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#1077211
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Another Hobbit fanedit (Peter Jackson Edition)
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Sounds interesting. Loved the LOTR trilogy (after having read the books all my life) but found I couldn’t bring myself to really even like The Hobbit trilogy. I wanted to like it but they threw so much filler in there along with overly extended and over the top action sequences (along with a lot of silly and unnecessary stuff as well) to be able to fill it out for 3 movies that I ended up quite disliking it and despising PJ for being a sellout in trying to milk the LOTR movies success and popularity.

The Hobbit should have been one long movie or two medium length movies at the most. And it should have been able to exist and succeed on its own rather than riding on the coat tails of LOTR and been purposefully tied into the LOTR in to many overly obvious ways that weren’t needed. Watching The Hobbit movies just felt like I was watching a crappier version of LOTR rather than a completely separate story that simply exists in the same world with some of the same characters and a very vague / obscure link to the events in LOTR via the one ring.

Anyway, keen to see what you do here 😃

.Val

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#1075657
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The Unofficial Complete REVISITED SAGA Ideas and Random Discussion Thread
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FVDnz said:

With speculation that Hayden Christiansen may return in The Last Jedi to reprise Force Ghost Anakin, will he remain at the end of ROTJR?! I know Adywan intends on reinserting Sebastian Shaw and all, but at the end of the day, he’s still not regarding the Sequel Trilogy is he? Maybe recreate a more decent looking Force Ghost version of Hayden compared to what we got recently possibly…

Keep Shaw in the OT and edit him into the ST if needed and possible or just cut out Hayden if that’s the case. The less Hayden in SW the better! I kid you not, I hated his performance far more than Jake Loyd’s as Anakin. And there was nothing wrong with leaving Shaw in in the first place since Anakin / Darth Vader is old when he dies anyway! Freaking GL meddling with things that ain’t broke!

.Val

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#1073966
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 **REVISITED** ADYWAN **720p HD version coming after ROTJ:R*
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Definitely an improvement Sanduni on the original and interesting that they did it by removing bits and pieces. All the same, I never have and never will have an issue with the original since that’s what I grew up watching and remembering and I think people need to remember and respect the time and age this movie was made in. Hindsight is 20/20 as they say but watching this for the first time as a kid, you never knew any better, you were sucked into the movie and seeing your first lightsaber battle was freaking awesome!

That aside, being Ady’s edit and essentially what the actual SEs should have been I wouldn’t mind seeing an upgraded fight just like you linked included in this version since I know I’m not watching the original theatrical. I’ll watch Harmys DSE for that ;D

.Val

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#1073694
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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NeverarGreat said:

I’ve listened to “The Starkiller” cue in the soundtrack enough that any change sounds off to me, so the musical splice between the first planet being destroyed and the shot of Sella is quite jarring in that context. Something that Danny Boyle said on the Sunshine commentaries has always stuck with me, and that is that sound is 70% of a movie. That’s why it’s so hard to get right, any wrong note is more unforgivable than even a wonky visual effect. In general, I think the best option is always to present the soundtrack as completely as possible.

Also, I wonder - is the score when Han dies the beginning of “The Starkiller”? They sound so similar, it might just be a case of sliding the cues around to match. This also makes me wonder if there was an edit of the film where the firing sequence happens here just like we’re trying to do.

Jackpumpkinhead said:

NeverarGreat said:

As it is in Restructured right now, there’s an odd key shift in two places where the ‘Starkiller’ track has been inserted. As well, there’s no reaction from the Resistance, so here I’ve tried to remedy both issues:
https://vimeo.com/215916349
Password: leia
There’s still a discordant sound when Han falls into the pit, but it could be further tweaked.
Thoughts?

Just watched this. I would say it all looks good, minus the fade out from Leia to the firing of SKB. I think you should either cut before we see her or hard cut after she reacts.

The reason for the fade was to de-emphasise the fact that Admiral Statura changes position so quickly between shots. I feel like the shot of Leia is essential to the cutaway, so it can’t be cut.

It might be worth it to remove the background characters from her ‘massive disturbance’ shot since they don’t look at all affected by the destruction of the Hosnian system.

I don’t think the characters behind her not reacting is a problem at all as I never for a second thought any of it was common knowledge at the Resistance base yet what had just happened. I took it as Leia feeling via the force Han dieing and the Hosnian system being wiped out right after, needing to sit down just like Obiwan does when Alduran is destroyed by the DS in ANH.

