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#1047695
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Random PT ideas
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thejediknighthusezni said:

Kyber Crystals power the only fighter-sized ships in the galaxy with hyperdrive capability.

Interesting idea. Speaking of Kyber crystals, one idea I had was that during Anakin and Obi-Wan’s fateful duel (which in one of my versions was a three-way duel with Obi-Wan, Anakin, and Maul) was that Anakin, tapping in to the Dark Side, would change the color of the kyber crystal in his saber and would temporarily give his blue blade a red tint.

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#1046716
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Random PT ideas
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Hey guys. Down below was an epilogue I wrote for an Ep 1 rewrite I had planned. This rewrite was more focused on trying to fit with the Disney canon (mainly TCW and Rebels, but not excluding some of the comics), shifting some details here and there. This version has a cast of characters including a teenaged Anakin Skywalker, a younger and more brash Obi-Wan Kenobi, and an original character, Kara Lok (who in some drafts was going to be Kara Qel-Droma), who was a combination of Han’s cynicism and Leia’s devotion to her own cause. While I did have an epilogue ready, I never got around to writing the rest of the story (strange, isn’t it?) because I get on getting conflicted of the story’s details (e.g. when it takes place, what happens exactly, should it really fit with Disney canon, etc.).

Down below is that epilogue. Let me know what you guys think. Probably not that good, but I’d like to know. Thanks.

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Anakin could feel the still air in the Council Chamber. He had rarely seen it since he came to the Temple, but he knew it enough to recognize the ornate, circular patterns on the floor, and the twelve chairs of the council seated on the edge. However, the darkness permeated everywhere, save for the center of the chamber.

Anakin gazed at the Jedi Masters standing in a circle. Their blades were lit and held in salute in a ring of colorful light. It was unlike anything Anakin had seen, and he was tempted to join them.

“Keep still,” he heard Windu, who stood in the circle.

Relaxing his grip on his unlit saber, Anakin did as he was told and remained outside of the circle of Jedi Masters. That did not stop him from peaking in the spaces between, and he saw the grandmaster’s seat. Right in front of it knelt Obi-Wan. Anakin was surprised how serene the Jedi’s expression was, especially at such an occasion like this.

Across from Obi-Wan, Master Yoda held in his hand his old lightsaber, used for ceremonial purposes. The small green blade lit up in the darkness, and the ancient master spoke while the saber passed over Obi-Wan’s head.

“By the right of the council… By the will of the Force… Dub thee I do, Jedi…”

Fascinated, Anakin watched the blade hover by Obi-Wan’s braid before Yoda sliced it off in one motion.

“… Knight of the Republic,” Yoda finished.

The blinds peeled away, and natural sunlight flooded into the room. The Jedi Masters extinguished their lightsabers and went over to congratulate Obi-Wan, who stood and scooped up his severed braid in hand. Anakin would have gone first, but the taller Masters kept blocking his way and congratulated Obi-Wan with a “Well done,” or a pat on the back.

At last, Obi-Wan came through the crowd. The Masters fell silent and their gazes on Anakin, who noticed. He managed to clear his throat and smiled at the newly knighted Obi-Wan. “You made it,” Anakin said. “Congrats!”

“Put so eloquently,” Obi-Wan gave a faux wry smile, which turned genuine. “Thank you.”

Anakin continued to grin until Windu spoke, drawing both the young men’s attention to him. “Kenobi, now that you are a knight you will have more duties than before. What happened on Alderaan has left the Senate troubled. They will need the Jedi now more than ever.”

“But for now,” Yoda interjected with a kind smile. “Cherish this moment you must. Today, a good day this is. Risen to the rank of knight you have.”

“… and with a new addition to our order,” said Master Fisto, who turned to the young teenager.

Obi-Wan put a hand on Anakin’s shoulder. “I will train him, as Qui-Gon would have wanted,” he told the Masters.

Anakin gave a small smile. Hearing of Qui-Gon did hurt, but he knew the kind master would not want him to dwell on it. He would make him, and Obi-Wan, proud.

“Much work there is, Obi-Wan,” Yoda continued. “For you and your new Padawan. Best to you both, I wish for.”

“May the Force be with you,” Windu said.

Nodding, Obi-Wan and Anakin turned and made their way to the elevator. The door closed behind them, and the new Knight let himself relax his posture. “I can’t believe it actually happened,” he said.

“Neither can I,” Anakin added as he relaxed.

Obi-Wan gave the teen a poignant glare. “But you didn’t do anything.”

