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<strong>The Book Of Boba Fett</strong> (live action series) - a general discussion thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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canofhumdingers said:

ZkinandBonez said:

canofhumdingers said:

I think a big issue I have with Boba Fett’s characterization here is that he keeps saying he’s the ruler (daimyo) and that he wants to rule with respect, but he shows almost zero leadership in pretty much every situation where leadership, strength, and decisiveness are needed or appropriate (especially if he wants to establish himself as the guy in charge).

When people complain he seems too weak, it’s not because of his success or failure in battle. It’s his absolutely wishy-washy lack of any real leadership skills.

There’s a such thing as “tough but fair” which is what Fett needs to be (and I think what we all anticipated). But so far he really isn’t.

And it’s especially jarring since that is the characterization we saw with his appearances in Mando and it was fantastic.

I don’t get this, are you saying he was a good leader in his appearances in The Mandalorian season 2? Because I don’t see it. He ordered Fennec around a bit, but that’s about it. They served as temporary killers for hire as they (or rather just Fett) owed Din a debt. Fett was briefly doing what he’s always done, kill for someone else, though obviously for a noble cause this time. Now in BOBF he’s trying to run a small criminal empire (though that’s probably just a facade for an ulterior motive) which involved a entirely different set of skills.

No, the lack of leadership is a general complaint about the way his character is written on this show specifically. Although his indecisiveness plays a huge part in that lack of leadership and that particular aspect (indecision) does run contrary to what we saw in Mando.

But what I was really referring to with my last paragraph was the tough-but-fair issue. In Mando he seemed to be going down a path of becoming like a typical John Wayne character: tough as nails and harsh on the surface, but with a deep sense of loyalty, respect, and true kindness (not surface politeness, but the kind of guy who would sacrifice anything to help someone he deemed worthy of that help). The kind of guy who would exhibit “tough love” like immediately throwing a kid in a lake upon finding out the kid hasn’t learned how to swim yet.

But the Fett we’re getting comes across as MUCH softer than that. Too much, IMO (and apparently plenty of others). We were hoping for a grittier, rougher “nice guy”. And it’s worth noting despite his desire to be nice and respectful, he is still trying to be an organized crime boss!! He just seems too soft, indecisive, and lacking in leadership to succeed in that role so far.

Ah, fair enough, I see what you mean, though I still can’t say completely I agree. Actually I would personally say that the gritty but good John Wayne type character you described fits the new Boba Fett quite well. Now I agree that that in the “present” storyline there’s been a lot of Fett being disrespected by others and him not retaliating which makes him seem quite weak compared to what we’re used to, but I do feel like this is intentional by Favreau as Fett’s trying to be a better person (Bib and the Pykes are bad guys after all, but killing the majordomo f.ex. would just be cruel).

Who knows, maybe I’ll be wrong on this down the line, but I think this is going to change in future episodes as he starts to build his entourage. The tough-but-fair behaviour you mentioned I felt was present in the 2nd episode after the train heist, though I can see how his behaviour seemed a tad too soft in ep. 1 & 3 (especially in the “present” scenes). It could maybe be Rodriguez’s direction that’s an issue and/or maybe too much of Morrison’s real personality is slipping through. I personally find this a minor annoyance–and only in a few moments at that–and I think the writing has been handling it quite well overall. Hopefully this will change down the line, and I think it will. We’ve already seen some tough-guy moments and I’m sure we’ll get more both in the past and present story-lines, especially the latter as that seems to become more in focus.

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canofhumdingers said:

I think a big issue I have with Boba Fett’s characterization here is that he keeps saying he’s the ruler (daimyo) and that he wants to rule with respect, but he shows almost zero leadership in pretty much every situation where leadership, strength, and decisiveness are needed or appropriate (especially if he wants to establish himself as the guy in charge).

When people complain he seems too weak, it’s not because of his success or failure in battle. It’s his absolutely wishy-washy lack of any real leadership skills.

There’s a such thing as “tough but fair” which is what Fett needs to be (and I think what we all anticipated). But so far he really isn’t.

And it’s especially jarring since that is the characterization we saw with his appearances in Mando and it was fantastic.

I don’t get this, are you saying he was a good leader in his appearances in The Mandalorian season 2? Because I don’t see it. He ordered Fennec around a bit, but that’s about it. They served as temporary killers for hire as they (or rather just Fett) owed Din a debt. Fett was briefly doing what he’s always done, kill for someone else, though obviously for a noble cause this time. Now in BOBF he’s trying to run a small criminal empire (though that’s probably just a facade for an ulterior motive) which involved a entirely different set of skills.