.Val

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#1073570
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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Hal 9000 said:

My thing with Ren identifying FN-2187 is that it seems strange that he called him by serial number, or would even be inclined to want to. But, eh, it’s probably more consistent with the overall project to put it back.

Not sure I understand as that’s all they’re identified by until Poe gives Finn his name? I can see how initially it may feel out of place for him to just pull it out of the air but the way he pauses alludes to some use of the force that gives him this information. Anyway, it’s exclusion doesn’t effect the main plot but I feel it might hurt his character development a little as its another scene that’s helping establish his power with the force for the audience and as I said earlier, draws some parallels with DV which is part of the overall story.

By the way, don’t take my mammoth length posts as droning on and trying to lecture you on any of the matters. I’m just not that good at writing in a compressed fashion so my posts tend to blow out as I try to make sure I’m being clear in what I want to say 😉

NeverarGreat said:

The reason for this was musical - in the original, the crescendo happens as Poe says ‘let’s go home’, but after that was cut the logical placement was right when the planet exploded into the star. But for that to work, there wasn’t quite enough time in the music to allow for the jump to hyperspace before cutting back to the resistance. Since the score continues uninterrupted long into that sequence, I didn’t want to change that.

Ah k, is there any way to include the few extra seconds of them jumping out and slightly speed up this section of footage (that doesn’t look obvious or out of place) just after the implosion has finished to make it fit within the window of time you have before we need to be back at the Resistance base for the correct musical cue? I’m thinking since it’s just the ships flying through space that you can almost make them whatever speed you want while still looking natural and the audience wouldn’t know as long as the sound effects still line up on the fly by past the camera.

.Val

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#1073293
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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Hal 9000 said:

Welcome, Valheru_84, and thank you for the input.

About Ren identifying FN-2187, it just seemed a little weird to me that he came up with the serial number like that. Not that it’s impossible, just weird. I don’t know; I could put it back how it was since it really is outside the goal.

About seeing the screaming people on Hosnian Prime… we are hoping to include the deleted scene in which Leia sends off her emissary, in which case it would be needed. And if not, it is beyond jarring to omit those shots and feature the ones right before and after.

About the crawl… I like it the way it is, partly because it is kept as close to the theatrical as possible, aside from deliberate changes made. I am very picky with the wording on these things, and don’t feel the need to have them comport 110% with the film itself. That is my sensibility about it, anyway. I’ll make sure it looks good before passing it to Sir Ridley to generate a crawl once the time comes.

R2’s hard drive lights… I really like how it is at present, finding it a sublime level of subtlety. I would not want to make it more obvious. It’s a nice ‘blink and you miss it’ thing, similar to Obi-Wan sneaking on board Padme’s ship as she heads to Mustafar, in edits that remove the “Jedi bathroom.”

I feel it’s the right thing to do to have the disclaimer in front of the movie. I opted not to include the glimmering FanEdit.org logo though, or my own logo, in order to minimize the effect you’re talking about, and to keep it silent as the film’s own opening logos are. V1 had the Hal9000 logo run post-credits, and I don’t think V2 will have it at all because most of the actual goods produced have been from you all! Maybe just the FE.org logo at the end. But I feel it’s… “responsible”… to have the silent text at the start. That or possibly a quick, silent FE.org logo or something. I understand why you would want to sit someone down in front of it without being aware that its an edit, and I would share in that, but I think it needs to be there.

And, NeverarGreat, I will see what I can do with your audio. Thanks for sending it; would not hurt to give it a try.

No worries and thank you so much for making this edit 😃

Regarding Kylo knowing Finn’s serial number, I think firstly that it does start to go outside the bounds of your edits goals as I can’t see how it relates at all to blowing up the Hosnian system at the end of the movie. It is your place of course to decide this seeing it’s your edit but if wanting to stick to this principle then I feel you need to reinstate this part of the scene. Secondly though, I feel it is an echo of how Vader could feel when Obiwan was on the Death Star in ANH and this scene helps further strengthen how Kylo is trying to emulate Darth Vader in using the same force ability to sense a person’s presence and there’s nothing to say he didn’t glean Finn’s serial earlier on by whatever means and reaches out with his force senses on the destroyer bridge to confirm for himself that FN-2187 is no longer on board or can feel him heading in the direction of the escaping Tie. The movie actually shows that he’d already noticed the oddly behaving stormtrooper on Jaku after the attack so it’s not a stretch at all to think he then checked up on the unit in some way.

