Warbler

Handman said:

It would make sense either way for me, but I am glad there wasn’t a lot of emphasis on it. The Doctor was never really bothered at having become an old man after being young Matt Smith for hundreds of years.

But he had been an old man before. He is used to being a man of varying ages. Also, he is, regardless of appearance, old. The Doctor has never, ever been a woman before. Finally, I could have he was bothered at being old in “Deep Breath”.

I would think it logical that a person that had been a man for hundreds of years, would have big reaction to suddenly becoming a woman.

Handman said:

dahmage said:

Warbler said:

I will say one thing that disappointed me was that I the Doctor would have a bigger (and funnier) when the Doctor found out he was now a she.

I know words are missing, but which ones?!

“I will say one thing that disappointed me was that I thought the Doctor would have a bigger (and funnier) reaction when the Doctor found out he was now a she.”

It is like you read my mind. 😃

Warbler said:

I will say one thing that disappointed me was that I thought the Doctor would have a bigger (and funnier) reaction when the Doctor found out he was now a she.

I have corrected the post. I really need to proofread better.

I will say one thing that disappointed me was that I thought the Doctor would have a bigger (and funnier) reaction when the Doctor found out he was now a she.

suspiciouscoffee said:

Also

Thought it was lame that they just killed off Grace, the older woman, like they did.

Why was it lame?

dahmage said:

The only times I recall hearing people describe Trump as nice in person was when people met him for the first time. First impressions are unreliable. Don’t most long term acquaintances call him boorish, narcissistic, and idiotic?

and what about the reports and rumors of him being unhinged behind the scenes, supposed coming from some within the administration?

Jay said:

Warbler said:

There is a lot more that makes him different from the average politician.

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

Jay said:
It’s only Trump’s delivery that makes him different.

Really?!

Within the scope of how he uses rhetoric to get what he wants, yes. There are things outside his rhetoric that make him different,

outside his rhetoric? what about on the bs he spews on twitter? I think that makes him different.

but within the context of lying for political gain, I don’t see how he’s all that different from what’s come before besides his chosen delivery.

How about how often he lies? How about how blatantly?

He’s described in private conversations as exceedingly polite, even meek. Doesn’t fit at all with the portrayal of him being a monster

He has only himself to blame for the portrayal of him being a monster.

and implies his public persona is what he feels it needs to be to accomplish his goals.

I don’t see how acting like an arrogant, smug, rude, chauvinistic, selfish jerk accomplishes anything.

Jay said:

Warbler said:

Jay said:

After reading Trump’s op-ed and the rebuttal, I don’t see how his lies are worse than any other politician’s. Seems to me that people base the lies they’ll accept on their opinion of the liar. If they like the liar and agree with their overall position, they’ll gladly accept the lie.

Perhaps, but Trump does lie, a lot.

Absolutely he does. It’s second nature to him. I think he places more value on results than honesty.

That’s really just another way of saying that he lies for what he perceives to be the greater good, which is why many politicians lie.

The problem is, what a politician might perceive to be the greater good, isn’t necessarily the greater good. Also I am not sure Trump cares for the greater good as much as cares about himself and $$$.

They have what they think is a worthy goal and they stretch the truth (or tell outright lies) in order to achieve that goal. It’s only Trump’s delivery that makes him different.

There is a lot more that makes him different from the average politician.

Jay said:

flametitan said:

WTF USA Today?

I mean, I guess they just wanted the ad revenue from having both the op-ed and the rebuttal. Or the Op-Ed process is looser than I thought. Still doesn’t sit right to have a sitting president write an op-ed to slam his political opponents.

The fact check was posted almost a day and a half after the op-ed. Perfectly reasonable that FactCheck.org read the piece and asked to rebut (it was plenty of time for 3 people to write the rebuttal) rather than it being a coordinated release. Either way, I don’t see why it’s a problem. Presidential op-eds are nothing new.

TV’s Frink said:

If you have to post a fact check rebuttal that is way longer than the “opinion” piece, maybe don’t run the opinion piece in the first place.

Rebuttals are usually longer than the original piece because they often address one-off statements made in the original piece with lengthy responses.

True, I am sure there are plenty of examples in this thread where I have written a rebuttal that is longer than the original post.

TV’s Frink said:

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

I don’t see the objection to USAT including both. Running the president’s claims is simply reporting what an important, powerful figure is doing.

No, that’s giving him another platform he doesn’t need to spew his lies. That’s different that reporting on what he’s doing.