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MalaStrana#2 said:

Damn I wish we got a badass Boba into action around the Galaxy…

That would be one of the most non-SW things for them to do. People seem to forget that characters like bounty hunter Boba Fett were minor side characters in a good vs evil story. Vader was the villain in said good vs evil story, etc. yet so many seem to want to just see the villains go around doing cool (or quite frankly villainous) things in the SW universe. I can see this working as a game, and stuff like this has been done in comic book one-offs and the occasional novel, but I fail to see where there’s a SW series in this?

Fett is trying to reinvent himself within a framework that he’s at least familiar with, hence taking over as Daimyo, but we’re still less than half-way through so we don’t even know how its going to end up. Even one of the cyborg bikers called him out by calling him “just another mob boss” (or something to that effect) and he seems to be constantly learning as the show progresses.

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What is your main way of watching the Original Trilogy?
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Mocata said:

I used to just watch the GOUT versions until I figured out how to see what Harmy was making. Which means I haven’t had to suffer through the SE changes since 2006. What a relief. I’d probably check out other versions that came straight from existing prints but I just don’t have the hardware or know-how, but that’s okay.

Not being very tech-savy myself I too was a bit intimidated by how complex it seemed to download the 4K scans, but it really just boils down to downloading a free program, copy-pasting a code from a list and waiting for the films to download to your PC. The only hardware requirements boils down to how much storage space you have.

As great as Harmy’s work is I have to say that the 4K versions have become my ultimate go to versions. They really look fantastic. And the fully cleaned up version of ESB should be done some time this year.

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Mrebo said:

timdiggerm said:

So…

Why is Boba doing this stuff? Why did he go back to Tatooine, kill Bib and declare himself Daimyo? It doesn’t take much Wikipedia to confirm that, in feudal Japan, daimyo served under shogun. If that applies here, who was Jabba’s shogun???

As I said I’m enjoying it but his motivations aren’t being done justice by the story. I’m hopeful it will be fleshed out. I can rationalize that he’s older, went through trauma, etc but the story should make his motivations more central. He could do anything, so why Tatooine?

Because of the Tuskens I’d imagine. He’s already had a vision related to the planets history, carved his own gaffu stick, joined a tribe, etc. not to mention that it is the site of both of his figurative rebirths. I’d say the planet has become his new home. And I’m sure well get even more with him and the Tuskens in future episodes.

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GuardianoftheWhills said:

ZkinandBonez said:

GuardianoftheWhills said:

Also, it’s really striking how much of the praise for the show is focused on fan service. But it’s not a substitute for a strong narrative and risks turning Star Wars into a zombie franchise.

I can’t speak for others, but I’m not enjoying the show so far because of fan service but because I think it has so far has been an interesting character story and I hope it will continue to be so. Sure, not every SW story needs to be a redemption arc, but it is very baked into the DNA of the franchise and I don’t think a series where Boba Fett is just a ruthless bounty hunter would be all that interesting. A character driven series needs more depth than that, and based on what we’ve been give so far I think we’ll get it.

Just because we’ve gotten one mediocre episode with some wonky effects and action I don’t think there’s any need to panic. I mean we’re not even halfway through the series yet.

We’ve had two mediocre episodes - 1 & 3.

To each their own, I think the first episode was a solid introduction to the show and much better than what The Mandalorian did with it’s first episode. It wasn’t fantastic, but it was entertaining and a good set-up for what was (and still is) to come.

GuardianoftheWhills said:

Where is this interesting character story? Can you explain why you think it is compelling? In what way do you think this is adding to the characterisation of Boba Fett?

Why does a supposedly ruthless bounty hunter who’s been left for dead in the stomach of a monster and then experienced the loss of his new tribe want to rule with ‘respect’ (especially when almost everyone around him blatantly disrespects him)? Why doesn’t he want to get revenge or at least impose order? That would at least be consistent with his characterisation prior to this show. Why is he seemingly so naïve?

Isn’t revenge and imposing order more or less what he’s trying to do? And again, we’re only three episodes in, so we don’t know how he’s going to treat the Nikto swoop gang or the Pykes, but based on the Tosche station scene and the train heist I can’t imagine it will be peaceful.