“I was there for moral support.”

Obi-Wan shook his head and was silent for a few moments. “Well, I believe we’ve had enough excitement. We should just enjoy the day.”

“As long as nothing else weird happens,” Anakin agreed.

The elevator door slid open. Both Jedi were surprised to see someone, not another Jedi, waiting by the elevator. That someone clicked her boots and saluted them. “Specialist Kara Lok, reporting for duty, master Jedi,” she announced.

Anakin and Obi-Wan just stared at the woman in front of them. They almost failed to recognize her with the gray military uniform and combed hair. At last, Anakin said, “Never mind, I stand corrected.”

“At ease,” Obi-Wan said, as he left the elevator with Anakin. He looked up and down at the new Kara. “‘Specialist Lok,’ now… What is the occasion?”

Kara lowered her hand. “After the Alderaan incident, I was given a promotion…”

“I see.”

“… and I have been assigned to work with you, Knight Kenobi.”

“Ah, you noticed.” Obi-Wan gently brushed the stub of hair where his braid used to be.

“I did. Congratulations, by the way.”

“Thank you.”

Anakin finally broke his silence and said, “Alright, who are you and what have you done with Kara?”

“Still haven’t changed,” Kara rolled her eyes, showing a bit of her old self. “Basically, the Senate’s up in arms with star systems leaving. They want military personnel to work close with the Jedi to make sure certain worlds stay with the Republic. They also want the military to look professional while doing so. Hence, the new look.”

After a moment of taking in this new information, Obi-Wan asked, “And I take it, there’s a mission for us already?”

“We have a meeting with Senator Ibis on Corellia.”

Hearing that name, Anakin’s eyes widen with recognition. “Corellia, isn’t that a world full of starship?”

“And full of veteran pilots,” Kara added with a small smile, knowing full well the Jedi were ready to accept her offer. “I’ll have the Star Hopper ready for departure. We can leave as soon as you’re ready.”

With that, Kara made her leave, Obi-Wan shortly followed. He stopped and looked to the young boy still waiting behind. “Are you coming, apprentice?” Obi-Wan called out with a smile.

“Yes, master,” Anakin returned, following Obi-Wan and Kara down the halls of the Jedi Temple while containing the joy inside of him.

Master Yoda was right. Today was a good day.

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#1046475
Topic
Random PT ideas
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Hello everyone. I’ve posted a lot of PT rewrites on this site, all of them cancelled and failures because I can’t seem to choose which story to fall on. That being said, I decided to put ideas, written scenes, and whatever I have in mind here. Hopefully, it’s not all schlock.

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#1045291
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SW: Birthright (A TFA AU)
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I’m back, and with a crawl for my story. Let me know what you guys think of it. It’s just a crawl, but hopefully, it’s a bit good.

"A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away…

STAR WARS

The Regaining Light

For many years, the NEW REPUBLIC has known peace. However, troubled times are returning to the galaxy as the FIRST ORDER has risen from the ashes of the old tyrannical Galactic Empire.

The newly made Jedi Knights, too few and leaderless, have scattered across the galaxy. Many Jedi and the Republic search for the Jedi Master and famed hero Luke Skywalker, searching for anyone who last saw him.

Meanwhile, in a system that houses the First Order’s base of operations, a young woman trains herself to join the group of Force wielders known as KNIGHTS OF REN…"

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#1045289
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The SW Fan film/short thread
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Hey guys. I haven’t seen a general thread on fan-made SW works, specifically filmed and animated kinds, so I thought I’d put this up (if there’s already one, I’ll take this down). Here, we just talk about good, bad, and whatever SW fan films there are out there. Put down random thoughts. Just something to talk here, if you want.

Getting the ball rolling, I just found this animated short, called STAR WARS: Echoes of the Past by YouTuber Andrei Terbea (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjA1HacQZg8). Not exactly action-packed like most, but I thought it was pretty good. Just a bit where Rey and Luke talk, and I liked it.

Do you guys know of any fanfilms (good/bad/whatever)? I’d be interested to hear what you guys have to say. Thanks!

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#1041524
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SW: Birthright (A TFA AU)
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DuracellEnergizer said:

I’m immediately interested in knowing what becomes of Luke’s students, so I have to say its a pretty good prologue.

Thanks for your response, but it may take a while before I reveal anything about that. Luke’s students is one of those many plot bunnies I have for this story, and it’s a big hindrance. Aside of deciding what actually happens, there’s also the problem of using Legends characters vs characters that may appear in the Disney canon (usually I tend to stick to one canon in these kind of situations). Hopefully, I can clear that up soon, but we’ll wait and see for now.