Fair enough about everything else though I do have a few more comments:

  • the crawl seems to have a few words that look odd or out of perspective. In particular “AWAKENS” looks slightly squished, probably because of the way the font has pretty skinny Ws and Ms, whether the word could do with a slight horizontal stretch? Also “help” in the 3rd paragraph looks a little wonky, I think it’s an optical illusion caused by the slanted perspective so not sure what can be done here.

  • I understand what you mean about the fan edit blurb. I think you can just look at it like the anti-piracy blurb a lot of movies have anyway, even if you wanted to make it look more so like one so it clearly stands apart from the start of the movie (and makes sense anyway since its advocating you own a copy to be watching a fan edit).

The other thing I wanted to ask about was the music restructure video of the end SKB destruction scene. I noticed in one version that you see the falcon and remaining X wings flying away after it finishes imploding and then it just does a swipe transition back to the Resistance base. Is there any reason why the falcon and X wings jumping to hyperspace before the transition was removed? I feel this is an unnecessary change and quite liked watching and hearing them all jump away.

.Val

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#1073271
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STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"**ADYWAN** - **Suggestions now closed**
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jedimasterobiwan said:

INVAR said:

jedimasterobiwan said:

Are you being sincere or messing with me if so please KNOCK IT OFF I JUST WANT A STRAIGHT ANSWER SHEEESH!!

Do you really think you deserve a straight answer?

Tell you what - you will get to find out the answer to that question when you download ESB:Revisted and discover everything for yourself.

Only a little over a month to wait.

I thought he would have gave us an update on that as well that’s all.

If Ady was going to say something on it then he would have or will when he chooses to do so. Constantly hounding him is not going to get you anywhere except a lot of negative replies to give it up already.

You must unlearn what you have learned young padawan and become patient in your quest for more Revisited goodness.

It is obviously coming and literally just around the corner so cool your heels while waiting…

.Val

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#1073262
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Awesome Star Wars art (pic heavy!!)
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Darth Id said:

I think this thread is mistitled.
Based on this page, I think it’s supposed to be “Star Wars Shit Pics.”

It’s all in the eye of the beholder mate 😉 (personal preferences and everything)

There are some properly awesome works of SW art in this thread and there are some real doozies as well, I doubt anyone’s choices for each category would line up exactly with each other though.

.Val

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#1072945
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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So not sure if it’s just me but the destroyer in this image I’ve taken from the screen shot comparison looks bigger than the V2 video version. Can you confirm if this is the case NeverarGreat?

http://screenshotcomparison.com/images/1484549031_8295164307.jpg

Either that or the whole shot itself is zoomed slightly from the original? If so, I think it works better than the video as it feels more imposing and threatening while still obviously appearing some distance away yet.

.Val

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#1072926
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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NeverarGreat said:

JEDIT @ Val:

I noticed the lack of clouds in the second Star Destroyer shot as well, but it’s like that in the original film. I suppose I could add some more clouds to the second shot…it’s something to consider.

As for the R2 scenes, it’s a delicate line between being too obvious and making the audience wonder why nobody noticed the blinking lights and making it too subtle and having people miss it. I opted for subtlety, since people bothered by the conveniences would probably be more observant anyway. My brother suggested a slow zoom in to the panel. That could work.

I also agree with you about the fanedit info, but it’s not a big deal for me either way.

Ah ok, so it’s an inconsistency in the theatrical cut itself? Interesting, can’t say I noticed it before but then I’ve only seen the theatrical once or twice and perusing fan edit WIPs does tend to hone your attention to details such as these 😛 If that’s the case then maybe it’s not worth bothering with especially in regards to Hal’s mission regarding the edit.

I know what you mean regarding R2, along with the sound effects I think it is obvious enough. I think a slow zoom would be far too obvious, might as well place a big arrow pointing to it 😛 Though if it was only a very slight zoom that just “nudges” the viewer’s attention to that place in the image so they can’t help but notice the lights, then it might work…hard to decide without seeing it in action I guess.

I agree the fan edit info is not a huge deal but just something I wanted to mention / ask about.

