Hey Matt.F, just remembered I needed to respond to your first reply on the previous page. So here’s a double reply 😛
Matt.F said:
Valheru_84, I am of similar opinion to yourself. “What the special edition should have been” is a great description for SW and ESB Revisited and I hope it will also apply to ROTJ Revisited.
Whilst Adywan has mentioned that there will be more editorial changes in this film than the previous two I look at what he’s specifically mentioned in his change list on the first post and these all seem very much in keeping with the previous two Revisited films.
Reading through this thread there are many people who want to push and petition him to make more major changes, rearrangements and even introduce new subplots (several pages were spent trying to persuade him that introducing a ‘Boba secret plan to kidnap Luke’ subplot was somehow worthwhile).
I think Adywan is now ‘two for two’ and has earned a degree of trust. His instincts on what to change and what to leave well alone seem to be sound. As Lucas discovered, these are beloved films and one clunky misjudged change can ruin the whole film for the audience, but I trust Adywan not to make any Greedo Shoots First type mistakes and go off the deep end.
A great, level headed post and I agree with everything you say and have that same trust in Ady after ANH and TESB. It was more my initial shock talking in those previous posts, thank you for helping remind me of these facts.
Matt.F said:
Val, again my taste tallies with yours - ever since seeing the longer cut of The Abyss I’ve preferred and sought out movies ‘extended edition’. However Original Trilogy is a fan edit site born from the prequels. The natural inclination of most of the guys here is to cut. It becomes that the movie is almost a puzzle, or a technical exercise what lines / scenes can be cut whilst preserving logic. There are dozens of variations on the prequels that use this approach, sometimes cutting so drastically that all 3 films are reduced just down to 1.
For me, I’d hate to see the Boussh scene cut or the Leia meets Wicket scene cut or the Ben force ghost. All of these have some value in them and some meaning to me. I would rather see more of the story rather than less, and I would miss them if they were gone. If the quality was high enough it would be great to have all the deleted scenes restored.
Jedi Rocks however… well you got me there!
Yeah what you say makes a lot of sense again. I do like extended movies but I also like fan edits that have been trimmed if it was necessary and properly makes the film better for it. In the case of the PTs, that’s a LARGE whack of each movie unfortunately which is why it’s often so hard for edits to make them anything more than watchable to somewhat enjoyable at times but they can never be great due to the limited source material to work with in the first place.
On the other hand - I, like you (probably), see value or hold nostalgic value in nearly all ROTJ scenes so it will be quite hard for me to actually see scenes cut from it. The movie could be made a little darker like TESB until the Empire is actually defeated at which point it should them become lighter in mood as everyone celebrates but if I was to look at the movie with an editor’s scalpel, I have no idea what I’d actually trim apart from maybe a few seconds here and there of sheer Ewok silliness as well as Chewie’s tarzan yell (was that even in the theatrical version or another facepalming GL change? Can’t remember myself).
When I say that though, it’s from the perspective of the OUT / Harmy’s DSEs. If we’re talking about the actual SEs then I could find a long list of things to cut / change back to original, such as the abomination that Jedi Rocks is and the new alien animations…that was a serious WTF moment for me where I truly wondered if GL had lost his mind…
.Val