After reading Trump’s op-ed and the rebuttal, I don’t see how his lies are worse than any other politician’s. Seems to me that people base the lies they’ll accept on their opinion of the liar. If they like the liar and agree with their overall position, they’ll gladly accept the lie.

Perhaps, but Trump does lie, a lot.

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

After reading Trump’s claims, I’m even more amazed anyone would vote for him. It should be totally laughable to anyone with even a modicum of intelligence.

Have you read this thread?

Is there anyone here who voted for or plans to vote for Trump? I wouldn’t blame them for keeping quiet given the vitriol they’d receive, but I don’t think one person has said they did or would.

Most of those that would or did support Trump are long gone.

Yo Apollo, how did you like fighting the Russian?

I guess next we can expect references to Taylor, Garfield, McKinley, Harding, and FDR.

oh.

Warbler said:

I guess I am leaving.

What else is there to do?

Bob Falfa, I am sorry about the my rude comments way back when.

Goodbye.

I guess I should address this.

I assure you all that when I posted this, I truly thought I was leaving the forum. (I might still, we will see). I was very upset and depressed. I calmed down a bit since.

Possessed said:

It’s like you’ve taken everything everybody has tried to explain to you, wrote it down on a piece of paper, wiped your ass with it, and then convinced yourself it was just us saying we hate you without even reading it.

I assure you that is not the case. If it were, I would not have read and re-read what you all said so many times. It also wouldn’t have hurt as much as it did.

I am forced to admit that I must have a bit of a persecution complex and that I am oversensitive at times. (but I still totally disagree about having an “entitled attitude”). I will try to work on that.

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

Warbler said:

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

I for one am very glad to see a complete reboot.

A compete reboot? I haven’t heard that is what they were doing. I am pretty sure the rest of the continuity still counts. I for one would not want to see over 50 years of Dr. Who thrown into the trash.

Sorry for being unclear – I guess I meant partial reboot. The series was getting gooey.

gooey? perhaps you meant goofy?

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

I for one am very glad to see a complete reboot.

A compete reboot? I haven’t heard that is what they were doing. I am pretty sure the rest of the continuity still counts. I for one would not want to see over 50 years of Dr. Who thrown into the trash.

I still don’t understand what he meant by it. Was it just a joke of some sort?

dahmage said:

Warbler said:

Handman said:

I’m glad you enjoyed the episode, but… there was also that one scene in The End of Time where the Doctor freefalled several hundred feet, crashed through a glass ceiling, and was still well enough to aim a gun…

And there was also the one scene in Logopolis where falling from a telescope injured the Doctor enough to cause a regeneration.

its like they make this stuff up as they go along.

True, unfortunately consistency is not one of Dr. Who’s strong points.

Handman said:

I’m glad you enjoyed the episode, but… there was also that one scene in The End of Time where the Doctor freefalled several hundred feet, crashed through a glass ceiling, and was still well enough to aim a gun…

And there was also the one scene in Logopolis where falling from a telescope injured the Doctor enough to cause a regeneration.

If they want a clean break, they shouldn’t have ended the last episode with a cliffhanger. But I agree, it didn’t leave a plot hole.

Mrebo said:

Psh, as if a measly fall could seriously injure the Doctor!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3w-BHsXt4I

towne32 said:

I think it was a good move to not pick up directly from the cliffhanger.

towne32 said:

I think it was a good move to not pick up directly from the cliffhanger.

I disagree. I think cliffhangers should be resolved from picking up exactly where it left off. It just makes sense.

That is one thing I didn’t like about the first episode of the Twelfth Doctor. At the end of “Time of Doctor”, the Tardis is crashing and the Doctor doesn’t remember how to land it. Next we see dinosaur appear in the Victorian Era, with the Tardis in its mouth. No explanation as to how we got from point A to point B.

this way newcomers can absolutely tune in without feeling like they have missed anything at all.

It is not too difficult for newcomers to watch “Twice Upon a Time”.

One thing that did surprise me was that right before the premier, instead of airing “Twice Upon a Time” (which is what they should have done), then instead showed “Day of the Doctor”.

Tobar said:

Warbler said:

The thing about knives. The Doctor needs to learn that knives unlike guns can be used in peaceful ways. Knives are very useful tools at times, that is why we all have them in our kitchen. There is nothing wrong with carrying a knife. Just ask Macgyver.

them

Hmm, that video talks about knives the way we talk about guns.

Perhaps in the current climate in the U.K., it does makes some sense for the Doctor to say what she said.

No. I admit I was wrong about that.

SilverWook said:

They could have bought clothes for someone else.

True I suppose.