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#1040736
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SW: Birthright (A TFA AU)
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Hello, everyone. I’ve been working on a TFA rewrite/AU, “The Regaining Light” (working title), which falls more under an “Infinities” alternate universe story than an actual rewrite. This is a fanfic novel (b/c I’m more familiar with that than script writing), which delves into the typical “what if?” type of thought.

Now, I haven’t been able to write the full story, since I have been having problem with planning the plot and have it work with the characters, and given Carrie Fisher’s recent passing, I have been hesitant to carry out my plans for the story (one of them which is killing off the OT main cast). Also, I have been going back and forth between different plot bunnies, all for the same story. As such, I don’t know when I will actually get to fully write this story.

That being said, I do have something ready. Below is a small short that came to me a year ago, and from that short, I started to branch it out into a TFA AU story. It might not be much, but I would like to know what you guys think (good/bad/meh?). Thanks.

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In the murky darkness, there was no one.

The eyes under the black visor continued to stare, wanting to some outline of a person. They had to be hiding somewhere, perhaps cloaking their presence. However, the Force revealed nothing of the sort, or anything else, for that matter.

The Force proved to be true when the lighting flashed, and no one was in the rain.

A breath of frustration escaped through the helmet’s filter as Kylo Ren stared at the empty space before him. Kylo expected Skywalker’s other students to be here. He had felt them, and it was what his sources had told him, but now there was no one. Not a single being.

Behind him, a female asked, “Where are they?!”

“They must be hiding somewhere!” said another, a man, barely heard over the rain and thunder.

Kylo glanced over his shoulder to the handful Knights of Ren behind him. The filter of his helmet turned his frustration into a distorted deep base. “I want them found! Leave no stone unturned!” he ordered.

Before everyone else went their own separate ways, Kylo impatiently rushed out to conduct his own search. His boots splashed on the large puddles, sending the water everywhere and the mud continuing to stick to his soles. Again, he tried to find some visage of a being, looking left and right, only to find no one. Kylo kept on walking and searching, until the forms of his knights were mere blobs in the distance.

After a while, Kylo came to a stop. Closing his eyes, the thunder, the rain pelting the dome of his helmet, and the constant splash of dirt and puddles faded away. Kylo searched through the ebb and flow of Force for any lifeforms beyond himself and his knights. He brushed aside the critters, plants, and others beneath his notice. He searched, and searched, and searched, and searched. He knew was close, but where…

Then, Kylo turned, just as the lightning flashed again over a white cloak. The outline of a hood and a man underneath it stood not too far away. “I wondered when you would arrive,” the man said, his soft voice weighed down by age. “I was getting tired of waiting in the rain for so long.”

Kylo, unamused, peered at the man. “Where are the others?”

“Gone,” met his demand. “Far from you and Snoke."

Anger sparked, but Kylo stopped himself. “If you tell me where they are, the Supreme Leader may show you mercy,” he offered.

The hooded head shook, and Kylo heard a small chuckle, despite the rain. “We both know that won’t happen. There’s only one way this will end,” the man replied.

Kylo frowned under his helmet. “Perhaps, you’re right,” and he reached for his lightsaber hilt.

Pressing the button, the main red blade howled, and the two smaller ones sizzled out of the lateral vents. They crackled in the rain, sparks almost coming out of the serrated edges. Kylo’s lightsaber hissed at the droplets while he slowly walked forwards.

The man raised his head to meet Kylo’s visor as blue eyes stared from under the dripping hood. “Strike me down, if you have to. But if you do, I’ll be powerful than you can ever imagine.”

“I can imagine quite a bit,” Kylo retorted before he raised his saber.

The man merely smiled as the blade came down.

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#1037835
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Need help with a TFA Rewrite
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rocknroll41 said:

Wannabe Scholar said:

Hello everyone I’ve been having a bit of trouble with my TFA rewrite for sometime. I do have an idea as to how the story should take place: A single change in history changes the positions of two SW characters (and more), as young Rey, a student of the Knights of Ren, is sent out to find Kylo Ren, who is going by the name “Jacen.” Rey, captured by Jacen and Finn (who just deserted), is strolled along for the ride and slowly begins accept the Jedi way, after meeting some Jedi (who are alive and well) on Hosnian Prime. Of course, Han would serve as the mentor role and be killed off in this story (not sure if it’ll be as obvious as in the actual TFA, but hey).

