Valheru_84

towne32 said:

ray_afraid said:

To me, he was saying “I don’t need this anymore.” He’s grown past it.
“You’re weapons, you will not need them.”

I get it. “You are weapons”. You don’t need extra weapons when you are the weapons. So throw them on the floor.

Pretty sure that was just a typo LOL (should have been “your weapons”).

.Val

ray_afraid said:

To me, he was saying “I don’t need this anymore.” He’s grown past it.
"You’re weapons, you will not need them."
Otherwise he just threw it to look cool. And that’s silly.

It’s not the biggest deal, and certainly a minor thing in the list of fixes Jedi needs.
Also, this is a fairly simple thing to fix, so if I’m alone on this I can do it for myself I suppose.

Interesting take on his motives though to me they seem pretty illogical and disconnected from what actually happens on screen. It does kinda make sense now with your view on him collecting his saber before leaving but I still wholey disagree with it.

Here is the scene: https://youtu.be/PqaiKmm8gsY

Emp: walking down the stairs “cackle Goood…cackle. Your hate has made you powerful. Now, fulfil your destiny and take your father’s place at my side”

Luke: sees the potential truth in the Emp’s words, having used his anger to defeat Vader and now can see a symbolic replacement of Vader already in Vader’s now missing mechanical right hand while Luke clenches his own in realisation he was already starting down that path. He had been warned numerous times about the dark side, never thinking he may actually be susceptible to its sinister lure and this snaps him out of the moment, realising he is being manipulated and forcibly reasserts his inner calm, remembering who he is - a Jedi. He says “Never.” as he turns around, turning his lightsaber off and defiantly throwing it away as he stands tall and walks without fear towards the Emp. “I’ll never turn to the dark side.” he says, preferring to die a Jedi than live on as a Sith pawn as all he holds dear is destroyed. “You failed your highness, I am a Jedi, like my father before me”. He waits, to see what fate now holds for him, as a Jedi…

Emp: “So be it…Jedi” SCRRCCHHHH! 😛

Probably didn’t need to play out that entire scene but no where in there do I see or feel anything about growing past the need for his lightsaber and I can’t make any sense of that in context to the scene. It’s not like he thinks upon defeating Vader that he’s ascended to a higher level and could fight the Emp without his saber like Yoda does in the PT. To me, his action is in direct relation to what he says at the time - “Never”

True if he picked it up again while the Emp was still alive then on both accounts it was a worthless guesture, but him retrieving it afterwards does not take away at all from the scene I described above.

.Val

ray_afraid said:

nightstalkerpoet said:

A Jedi does not rummage for his lightsaber. He calls it with the force and it comes.

Just touching on this again,
No matter how Luke does it, if he picks his saber back up, his throwing it meant nothing but to look cool for a moment.

I believe Neverar and myself posted some pretty sound responses to this as well after your own post. In context to what actually ends up happening, I have to disagree with you based on the below reasons:

NeverarGreat said:
If he retrieved it during the battle with the Emperor, I would agree. After the battle, it makes little sense to throw away what for all we know may be the last lightsaber in existence. Being a Jedi doesn’t mean being wasteful.

Valheru_84 said:
I initially agreed with Ray but I think Neverar’s summation is much closer to the mark of what may have actually happened and is logically sound.

Luke throwing away his lightsaber was an act of defiance against the Emperor, it wasn’t him giving up on being a Jedi. With the Emperor dead there is no longer any need for such self sacrifice and it could be that he will need it again in the future. He did also go to the trouble of crafting it himself during his training so it would hold a lot of personal effort and sentimental value. Yes the death star was starting to catastrophically fail but it would only have taken a second for him to call it to himself with the force as he was dragging Vader towards the lift (as Nightstalkerpoet alluded to).

If you still feel differently, what do you feel the reason is for him throwing it away then and why do you feel it is nullified by him retrieving it afterwards?