.Val

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#1072924
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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Ok, so I’ve just finished reading all the pages in here prior to my first replies before continuing to comment in here (and because it’s all really quite interesting 😉 ). Below are a few comments I’ve made on some of the posts:

Hal 9000 said:

Well, it’ll still be a very focused edit on this particular issue, but there are a few minuscule things I’ll want to do. Nothing major, just things like removing Kylo Ren identifying FN-2187 by name on the bridge…

Just wondering why you felt this needed removing? After the first attack on Jakku, Kylo does look very pointedly at Finn for a few seconds, almost staring and he very well could have been using his force mind delve (whatever you call this new dark side force power) to note the particular storm trooper’s ID since Finn did look a bit odd standing there still amongst all the activity and staring back, so it’s not a great leap to think Kylo has made a similar easy leap to guess this is the storm trooper that helped Finn to escape, he may have even reached out with the force to check for the trooper (he does seem to pause for a second as if reaching out with his force sense before announcing who the trooper is) that he’d noted earlier on Jakku and found he could no longer sense his presence aboard the Star Destroyer and therefore it again is another easy logical leap.

batmatt92 said:

Hello! What a great idea for a fan edit. I quite like TFA as-is, but this really improves the only aspect that I thought was lacking in the finished film - Starkiller Base. I just watched V1 last night and thought it was great. I did have just one suggestion, though. And I think my reasoning for it might be hard to articulate, but I’ll try my best…

So, I think the surface shots of Hosnian Prime as it goes kablooey should be removed. For the hypothetical first-time viewer, the death of HAN FRICKIN’ SOLO is gonna be a pretty big deal, yeah? So as the Starkiller fires, the viewer is still gonna be reeling from that I think. That’s a very personal, human-level tragedy.

Now, I’m totally fine with the Starkiller firing on the Hosnian system right after that. I like the symmetry - Han’s death sort of signaling the turning point where EVERYTHING goes down the crapper. But! It seems to me like those shots on the planet surface were there in the original scene to add a human dimension to the event, like “Look! There’s PEOPLE here! They’re all gonna die! It’s SAD!” And yeah sure, that kinda sorta works in the scene’s original placement. But where it is now, I think the viewer doesn’t have much time to care about a bunch of random folks when they just saw Han Solo die. It’s enough to just see the planets explode from a distance. Han fulfills the human-level tragedy in a way, even though he’s obviously not on any of those planets.

It may sound strange, but he’s much more important to the audience than the billions of faceless, nameless people that die on those planets, ya know? So cutting away to the people on the surface kind of dilutes Han’s death, at least for me. It feels like the movie’s going “Oh yeah, Han Solo died, but also THESE PEOPLE!!!” and it’s too much. Does that make any kind of sense? I’m worried it doesn’t. Anyway, just a thought that I had. I can pretty easily do it for my own version if Hal doesn’t want to.

I thought this was very well articulated and made perfect sense, at least at the time of posting. Whether this would still work or not with the current line up of changes for V2?

Episode VII
THE FORCE AWAKENS

Luke Skywalker has vanished. In his absence, the sinister FIRST ORDER has risen from the ashes of the fallen Empire, plotting it’s return to power.

Failing to convince the NEW REPUBLIC to combat this emerging threat, General Leia Organa mobilizes a covert RESISTANCE while the First Order completes its devastating new weapon.

Desperate for her brother’s help, Leia has sent her most trusted pilot on a daring mission to Jakku, where a clue has been discovered to Luke’s whereabouts…

I think your new crawl is awesome but there were a couple of things I thought that might improve it ever so slightly. One is to add “as” before “to Luke’s whereabouts…” and the second is to really clear up that Leia does not know at this stage about the SKB.

Though in clarifying this, it does tend to lessen the impact of “Desperate” in the next paragraph as you think if she doesn’t know about the weapon then why is she suddenly so desperate where it actually makes more sense for her to be desperate if she knows about the weapon…it’s a bit of a catch 22 situation so maybe your current wording still works best here. It doesn’t say she knows about it (though it is slightly still implied even if coming after the blurb about Leia with the NR and Resistance) so it fits with the events later in the movie but it still also lends itself to the urgency in her desperate attempt to find Luke. Anyway, below is the crawl with my two suggestions incorporated, see what you think:


Episode VII
THE FORCE AWAKENS

Luke Skywalker has vanished. In his absence, the sinister FIRST ORDER has risen from the ashes of the fallen Empire, plotting it’s return to power.

Failing to convince the NEW REPUBLIC to combat this emerging threat, General Leia Organa mobilizes a covert RESISTANCE though unaware the First Order are also nearing completion of a devastating new weapon.