One problem is regarding one of my ideas for this rewrite. That being: kill off every OT core cast member throughout my TFA and the installments afterwards (which are more based on specualation than the actual upcoming films). Because of Carrie Fisher’s passing, I thought it would be in bad taste to do kill her off (which would be passing in her sleep after being fired upon by Star Destroyers).

The other problem is, since I put the story off, I have been questioning the roles of Rey and Kylo Ren. Originally, I wanted Rey to be with the bad guys, so we can get a better insight into them. At the same time, I realized that film TFA Rey was meant to be someone whom the audience can relate to the best (what with Rey nostalgic for the Rebel vs Empire time and whatnot, as shown with her litte “memorabilia”). My version of Rey doesn’t match that so much, but I found her so interesting to write about (or jot notes, anyway).

If you guys have any advice/thoughts that could help, I’d appreciate it. Thanks.

Yeah in one of my older TFA rewrites I combined Rey and Finn into one character and had her start off as a stormtrooper in training on a small First Order base off on a desert planet. I figured if you show her struggling to get along with everyone else there and questioning her place in the world, so to speak, you can have her start out with the bad guys yet still be relatable to the audience.

That is true, but another problem I had was trying to tie the search of the First Jedi Temple into the plot because SPOILERS Luke is dead before the story even starts SPOILERS. Then, there’s the Skywalker saber, since I was giving it a bigger role in the search since the piece of the special map was hidden in it (a la Brackett’s old draft of ESB). Oh well. I’ll see what I can do…

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#1035746
Topic
Need help with a TFA Rewrite
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Hello everyone I’ve been having a bit of trouble with my TFA rewrite for sometime. I do have an idea as to how the story should take place: A single change in history changes the positions of two SW characters (and more), as young Rey, a student of the Knights of Ren, is sent out to find Kylo Ren, who is going by the name “Jacen.” Rey, captured by Jacen and Finn (who just deserted), is strolled along for the ride and slowly begins accept the Jedi way, after meeting some Jedi (who are alive and well) on Hosnian Prime. Of course, Han would serve as the mentor role and be killed off in this story (not sure if it’ll be as obvious as in the actual TFA, but hey).

One problem is regarding one of my ideas for this rewrite. That being: kill off every OT core cast member throughout my TFA and the installments afterwards (which are more based on specualation than the actual upcoming films). Because of Carrie Fisher’s passing, I thought it would be in bad taste to do kill her off (which would be passing in her sleep after being fired upon by Star Destroyers).

The other problem is, since I put the story off, I have been questioning the roles of Rey and Kylo Ren. Originally, I wanted Rey to be with the bad guys, so we can get a better insight into them. At the same time, I realized that film TFA Rey was meant to be someone whom the audience can relate to the best (what with Rey nostalgic for the Rebel vs Empire time and whatnot, as shown with her litte “memorabilia”). My version of Rey doesn’t match that so much, but I found her so interesting to write about (or jot notes, anyway).

If you guys have any advice/thoughts that could help, I’d appreciate it. Thanks.

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#1027693
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Remaking ToTJ as a film
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If it was 1990s or 2000s, I would have gone with James Marsden and Famke Janssen (Cyclopes and Jean Greay in Singer’s X-Men movies) as Ulic Qel-Droma and Nomi Sunrider. Marsden does have that dashing, cocky look for Ulic Qel-Droma, while Famke certainly has that powerful yet beautiful look, which works with her role as Jean Grey. Plus, given their roles in the X-men movies (Jean Grey and Cyclops being a couple), I think that could work as Ulic and Nomi grow to like each other.

But since this is the 2010s, and if someone wants younger actors, I’m going along some of the actors from BBC’s Merlin. For Ulic and Aleema Keto, Bradley James’ Arthur from a cocky, brash fighter/prince to a noble king, while Katie McGrath’s Morgana Pendragon plays into the beautiful witch role that tempts the brave hero. Colin Morgan (the titular hero of Merlin) has worked alongside James in Merlin, giving plenty of banter that makes them feel like good friends (maybe even brothers), which makes him perfect for the humble, yet a bit mischievous, Cay Qel-Droma.

As for Nomi, the main hero, that’s a tough one. You need someone who can act a motherly and somewhat timid woman who is forced into a role not meant for her, yet grows into a strong and powerful warrior nonetheless. You could go with someone like Tamla Kari, Constance in the BBC’s Musketeers, whose character went from an obeying wife to a somewhat strong and willful person (albeit while stuck in the role of love interest for the main lead).

