that once color correction begins on the 35mm scan, a lot more detail will be restored.

Very impressive. Great detail and clarity. The aliasing doesn't draw my eyes to it nearly as much. I hardly notice it. Big step up from the previous 10 minute sample.

By far, the best presentation yet! :)

_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

MP4 and MKV are only containers, so you could remux video and audio with no quality loss; my advice is to use TSmuxer and remux the mkv to m2ts, like I usually do.

 Will do, thanks!

Edit: Works perfectly. PS3 streams it no problem! :D

DrDre said:

I think the grain reduction came out really well. There is enough grain reduction, that it looks much cleaner, and that it brings out the color, but not so much that it looks smeared out or painted. What do you think? (if there is anyone left on this thread ;-))

Quick question.

 I like streaming videos with my PS3, and onto my 1080P TV. The PS3 cant read mkv files, so would the conversion to Mp4 reduce the quality? I am just using Windows Movie Maker to convert it. I'm not terribly knowledgeable in such things. Sorry. :P

It would be easier for me to judge the quality if I was to watch with the equipment I normally watch films.

If you have easy access to either TeamBlu's video, or screenshots, make the comparisons. But if you have to grill somebody for any footage/ screenshots, lets not, as we don't want to upset anyone.

I think the comparisons would greatly benefit the development of the SR script, but if it means ticking somebody off, its not worth it then.

Mackey256 said:

TeamBlu set the standard for GOUT upscales with their phenomenal Star Wars releases.

There is great work going on here and it's only natural to want to compare it to what has been done before.  When doing that why not compare it to what the community has decided is the best looking upscale done to date?

 Agreed. In no way is the intention to compete with TeamBlu's work, merely to supplement it as an alternative upscale, which others may judge for themselves.

The goal is to find the potential strengths of Super Resolution, and engage in community collaboration to improve upon the strengths of Super Resolution, and debate on what aspects work, or dont work. 

Given that this source is of better quality than say something like the GOUT, I feel that aliasing/jagged lines would be less of an issue. I haven't seen much of this source, so I cant judge.

I wait with great anticipation! :D

I can definitely see the detail improvement in the MagicUP. it is subtle, but an improvement nonetheless!

Letterboxing, so glad we are done with those days.

Still a few movies that are held back by it though. True Lies and The Abyss come to mind. But the GOUT is by far the most famous, and detested.

Must...resist...rant... :P