And why wouldn’t being swallowed by a monster and being left for dead give someone a second look at life? I think it’s time we accept that the ‘Man with No Name’ archetype that we saw in the 80’s doesn’t really exist anymore after Lucas changed (or rather created) Fett’s origin with AOTC, and it is this version the show is based on. We have someone who was raised by a bounty hunter–raised to follow in his footsteps, who then saw him killed before him, tried to avenge his death and failed, and who ended up spending the rest of his childhood living with criminals in the dingiest parts of the galaxy. Not to mention spending time in prison as a teenager. This guy has had a very tough life with a lot of conflicting morals, and after his humiliation during the fighting at Jabba’s sailbarge and his humbling experiences with the Tuskens he’s had what I feel is a very natural change of heart.

And let’s not forget that his solution to all of this is still effectively to become a better crime lord, so its not like he’s gone full hero-mode yet. He’s still interpreting things through the lens of a life lived surrounded by criminals, but his motivations are generally noble now and he’s not just looking out for himself anymore. The Tuskens became the family he needed and he saw how strong they were as a group, a new thing to someone who’s had to fend for himself since he was a child. Their brutality was something he could relate to, but the tribe mentality was something he never got with his fellow bounty hunters and criminals. (There’s even a TCW episode where his bounty hunter “friends” leave him behind to save themselves which results in him ending up in jail as a teenager.)

As for Fett being naïve, well, he’s been a killer for hire most of his life, and it’s not like he should know how to be a crime boss just because he’s worked for several of them, and he’s trying to do it in an unconventional manner as well. It’d have been pretty silly if he was just instantly good at it considering his background and his current motivations.

GuardianoftheWhills said:

I cannot think of any well regarded series where the plot is as aimless as this. It’s like watching a Star Wars screensaver.

At least BOBF is focused on the main character unlike something like The Witcher which seems hellbent on being about almost anyone but the titular character. And although BOBF is less episodic than The Mandalorian I still feel like I’m getting more out of each episode than I did watching something like GOT, which felt more like a 300 hour movie split into unstructured segments. Now I don’t watch too many new series, so maybe I’m missing out on some masterpieces, but BOBF has, despite its flaws (and again we’re not even halfway through the series), managed to engage me more than most new TV series that I’ve seen.

GuardianoftheWhills said:

Episode 2 showed this could be better - I want it to be better. But even a good director can only take a story so far if the writing isn’t up to scratch.

We shouldn’t have to wade through an hour of mediocrity in the hope later episodes might be better. There are only seven episodes - they should all be high quality. If the producers can’t manage that then they should cut the number of episodes.

I still don’t see what was so bad about episode 3. Less good than the previous two–especially chapter 2, yes, but even the slow speeder chase was still leagues ahead of the kind of VFX that would have even been possible a little over ten years ago on a TV budget.

And I don’t consider it filler either. Episode 1 was Boba Fett earning the respect of the Tuskens while failing to earn it in the present. Episode 2 was Fett becoming a member of the Tusken tribe and setting himself up as someone who fights for others rather than simply himself. Episode 3 is Fett taking the first steps in successfully leading with respect and starting to build up his new “family”. I’d say this series is more structured than many popular modern TV series and that it has a reasonable pacing for a miniseries.

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GuardianoftheWhills said:

Also, it’s really striking how much of the praise for the show is focused on fan service. But it’s not a substitute for a strong narrative and risks turning Star Wars into a zombie franchise.

I can’t speak for others, but I’m not enjoying the show so far because of fan service but because I think it has so far has been an interesting character story and I hope it will continue to be so. Sure, not every SW story needs to be a redemption arc, but it is very baked into the DNA of the franchise and I don’t think a series where Boba Fett is just a ruthless bounty hunter would be all that interesting. A character driven series needs more depth than that, and based on what we’ve been give so far I think we’ll get it.

Just because we’ve gotten one mediocre episode with some wonky effects and action I don’t think there’s any need to panic. I mean we’re not even halfway through the series yet. Yes, it is completely possible that this entire series was something of an afterthought and a necessary filler in between season 2 and 3 of The Mandalorian, but if that’s the case then I’m only more impressed by it.

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MalaStrana#2 said:

Rodney-2187 said:

Perhaps Mos Espa is the Star Wars equivalent of Dubai. The chase did look slow though.

On a social level, it’s the complete opposite though. The SW equivalent of Dubai is more Coruscant.

Huh? Wouldn’t New York be a better comparison? Coruscant is more than just tall buildings, it’s primarily a giant slum with some rich neighborhoods as well as important trade and political centers.