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#1027348
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Remaking ToTJ as a film
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Yeah, this is pretty getting old, what with trying to bring back something from the past and rebooting/filming it, but like almost any idea I think of, it is dumb and doesn’t die easily. I like ToTJ since it tells such an interesting story with Jedi lore and ancient Jedi characters, like Nomi Sunrider (who’s my favorite), Exar Kun, etc. So, how would you retell ToTJ as a film (this includes characters-cast, if you want-production, directors, etc)?

I’d have ToTJ films be a trilogy (“The Nadd Uprising,” “Dark Lords of the Sith,” and “The Sith War”), with Nomi Sunrider as the main character, since she’s the one the audience would more likely relate to (NO political agenda in this, swear it). She’d be the young widow taken into the Jedi and taught their ways, while getting to know Ulic, the dashing hero, and his bro, Cay, the quiet Jedi techie. Exar Kun fills the Vader role (of course) as the fallen Jedi who’s looking for Sith knowledge and is consumed by it, turning himself into the Dark Lord of the Sith.

As for casting, direction, or production, I have no idea. It would be difficult to recreate some of the scenes from the comics, but if Kenneth Branagh could get Asgard in Thor, then I guess anything’s possible.

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#1024755
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R.I.P Carrie Fisher
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I always liked when Luke told Leia their true heritage in ROTJ. Bit personal as you have to wonder what’s going on in her head. Another is when Leia senses Luke is in danger in ESB. Both are memories I’ll cherish.

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#1024647
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Carrie Fisher Suffers Major Heart Attack
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When I first saw the news, I was shocked. I watched Rogue One this weekend, and seeing Leia’s face in the final scene gave me a sense of joy for the film, even if it wasn’t really Carrie Fisher. I knew something would happen eventually, but i never thought anything would happen so soon. Like all of us, she was a huge part of our childhoods and it is sad to see her go, just when she’s being reintroduced to a new generation of fans. My condolences go out to her family, and I hope the best for them. However, I would like to put this on a lighter note.

I may be an idiot for writing this, and a bigger idiot for sounding preachy and getting some bits wrong, but I guess I’m tired after everything that has happened this year. I can’t deny that Carrie Fisher, Princess Leia, has passed away, and I’m not saying we should stop mourning, but I would like to remember her for all the happy memories she gave us. She gave a terrific female role model, and she didn’t stop encouraging the fans, even though we can be crazy. We loved her. She knew it and gave it back willingly.

Plus, Carrie was a badass, like everyone on the SW cast. She went through drugs, family problems, and much more, yet she managed to pull through. So, let us remember her for the badass she was, for the badass role she played, and being badass while doing it.

I’ll cry when I think of that princess warrior from a galaxy far, far away, but I hope I can also smile and remember all the fun I had watching Carrie Fisher as Leia, our rebel, our princess, and our hero.

Thank you, Carrie Fisher. May the Force be with you, your friends and family, and everyone.

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#1023827
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Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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DominicCobb said:

Aw man, say what you will about the film, but TFA’s score is waaaay better than RO’s.

Really? When I watched it, TFA did have some interesting music, but it felt more like it was in the background to me. The only piece of music that did stand out for me was the music during the start of Rey vs Kylo Ren when the old SW77 music plays as Rey gets the Skywalker saber.

But who knows, I could be wrong. Maybe I should watch the film again. I might think differently.

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#1023817
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Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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DominicCobb said:

A true scholar.

Oh yeah, one of the finest.

Seriously though, Rogue One did have a lot of good stuff, but it could have fined some details with characters (developing them, having them somewhat stand out more than in the film, and having us remembering their names-I only remembered Jyn, Cassian, and K2SO) and plot in the first two act. There was some world-building here and there, but I thought maybe we should have seen actually the kyber crystals being dug up on Jedha. And while the characters did stand out in their own way and did have great scenes (you can’t deny Donnie Yen’s actions scenes were awesome), I wish they all had some interactions that made us understand their characters better (e.g. the relationship between Donnie Yen and Jiang Wen, understanding the Imperial defector, or see why Cas hesitated to shoot Galen Erso or why he decided to come back around to help Jyn for the final battle), and I would have liked to gotten others better screen time (i.e. Saw Gerrera, Jyn’s dad). For me, I thought Rogue One was almost trying to be a character-driven story (somewhat anyway), but it was as if the movie didn’t go further into the characters.