.Val

1,000 Challenge said:

You can put a comment on the Paypal receipt that it’s for the $1000 challenge and Adywan can tally those specific receipts next weekend. I don’t have a problem with that. But you have to put on the receipt that you’re participating in the challenge.

Have you posted this on the Facebook page as well or is it only for OT.com?

.Val

Nice drawings!

I like how they included the “I don’t like sand” scene as a blooper. Lost it at the “skating troopers” part though as they exited the breached lift on the Death Star, LOL!! XD

.Val

Not sure if this funny or sadistic 😕

https://youtu.be/DS_1vjOeEq4

Alright, someone else’s turn now 😉

.Val

Alright, time to end the debate once and for all…apparently if you don’t find this video funny then you’re not a Star Wars fan 😉 😉

https://youtu.be/ErOkwjzqaWs (you may want to mute the video)

Aside from that, I had to repost this particular joke XD

ANH modern trailer - actually pretty good!

https://youtu.be/MpkrMqmmy5k

.Val

Edit: links for TESB & ROTJ modern trailers. They’ve done the PT as well but screw watching those 😉

https://youtu.be/wwxMsBL-S7s

https://youtu.be/RDux8pW4qb8

Diego said:

So, went to the midnight screening yesterday here in Mexico and I really, really enjoyed it, had a lot of fun.

I think it will probably, like the prequels, split the fan base (maybe a bit less than the prequels), since it is very close to a remake of Star Wars, with quite a bit of Empire too, and I can see why that’ll bother people, and the Starkiller is kinda dumb.

For me though, while it rehashes a lot of scenes from Star Wars (the cantina bit being the worst and most unneeded offender), it wasn’t such a big deal. I felt this movie was more about the characters than the story. One of my biggest problems with the prequels is not so much the cgi or jar-jar, but that the characters are awful, Qui-Gon is boring, Obi-Wan is boring, Padme is… well I don’t know if there’s an english word for beyond boring and Anakin is a very unlikeable character. On TFA I found the characters quite interesting, fun and with emotions, you can see their friendship ( they don’t have to tell you they’re friends)

It’s a movie with heart and humor and I loved it, and I guess I’m a sucker for nostalgia, which this movie has tons. I loved when Rey and Finn are running and Finn asks about “that ship” and Rey says it’s garbage, the ship of course turns out to be the Falcon.

I also have to say I was pleasantly surprised by Harrison Ford, this is not old, bored Ford, it’s Han Solo from Star Wars and Empire. It is a shame though, we’ll never see Luke, Han and Leia together on screen again, the ewok celebration will forever remain the last time we see them together.

Just started reading this thread from the beginning (to actually read some reviews for a change 😉 ) and thought the above post, while not exactly what I would say about the movie, is not a bad summation still and captures many of the thoughts I had about TFA.

Also the part about knowing we’ll never get to see Han and Luke together again while quite obvious, wasn’t a conscious thought that had crossed my mind yet until Diego pointed it out above and it is indeed quite a sad thought );

While on the topic of Han’s death, the actual way they led up to it in the movie is probably one of the more annoying issues I have with TFA (I know it’s got its fair share of issues but overall I quite enjoyed the movie) simply because of how telegraphed the whole thing was. One may have guessed before watching the movie that Han would die in it, especially knowing how Ford wanted to be killed off in TESB but I’m of the sort that don’t theorise on such things before entering to see a movie, I take it more simply as it comes as the movie unfolds in front of me. Yet I knew as soon as we see Han standing there with a certain expression on his face while watching his son cross the catwalk and then start crossing it himself, that Han is certainly about to die to his son’s hand. I just checked a youtube clip to see how much time actually passes and it turns out, I knew a full 3 and a half minutes before it actually happened that without a doubt his son was about to kill him and this really annoyed me during my first viewing of the movie.

.Val

Nice thread oojason!

.Val

oojason said:

A cool fan-made poster for The Last Jedi…

Those last two posters are freaking awesome!

njvc said:

Yes, those are the original versions of the blurays, before I had all the amazing feedback from the crew at ot.com and gave them a total overhaul. Search Myspleen again, under my user name, and you’ll find all the recent versions.