Mos Espa and Dubai is’t the most accurate comparison either though, but Mos Espa in TPM and BOBF definitely gives the sense of somewhere more important than what we’ve seen elsewhere on Tatooine. Mos Eisley was a somewhat important–although still minor–spaceport, while Mos Espa is the city that seems to have the most contact with the larger galaxy, which allows for it to have a certain sense of wealth and minor glamour. It is after all also the place where the Boonta Eve race takes place.

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Mrebo said:

Rodney-2187 said:

I love the majordomo’s speeder.

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Agree! Good design decision.

This was the weakest episode. The swoop gang aesthetically reminds me of something out of contemporary Doctor Who and doesn’t feel genuine on Tatooine nor fit with what those characters are supposed to be. On Coruscant this aesthetic could work.

I can’t image Coruscant would be the best place to be at this point in the SW timeline, so maybe they’ve gone to the outer rim to try their luck (and clearly not finding it). Things should have calmed down a little bit by this point, but it’s still only 5 years after ROTJ, so 2-3 years or so after the rebels retook Coruscant and the core worlds…I think. I’m not too sure about the canon timeline, but I that should be roughly correct.

We might get an explanation about where the cyborgs are actually from in later episodes, but everything about them seems to suggest that they have not been on Tatooine for than than a few years at the very most.

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Chase Adams said:

Darth Muffy said:

and those bright space Vespas what were they thinking 🤨

I’ve seen literally everyone say this.

I’m probably the only person outside of the show’s creators that likes them.

So they don’t fit in with Tatooine’s aesthetic… Who’s to say they’re even from Tatooine?

As I mentioned earlier, based on their British accents, their fancy clothing (which reminded me a bit of Canto Bight), they probably blew all their money on cybernetics and ended up stuck on Tatooine. I also get the impression that cybernetics probably isn’t a common place thing on Tatooine, plus they are a biker gang, so they probably travel from place to place.

I also think that when most people think of Tatooine they think of the Lars’s Farm or Mos Eisley, all of which are fairly small places on an already unimportant planet. Mos Espa on the other hand is as “modern” and interplanetary as Tatooine gets, so although it’s hardly Coruscant, it’s the place where’d you expect to see the most diverse crowd. And even Mos Eisley had quite the variety of humans and aliens in ANH, though it seems like Mos Espa has become the new hot spot after Jabba’s death.

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As per usual StarWarsExplained does a great job at verbalizing the themes explored in Favreau’s writing and although episode 3 was a bit underwhelming on the action side of things, it was a good continuation of the overall narrative and Fett’s character arc;

The Book of Boba Fett Chapter 3 - The Streets of Mos Espa Episode Review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb_KLzHYMjk - by StarWarsExplained (10 mins long)

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BTW, I’m rewatching the episode and I just noticed that the painting that one of the cyborg bikers crashes through while chasing the Majordomo is this concept art by Ralph McQuarrie for ROTJ (only with Luke removed and Threepio changed to silver).

I’m also starting to wonder where the cyborg gang is supposed to be from. I’ve already seen some complaints (outside this forum) that they don’t look OT enough, which I do kind of agree with, though we have seen designs like this elsewhere in the franchise. But they do seem quite out of place on Tatooine, and they all have British accents. I can’t imagine that shiny “upgrades” like theirs is something one could easily get on Tatooine either.

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Rodney-2187 said:

That fight with Black Krrsantan was intense! What a way to be woken up! I’m sure setting him free will work to Boba’s advantage just as it did with the Gamoreans and the cyborg bikers. How did Krrsantan get in though? Do we fully trust Fennec?

I had that same thought about Fennec watching the episode today. She did technically save Krrsantan’s life when one of the cyborg bikers was about to shoot him. She was quite a devious character in “The Gunslinger” so if someone gives her a better offer or Fett seems to be outgunned at some point she might turn against him, that is if she’s not already a “double agent” of sorts. We don’t really know too much about her motivations at this point other than her vague life-debt to him. Of course she wasn’t all that bad in The Bad Batch so maybe she’ll stay loyal, especially now as Fett’s forces keep growing.

I wonder if all the crazy stuff that’s been alluded to by Rodriguez in interviews might literally be Boba Fett riding a Rancor with an army of Tuskens, and maybe even Black Krrsantan on his side? We’re only three episodes in and already he’s built up an pretty colourful entourage.

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Episode 3 wasn’t exactly the most exciting episode, but it was the first time I felt really engaged with the “present” part of the story and there’s a lot of interesting ideas being set-up here. This is the first time we see Fett actually ruling with respect (unless you count him sparing the two Gamorreans) and having it actually work out.