Now, that being said, my problems are more or less nitpicks that I can accept, and I found the film all the more satisfying when the third act brings its story together in a grand-scale and epic showdown. I loved seeing how everyone works together, and you can feel for the characters while they struggle to get the Death Star plans, all the way up until they die (which I kind of expected, thanks to a small comic on deviantart that spoiled it for me). There were the smaller details I enjoyed in there as much as the large battle (e.g. Hammerhead ship pushing the Star Destroyer in another, Rebels on the ground trying to contact the fleet), mainly because I’m a bit familiar with SW Rebels, and I found the entire third act to be excellent.

Another positive I liked about the film was its music score. TFA was lacking any noticeable music of its own (something akin to Binary Suns, Duel of the Fates, etc.). One piece of music that sticks out is the song that’s played when Jyn and Cassian are together on the beach and wait for their end (it’s played throughout the movie, I think).

The CGI (with Tarkin and Leia) for me was fine, and I even liked the original footage they used (though I might be more nitpicky when I see the film for a second time). And I might be one of the few who actually liked the PT stuff added in the film, specifically Mon Mothma and Bail Organa. They got the original actors from the PT to play out their roles here, and it was such a joy for me because they were so criminally underplayed in the PT.

Overall, I did enjoy this film, certainly more than TFA (The Fanservice Awakens), but my aforementioned nitpicks did stand out. I would like to give this film an A-, but given my problems, a B+ (87/88 percent) will do (better than TFA’s C+).

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#1023334
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Should the sequel trilogy spoil the OT?
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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Wannabe Scholar said:

If future SW fans watch the movies, they would more than likely watched the sequels first.

Why?

Okay, not more than likely. I only thought that because there are SW fans (ones who grew up with the PT) who would suggest to watch the PT before the OT, and I thought SW fans who grew up with the ST would suggest people to watch the ST before either PT or OT.

Like I said, this subject is downright silly, but it was bothering me for a bit. Guess I wanted to bounce this off someone else to see what they think. Now, I know I was rambling nonsense.

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#1022809
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Should the sequel trilogy spoil the OT?
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This is a strange question, but it’s been nagging at me for a couple of days. I know, since TFA, episode VIII, and episode IX are AFTER the OT, they would give reveal some info (e.g. Vader revealing himself as Luke’s dad, and Leia being Luke’s sister), but I’m questioning if they should be in there at all.

I’m asking this because of this question: “In what order do you watch the SW films?” Everyone’s got their own way, but if you watch the movies from TPM to ROTJ for the first time, you wouldn’t be shocked by the reveals in the OT, since you’ve already seen their origins happen in the prequels. If future SW fans watch the movies, they would more than likely watched the sequels first, and if the future sequels reveal as much as in TFA, the reaction would be the same as if you watched the prequels before the OT.

Again, this is strange question, maybe downright silly. The sequels do need content from the OT to make sense of their own story, and it can require a lot of it, but can it be done while keeping the mystery of the OT? Or am I just rambling nonsense?

P.S. Please don’t spoil Rogue One for me. I haven’t seen it yet.

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#1021396
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Pitching a SW Show set between ROTJ and TFA
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Already, there have been SW cartoons on the Clone Wars with TCW (which is personally mixed, but does improve later on) and the Empire-era with SW: Rebels (which IMO is a little better than TCW, even though I lean more to the old EU in some parts). At some point, Rebels will end, leaving the gap between ROTJ and TFA to be explored via another show (cartoon/live-action).

If you were to pitch your idea for a SW show set between ROTJ and TFA, to whom would this show be directed and who are the characters and factions in the SW galaxy? What is would be could and what it is about? Where would most of the episodes take place? When would timeframe of this show and/or each season/series? How would it be done and how long would the show be? And most importantly, why even do this?

I would like to hear what you guys have in mind for this. This is more Disney-canon oriented, but you can include old EU elements, if you want to.

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#1020930
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Star Wars: Knight of the Empire -- Revamped Edition *COMPLETE*
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It’s good that you have SWG-0027 in the Vader role. Regarding her, you could have her replace the Jedi clone that fights Anakin and Obi-Wan at the beginning (that way the two sides can have some familiarity with one another), which could end in Clonemaster Jukassa’s death by the Jedi’s hand (or by hers?).

Another idea (and this is just throwing it out there) is that she wants to overthrow the Clonemasters and establish a superpowers for clones and ONLY clones. This could make her interactions with her second-in-command more interested, as he was constantly jabbing at SWG. Maybe he was really loyal to the Clonemasters only and suspected SWG of treason, which is hinted at as SWG gathers clones (loyal to her) on the battlemoon, at an attempt to use it on the Clonemasters.