Desperate for her brother’s help, Leia has sent her most trusted pilot on a daring mission to Jakku, where a clue has been discovered as to Luke’s whereabouts…


Hal 9000 said:

Here are NeverarGreat’s two R2 scenes with proper audio and fully formatted. The only thing missing is a few sound effects for BB8 (head turns and rolling away). Anyone have any isolated FX already I could use?

https://vimeo.com/211322567

https://vimeo.com/211322617

Password: fanedit

These looks amazing, the only suggestion I have is maybe if you could make the “harddrive activity” lights ever so slightly brighter / more obvious? I found it a lot more obvious myself once I full screened the video but wonder whether it’s worth looking at again in the final pass?

NeverarGreat said:

Here’s a version with only the Star Destroyer emerging from the clouds:
https://vimeo.com/199518952
Password: destroyer

I don’t think this is the latest version, though I’m sure what my comments refer to still exists in the latest version and that’s simply that I find the clouds are too different between the two different shots of the destroyer in the sky. The first shot looks great (though I think there’s another version of the video with thicker clouds and the destroyer looking even larger in the screen? - this was my preferred version for this shot) but then in the second shot, the cloud that was partially obscuring the destroyer is now no where to be seen instead of still visible with the destroyer instead showing more of itself as it continues to slide into view.

Not sure if anyone else picked up on this but its something that catches my eye time and again.

I think that’s about it for now anyway 😛 I did have some other posts ready to quote but at this stage I can no longer remember exactly what it was I was going to say in reply anyway.

I do have one request for the edit though Hal whether you’d consider it and that is to move your blurb about it being a fan edit to after the end credits? It just feels like it spoils the atmosphere as you wait for the movie to start and get presented with a wall of text instead that blatantly points out you’re not watching the original where I like to believe that when watching it and present it as such to any family or friends I show it to and then afterwards I explain that it’s a fan edit and credit whoever the author is.

Anyway, V2 is shaping up really nicely and I can’t wait to watch the end result. A big thanks to yourself, all the contributors and the author of that article that started it all. Keep up the great work!

.Val

JEDIT: I don’t think I’ve got the latest crawl quoted above as I didn’t think I changed the end of the 2nd paragraph as much as it appears here. Looking for it now to update above 😉 - I’ve now updated the quoted crawl above as per Sir Ridleys last linked image example http://imgur.com/j2uZxjQ

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#1072873
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What is wrong with Attack of the Clones?
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eiyosus said:

This is an open letter to all ot.com users:

HansiG said:
Welcome to the internet. Enjoy your stay. /b/

No, actually. Originaltrilogy.com used to be above this sort of thing.

Hell, even though I’m a lurker I now feel like I need to speak up about what’s happened to this place as of late.

As mentioned elsewhere, there has been an influx of new users over the last few months (over the last year? I dunno. I’m not gonna go clicking on everybody’s account to see when they joined) and a large portion of these new users have some questionable attitudes regarding forum behavior.

Although I want to refrain from sounding like some cranky old man (I’m 34, if anybody is wondering), many of these new users allude to being VERY young when watching the prequel films. I had to google “/b/” and that was a reference to 4chan if I’m not mistaken, which further supports my suspicions (and more and more anime references are being used for user names). There is absolutely nothing wrong with liking what you like (that’s a general use of the word “you” which I feel the need to point out due to the fact that a majority of these new users don’t seem to understand certain things about the nuances of the English language), as long as it’s not harming anybody else, but ot.com was largly comprised of older individuals that conducted themselves a certain way over the many years this forum has been operating.

Ot.com was one of the very few places on the internet both I and others could visit with the knowledge that it would be free of, well, of the things it hasn’t really been free of lately. It’s hard to quantify, but something has been very off for a while, and only seems to be getting worse.

If people like the prequels, that’s fine, but I’m not going to hang out at my parents’ vinyl parties and try to tell them how good streaming albums from youtube is and spew juvenile insults when everybody rightly and justifiably has a problem with my attitude. Would you? Would you go to a gathering of something you didn’t like? Again, you can like the prequels, but you have to expect to meet opposition.

There is a way to discuss things in the world. Everybody has different opinions, which is one of the many things that make the world interesting, but almost every thread seems to be derailed into boring arguments lately. I can get that on IMDB. There’s a difference between interesting discussion and backhanded bickering that goes on for post after post, page after page, and thread after thread. Wars not make one great.