And for those interested in projectors, I settled on the Epson 6040UB (the TW9300W in Australia). It has really good quality 4k upscaling, but doesn’t cost anything near what most of the true 4k projectors do.

I’m curious as to the aspect ratio being used with yours and the screen you’re using. Is that native to the bluray? As it looks a lot narrower again than I’m used to seeing.

.Val

njvc said:

Just checking in to say I’m glad people are enjoying this set, and thanks to those that have picked up the torch to continue sharing it with true (non-ebay pirate) fans.

On a separate note, I have recently indulged in a 4K upscaling projector, and my goodness, even at 720p, the image quality of the Despec. edition projected at 160" is something to behold. Star Wars was meant to be viewed big!

Hey NJVC,

Good to see you around again and nice projector image! Currently starting to look into a HD projector and a proper hi-fi audio system myself, I simply can’t wait to one day watch Harmy’s awesome DSEs via your beautiful blurays on the big screen in my own home 😄

.Val

Blubberboy said:

So it is free to download the despecialized edition ??

Good work Blubberboy for doing some investigation and therefore finding out you can get these completely free as they were always meant to be. Please be sure to let any friends or family know as well that you think may look to do the same as you.

Do also be aware though that all fan editors request you own a copy of the official blurays of the movies so that the copy rights holders don’t feel they are losing sales to unofficial digital copies and come down harshly on those that created them out of their love for Star Wars and were kind enough to make them available for all other Star Wars fans.

.Val

moviefreakedmind said:

Referring to the 1981 version always irks me because we all watched Star Wars on VHS for years without having any problems with that subtitle being in the crawl, but now it’s apparently a crime against cinema.

It’s because of what it now represents 😉

.Val

Frank your Majesty said:

ZeeverFett said:

SW:ANH

I found your problem. You should watch Star Wars. That’s a much better movie than A New Hope.

One of the few corners of the internet where such a joke is understood xD

chyron8472 said:
The purpose of Revisited is to make a Special Edition worthy of the original, not to act as George did and change things because reasons. Yes, Ady did make arguably unnecessary changes to ANHR, like altering the music during the Ben/Vader battle. But to some degree that made sense. Coloring Luke’s lightsaber in Jedi from green to blue doesn’t make sense.

Hey Chiron, just pointing out (as it was pointed out to me by doubleofive) that first and foremost these are actually Ady’s edits and the main goal behind them wasn’t necessarily to make versions of “what the special editions should have been” even though this perfectly epitomises the first two revisisted movies. But while they were “fan fixes”, it has been stated that ROTJ:Revisited will actually be a “fan edit” and therefore you should not be surprised if Ady does change a bit more with this movie.

It has also been said though that he will not be changing the colour of Luke’s lightsaber which I to am happy to hear 😃

.Val

NeverarGreat said:

ray_afraid said:

nightstalkerpoet said:

A Jedi does not rummage for his lightsaber. He calls it with the force and it comes.

No matter how he retrieves it, that act cancels out the symbolism and meaning of him throwing it in the first place.

If he retrieved it during the battle with the Emperor, I would agree. After the battle, it makes little sense to throw away what for all we know may be the last lightsaber in existence. Being a Jedi doesn’t mean being wasteful.

I initially agreed with Ray but I think Neverar’s summation is much closer to the mark of what may have actually happened and is logically sound.

Luke throwing away his lightsaber was an act of defiance against the Emperor, it wasn’t him giving up on being a Jedi. With the Emperor dead there is no longer any need for such self sacrifice and it could be that he will need it again in the future. He did also go to the trouble of crafting it himself during his training so it would hold a lot of personal effort and sentimental value. Yes the death star was starting to catastrophically fail but it would only have taken a second for him to call it to himself with the force as he was dragging Vader towards the lift (as Nightstalkerpoet alluded to).