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#1020566
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A prequel based on this one idea (AN EXERCISE)
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Hey guys. Some time ago, there was this old magazine article from 1980, “CLONE WARS EXPLAINED,” which was making guesses for the PT and used to be on the old Star Wars: Lost Episodes website. In the article, it had a young Darth Vader, who was his own character, as a slave until Obi-Wan Kenobi frees him and takes him aboard his ship, with a young Anakin Skywalker. You can find the article here: http://nightly.net/topic/253-article-found-while-surfing-the-net/

As weird and bizarre as this idea may seem, it has given me some ideas for a PT rewrite, and I would like to see if anyone can make their own PT, which stems from this: Vader is a clone/slave rescued by Obi-Wan and brought aboard to meet Anakin. Your PT can use elements from the old EU, the movies, and/or even the Disney canon, and you can decide your main cast, how the PT is handled, etc. This doesn’t have to be scripted or a fully written novel, but it can be, if you want it to. This is just an exercise to see what you can come up with immediately.

For me, I want to keep it similar to what is given by Timothy Zahn, as some of us already do. Here, the PT would take place between 42 BBY - 35 BBY. This would hide the OT spoilers and leaving it open to what exactly happens between this PT and OT, yet give enough hints for the audience to make their own guesses. The bad guys would be the Clonemasters through and through, and our heroes would include Anakin (serving the Luke role as he grows as a Jedi), Obi-Wan (the Jedi Knight and idealistic veteran, akin to Leia), Vader (who is serves in the semi-R2 role as a defective clone who is mainly experiencing this PT through his own eyes), and others I don’t have at the moment. Our heroes would use a Consular-class ship (the red ship you see at the beginning of TPM) as their Falcon. Installments would include this:

EP 1: The Clone Wars (42 BBY) - “Obi-Wan and Anakin find Vader, a defective clone disregarded by the Clonemasters, and the two train him as a Jedi and have him find the Clonemaster’s HQ, where he was grown.”

EP 2: End of the Old Republic (40 BBY) - “Corruption and greed eat away at the Republic, while Jedi are dying in the war against the Clonemasters. One last attempt has the Jedi go up against the enemy and bringing a deadly blow, but it is a pyrrhic victory as the Jedi’s HQ is destroyed, and the Empire rises.”

EP 3: The Dark Times (35 BBY) - “As the Jedi are hunted by a dark presence, our heroes come together for one last time to bring down the Clonemasters. In the end, Vader is left for dead, and Anakin hands Obi-Wan his saber, ignoring his master’s warning on the Dark Side.”

So what do you think? Any improvements needed? Based on the article at the top, what would your PT be? What would you want to do differently? I would like to hear what you guys have in mind.

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Star Wars: Knight of the Empire -- Revamped Edition *COMPLETE*
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Oh boy… Before I start this, I want to say that I have been following this idea since it was first posted, and I was interested to see how it turned out. That being said, everything I have to say isn’t nice.

When I first started reading this, I was very interested in the first half(seeing the clones, Clonemasters, glimpses of Anakin and Obi-Wan’s life, the Sith planet, Obi-Wan and Anakin at the temple and working with Bail, etc). When the second half (specifically after the incident on the Sith planet and everything afterwards) came in, my interest kind of went downhill. I had issues that Vader had so much screen time by himself when some of that could have had Obi-want meeting Vader immediately and get to know him; I didn’t like Dahlia that much-the fact she felt a little tacked on so late into the story and had such an important role when it could have been brought down a bit; some of the scenes at the end felt too far apart from one another (i.e. Obi-Wan taking out the battlemoon, Vader trying to survive); and Nashira and Siri didn’t really do anything(okay, that’s just a nitpick, so you can take it or leave it, if you want).

Also, this story felt like a lot didn’t happen, or there was much significance to it. True, ESB did not have a lot going on, but when you have a threat like Darth Vader looming over everyone, you get a sense of urgency, and it makes you feel for the characters in the end. Here, you have small-time bounty hunters who are working for a Clonemaster, whose fate is left unknown and doesn’t appear to have a presence after the first act (but maybe I’m wrong-I could have missed something). That point is also another problem I have with these specific prequels, there’s no big bad guy to fill in Darth Vader’s spot (unlike in Ep 1, where Pre Vizla was there from start to end, was a compelling villain with good motivations, and personally, should have been kept for the entire trilogy-maybe come back as a Jedi driven mad and out for revenge).