I am a little concerned about how three episodes in we’re still not quite sure who the main villains are, but this could also be a build-up to something very big. It does make sense that there’d be multiple factions for Fett to have to deal with and it seems like the series is now shifting their focus more to the “present” and we’re not even half-way through the series yet.

Also, seeing as Rodriguez is a co-producer on this show it was only a matter of time before Danny Trejo showed up.

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<strong>The Acolyte</strong> (live action series set in The High Republic era) - a general discussion thread
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Rodney-2187 said:

ZkinandBonez said:

Has there been any official statement about the exact year in the canon that this show will take place? It just occurred to me that since Yoda is in the High Republic books, and will appear in the Eclipse game, he might also make an appearance in this as well. Frank Oz is still alive and well, and he’s already returned as both voice actor and puppeteer in TLJ (and of course there’s Grogu as well), so maybe we’ll get to see a younger Yoda in live action?

I think it’s said to be near the end of the High Republic era, so not long before The Phantom Menace I would guess. The term “acolyte” combined with the slashed logo gives me Sith vibes. I know it’s said in TPM that the Sith have been gone for a millennium, but we all know they weren’t truly gone. They say “keep yout friends close, and your enemies closer.” Maybe they were closer all along than anyone expected. Can’t wait to find out more.

Well, if it’s within a century or so it could always be about a failed apprentice of Plagueis before he eventually discover Palpatine on Naboo. If it’s within a few centuries before TPM then I suppose it could just as well tell the story of someone before Plagueis.

Is the term Dark Jedi still canon? The ST did give us non-Sith darksiders so I suppose there’s plenty of options here either way. I do like the Sith cultist idea that was mentioned earlier, reminds me of Tavion in Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy or Exar Kun in the Tales of the Jedi comics.

Either way though, it sounds very likely that we might get to see a younger Yoda, which I think would be really cool.

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Has there been any official statement about the exact year in the canon that this show will take place? It just occurred to me that since Yoda is in the High Republic books, and will appear in the Eclipse game, he might also make an appearance in this as well. Frank Oz is still alive and well, and he’s already returned as both voice actor and puppeteer in TLJ (and of course there’s Grogu as well), so maybe we’ll get to see a younger Yoda in live action?

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regularjoe said:

There’s probably a Wookiepedia page for this, but the implication I am taking from this is that the Tuskens in general or this tribe in specific is matriarchical.

Possible, but she’s not playing the tribe chieftain. Though since they all wear the same masks it’s hard to tell if the chief isn’t also a woman, though the costume is more typical male Tusken like we’ve seen before.

My interpretation is that she’s the Tusken equivalent of a Shield-maiden, i.e. a warrior woman, whereas the females we saw in AOTC are wearing more domestic garments and masks. Alternatively this could simply be an all-warrior tribe and therefore everyone, regardless of sex, wears the same masks with only subtle variations to their garments according to individual and/or status.

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Interesting detail that when the train first arrives they added a sound effect that sounded a bit like a Krayt Dragon.
I wonder if this meant that the Pikes made the sound to scare them off (even though the Tuskens knew it was a train–or rather “long speeder”), or if it was meant to trick the viewers that another dragon was going to appear.

Also, did anyone else get a bit of a Buffalo Bill and the railroads of the old west killing buffaloes vibe from this scene? In really liking how this series is carrying on the Western vibes that Lucas planted in ANH with this series.


As for Fett’s vision. I quite like StarWarsExlained’s analysis that the tree represents Fett’s family tree and how is rebirth from the Sarlacc (as Rodney’s also pointed out) deals with him trying to find his own identity as he seems to be strangled and held back by his own “roots” as it were. He is after all just a clone of his “father” and was pretty much raised to be a bounty hunter. We’re seeing Fett becoming his own man, which ties in nicely with similar themes in The Mandalorian where Din is learning that there are more than just “the way”.

But adding to this, I do wonder if the tree might have a double meaning. Most seem to assume that the sea is the sea of Kamino, but the Tusken tribe leader mentions when Tatooine once had a sea, so I’m wondering if this ties in to the origin of the land. Besides, Fett does end up with a gaffi-stick branch at the end, so this is presumably something all Tusken’s go through, so the tree has to have some kind of tie to Tatooine’s past as well.

The red glowing eyes are a whole other mater though. The end credits concept art shows a bunch of Jawas, and we have seen a red-eyed variation, though none so far on Tatooine. I know that the Jawas were, like the Tusken, native to Tatooine in Legends, but I don’t know if they’ve established this in canon yet. Ep. 2 of The Mandalorian seems to hint that they might not be, but it could also be that they’ve just adjusted t technology better than the Tuskens have. I think it’s still canon that the Jawas did not build the sandcrawlers.