.Val

So it’s seems the Anti-cheese is getting some renewed attention with 3 brand new members signed up just to PM me for the links.

.Val

oojason said:

a ‘The Force Awakens Fan Trailer (in the style of Christopher Nolan)’ video…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej-RnEsPHLw

Pretty cool trailer.

On another note, I hope they never give him the call…

https://youtu.be/ELRdfkgN4j0

.Val

So I just had a random thought when looking through the DVD cover / artwork subforum and came across the image again showing the confirmed movie name of “SOLO” - its obviously meant as a play on the title itself, being a single word title but I’m thinking it will have another if not more connotations within the movie itself such as Han starting out “solo” by himself and not hooking up with Chewie until later in the movie.

What do others think and are there any other examples where you think this play on the title has been worked into the story or comments on some aspect of it?

.Val

oh_riginal said:

Valheru_84 said:

Depheros said:

Just as a test, here’s the beginning of the sail barge sequence with flipped shots put back:
https://vimeo.com/238829311
It’s more jarring than the original, without a doubt. Although, I do like that Mark Hamill’s face is flipped back to normal now. I think that’s the main giveaway.

Can’t say I found any issue with those shots flipped back, I followed along fine with where the barge was heading and the other ships location to it.

.Val

I believe that because we are so familiar with these scenes we feel like we can follow it fine with shots flipped back, but that’s like being able to walk along a well-known trail without having to watch every step we make because we’ve walked it so often.

If the movie were released with those shots unflipped, it would have hurt more than helped upon a first viewing.

A great example of showing how important the 180 degree rule is, is to watch the “film” that plays at the end of Super 8, the one made by the kid characters. There are intentional breaks of the 180 rule to make it feel like a true amateur film made by kids.

I’ve seen Super 8 a number of times and can’t honestly say I ever noticed anything about this.

I’m not disputing the validity of the 180 rule but I think that maybe editors could fall into habit after using it a lot and end up applying it often when it’s not actually needed.

I understand what someone else said about being familiar with the shots already but I don’t think this is the case, not in respect to me anyway as I’ve never consciously thought about the barge and skiff locations at any point until this discussion, instead just watching the movie unfold as it does. This is how I watched the reflipped shots video and nothing felt out of the ordinary still, I didn’t particularly take notice of the vessels locations to each other except for the fact they were traveling somewhere and then they were stopped by the Sarlac pit with their location to each other unimportant / inconsequential since they are seperate and can travel wherever they wish. The fact the skiff ends up on the other side at the end just means my mind connects the information dots provided and assumes it moved to the other side when getting there (if I even really took notice since I’m more drinking in the location and wondering what fate awaits Han, Luke, etc).

.Val

Depheros said:

Just as a test, here’s the beginning of the sail barge sequence with flipped shots put back:
https://vimeo.com/238829311
It’s more jarring than the original, without a doubt. Although, I do like that Mark Hamill’s face is flipped back to normal now. I think that’s the main giveaway.

Can’t say I found any issue with those shots flipped back, I followed along fine with where the barge was heading and the other ships location to it.

.Val

ray_afraid said:

rodneyfaile said:

ChainsawAsh said:

TV’s Frink said:

When we can finally all agree on how much of a failure ROTS was, it will truly be a beautiful day.

Star Wars fans? Agree on something? Ha!

Can we all agree that we can’t wait to see The Last Jedi?!

I doubt I go see it.

TV’s Frink said:

rodneyfaile said:

ChainsawAsh said:

TV’s Frink said:

When we can finally all agree on how much of a failure ROTS was, it will truly be a beautiful day.

Star Wars fans? Agree on something? Ha!

Can we all agree that we can’t wait to see The Last Jedi?!

If I were someone that didn’t enjoy TFA… I don’t know why I’d be excited about TLJ.

Exactly.
(to clarify for the touchy ones, I got no problem with anybody who likes TFA and I hope TLJ is everything you hope for)

You could almost say, it’s ‘a new hope’…actually that’s more true of TFA 😉