In spite of all of my negative criticisms (and there are some more minor things here and there), there were good ideas in this story. The whole thing with Anakin on Korriban and becoming a Sith Lord was awesome. Seeing the clones work was good too, and I like how they go into TotJ lore, but there were some things that didn’t mesh as well and won’t for other works (if you’re interested in the EU content), e.g. that whole thing of Anakin, Obi-Wan, AND Vader not really knowing each other and presumably not meeting for a while, when the three of them saved a planet called Skye (mentioned in the first SW comics annual in '78, I think). Maybe, after Anakin has become a Sith Lord, he joins Obi-Wan (who has gotten to know Vader while he was away) and helps in the final assault with his Dark Side powers. After the battle (be months or right after) Obi-Wan tries to bring Anakin back, but Anakin leaves, telling Vader to be wary of the Jedi way.

Again, there are a few things I like about ‘Knight of the Empire,’ but the story was not done as well as I would have liked. Then again, that’s just me, and I don’t know what everyone else thinks about it. I am still interested in Ep 3, so I’ll stick around to see what else is in store.

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Rewriting Prequels for TCW
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Sorry for putting up anything new for a while. I’ve been going more through the story, and find myself making more and more changes as I go on, partly due to the new content shown in the latest episodes of “Star Wars Rebels.” This will change some of the stuff I originally planned for this rewrite. That being said, I will be posting my new stuff in a thread called “Star Wars Prequels Disney-Friendly Rewrites,” or I’ll just edit the title for this thread, if I can (I think there used to be something on here that would let me do that, but I can’t find it now).

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Ways to Do the Prequels with No Spoilers for the OT.
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That could actually work. I was planning just one installment, but since you gave your idea, I think a trilogy could work with some tiny changes, and I’m working on it now. Thanks for that.

BTW, when talking about Vader’s suit, what differences would you suggest? I’m kinda thinking the helmet retains its overall look but Vader includes Anakin’s armor in TCW’s first few seasons with a dark robe over it.

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Ways to Do the Prequels with No Spoilers for the OT.
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Hi guys. I know we’ve talked about having Obi-Wan, instead of Anakin, to not spoil the OT’s secrets, but there’s this idea I’ve had after watching TFA, where it might be possible to have Anakin as the main character without spoilers. It is a really, REALLY far stretch, and it can only be done in one installment (movie, book, comic, etc.), but I think it’s possible.

The idea is that Darth Vader is a leading figure in the Empire/decaying Republic, fighting against small pockets of resistance against the government (which happen to include the Jedi). The twist is that there’s no suit, so we know what he looks like, but he’s only called “Darth Vader” throughout the entire thing.

Anakin’s real name is hinted at as he comes across the vagabond Jedi and Vader’s mentor, Obi-Wan (who’s trying to hide as many Jedi from Vader), Queen Padme of Naboo (who’s either starting to show signs of pregnancy or already given birth and the kids aren’t revealed until the OT), and several other familiar faces (maybe include Owen and Beru) . As Vader encounters these figures, it’s hinted at his past as Obi-Wan’s pupil and Padme’s lover/husband (who unknowingly has sired children, but that’s only known if you watched the OT first), and he becomes conflicted between his loyalty to Palpatine and to his loved ones who want him back.

More hints are dropped, such as Obi-Wan shows Vader Anakin’s lightsaber (Vader’s using his red one at this point) and Vader interrupts Obi-Wan from fully saying “This is the blade you wanted your children to have.” We see Vader has great hatred for Anakin, who he claims was weak and that was why he killed him (even though it’s not overtly stated that Anakin suppressed the good in him to become Darth Vader). We can explore Vader’s past by showing the wounds (physically and possibly mental) he suffered from the Clone Wars, and why he fell to the Dark Side (only tiny bits as we don’t want to spoil the surprise).

At the end, by whatever circumstance, Vader has fully accepted the Dark Side. Padme (pregnant or already given birth) is scarred by Vader, who then tries to eliminate the rest of the Jedi. This leads to a right with Obi-Wan on a lava pit/planet, and Vader gets his suit (but it can be more hinted at than anything else, since you don’t have to show it). Padme is shown to have lived, but it traumatized by the event and eventually dies after giving Leia to Organa, while Obi-Wan has gone to Tatooine to watch over Luke (Luke and Leia are hinted at than shown, since them showing up in the OT is good enough).

Again, this is a really far stretch, but I think it can work. Certainly not as a trilogy, but a single film would suffice. What do you guys think? Would it work? Is there a way to stretch it into a trilogy? Please let me know. Thanks.

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