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Rodney-2187 said:

I’ve seen a few complaints about the flashback scenes, but to me they essential are the story, and they inform so much about the character in the present. Boba is learning a lot about himself and his place in the galaxy. I love the self reflecting. I also enjoy learning more about the Tusken culture, at least of this one tribe. These little pockets of information are why I love that we’re getting these series. We’d never get this from a main saga movie.

Agreed, but now that we’ve seen the mayor, “The Twins”, etc. it wouldn’t surprise me if these two arcs wold combine in some grand way. Already you get the sense that Fett is becoming an important figure in the tribe, so it wouldn’t surprise me if the show ends with him calling on his Tusken allies to help him defeat his rivals and give both himself and the tribes more power on Tatooine. That’s my theory, anyway.

Fett’s already experienced some kind of spiritual connection to Tatooine, so I’m guessing that his ambitions in the “present” have more to them than him just wanting to be a crime lord as many have suspected. It seems clear now that the two arcs will cross over in some meaningful way and I suspect this show will be more than just a casual little Boba Fett spin-off mini-series, but that it will have major consequences for the future of Tatooine.

ZkinandBonez said:

Although I was never a fan of the Doctor Aphra comics (I read the first few volumes and found them just OK) it was really cool to see Black Krrsantan. It’s such a great design and he looks really fearsome in live action. I did really enjoy the one-shot comic where Obi Wan fights him, so it’ll be interesting to see what they do with him. Hopefully, and likely, to be more than just a cameo.

I’s that confirmed? I thought it was him. I really hope it is. I think the Doctor Aphra comics are some of the best. I’m surprised she isn’t one of the first to get her own live action or at least animated series.

Officially? No, not yet. But he looks more-or-less exactly the same and he’s a popular character so I don’ see why they’d make a look-alike character.

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Just finished the 2nd episode, and man, Favreau really gets the SW vibe. This was a really great episode. Only nitpick I have is that I’m so much more invested in the Tusken flashback subplot than the “present” day crime lord one, though its clear from this episode that they’re building up to something big.

A few random thoughts and observations:

Although I was never a fan of the Doctor Aphra comics (I read the first few volumes and found them just OK) it was really cool to see Black Krrsantan. It’s such a great design and he looks really fearsome in live action. I did really enjoy the one-shot comic where Obi Wan fights him, so it’ll be interesting to see what they do with him. Hopefully, and likely, to be more than just a cameo.

I did not expect to see the Pykes unmasked. From what I gathered skimming through Wookieepedia this is the first time we’ve seen their faces, though it is pretty close to some concept art.

The western movie vibe was strong in this one with the whole train sequence, and I especially liked the train conductor droid. I’m so glad to see that Favreau is embracing the absurd and metaphorical logic of SW. The interior of the “locomotive” section with all the tubes and the blue-burning engine is perfect SW weirdness that is just similar enough to our past to be recognizable, but just ‘futuristic’ enough to have that veneer of sci-fi to it. I also got some strong Lawrence of Arabia vibes from this sequence, and the end credits concept art pretty much confirmed that that was intentional.

I did not expect the Tusken peyote trip. Nice to see some Force-vision type thing away from the Jedi, the Sith, etc. We’ll have plenty to theorize about for a while with that scene.

The Camie and Fixer cameo turned out exactly as I expected. It’s a fun little easter egg for SW fans, but to 99% of the audience they were just two civilians that needed to be saved from a swoop gang.

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SilverWook said:

I think the business with the young Tusken is a coming of age ritual to prove his maturity. Boba winning respect from the Tusken leader (and probably eventually the rest of the tribe) reminds me of the 1970 Richard Harris film A Man Called Horse.
https://youtu.be/5H0dKc9QG9E

Yeah, that’s what I figured as well. This would explain why they’re such a small group out in the middle of nowhere with tents instead of huts. Might also explain the darker outfits, though that could just be tribe/clan related.

It’s also possible that the male outfits aren’t necessarily for males only, but rather warrior outfits, hence why one of them in this episode seemed to be female (her costume seemed like a bit of a blend of the classic ANH and AOTC female outfits). She might be the Tusken equivalent of a shield-maiden or something similar.

Either way, I think Favreau has done a great job at expanding what he know about the Tuskens while still keeping other aspects of the universe appropriately abstract and vague.