Taste is subjective, but myself and others on this site think that the prequels are objectively bad movies on a fundamental film making level. I love the movie Star Crash, but I’m not going to pretend that 90% of humans would find it horrible. Just because a movie has “Star Wars” in the title doesn’t give it a free pass (just the fact that people are DESPERATE to try to edit them into better movies shows the power of the name (just move on, guys! 😛 )). If somebody tells me Star Crash is shit, who am I to argue? Why let it bother me? It IS a shit movie! How in any way does somebody not agreeing with me give me the right to stoop to some of the language I’ve seen here? Again, not wanting to sound like a cranky old man, but respectable people don’t use the word “retard” or the other related insults a lot of teenagers use as an insult. I’m really sorry, but if that’s what you expect from the internet, this isn’t the forum you’re looking for. Move along.

All the heat that Frink is catching lately is just more proof of the point I’m trying to make. Frink is a long time member and contributor, and has a mean sarcastic sense of humor. An asshole? Really? A lot of users seem to be taking him literally as of late, which was never the case before.

Can we talk about the increase use of the word “fuck?” For the longest time, I thought curse words weren’t even ALLOWED here. Now every other post is fuck this, fuck that, fucking awesome, fucking whatever. I love the word “fuck” and use it on other forums, but long ago on a forum far, far away, when somebody on ot.com used “fuck” you knew they were being FUCKING SERIOUS. Hey, you wanna say fuck and shit and all that, go ahead, but if you took a look around the forums, you would have seen that this language wasn’t used often.

If you took a look around, you could have seen the behavior was different, too. Yeah yeah, it’s the internet, but just fucking behave like you would in real life, please.

This place was AMAZING in it’s film geekyness. The recent discussion about the type of camera lenses used on Rogue One is one fine example of the type of talk that once flooded this board. Many users on this forum have an insane level of film knowledge, but you are lowering the forum’s standards and diluting what was a very unique corner of the net.

Again, this is to nobody in particular. If my message insults you, if you get defensive over what I’ve said, if you think I’m attacking you, if you feel the need to explain yourself, then you know that your behavior is less than stellar. How about improving it? It might be fun!

Bravo! Well done and well said. Every time someone excuses someone else’s behaviour by saying “welcome to the Internet” I just sigh in disappointment. It’s not an untrue observation but it also does not mean this perception and behaviour needs to permeate into every online community simply because it is online…

.Val

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#1072231
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The Force Awakens - The Starlight Project
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NeverarGreat said:

I’m not sure how much better I can make this line, so for now this is where it stays:
https://vimeo.com/215060086
Password: ren

Sorry if it’s explained earlier, but what is the point of this change? Just rewatched this part in version 1 of Hal’s restructured TFA (which I’m assuming is unchanged from the original) and it’s not really any different from what you have him saying here in your edit? And if that’s as good as you can get it, sorry to say but I think this needs to be on your cutting room floor 😉

.Val

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#1071773
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STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"**ADYWAN** - **Suggestions now closed**
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jedimasterobiwan said:
I don’t like sounding like i’m pushy i don’t like it not one bit. I just want a nugget even if it’s a small nugget a nugget of info that’s all.

Contradiction 101 - Your second sentence above is being pushy after saying you don’t like sounding pushy.

Just take a break, focus on something else in your life for a few weeks and then come back likely (but no guarantees) to a nice surprise without having had the time in between now and then grind by as you continually hit F5…

.Val

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#1071017
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The Force Awakens: Official Review Thread - ** SPOILERS **
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NeverarGreat said:

rodneyfaile said:

It’s just so unbelievable in The Empire a Strikes back when Luke makes the lighsaber come to him in the wampa’s cave. I mean, he didn’t see anyone do that and wasn’t trained on it by Obi Wan. I wonder why they decided to make him so overpowered?

  1. He was already established as being strong in the Force from ANH, and it had been several years since that. It would be stranger if he hadn’t progressed at all on his own.

  2. This was early in the movie, where the filmmakers were re-establishing our leads and giving us an idea about how they had changed. Such a scene is essential character work.

  3. The music and cinematography sold the fact that something impressive and magical was going on.

Great points and they all ring so true.

.Val

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#1070767
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The Force Awakens: Official Review Thread - ** SPOILERS **
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Thread is starting to get seriously derailed…

Popped into the end of the thread to checkout recent comments on people’s thoughts about TFA and all I’ve been reading about for the past few pages is about whether Rey is a Mary Sue, why the term Mary Sue is sexist, whether Rey is a good role model or not…

I guess its all on topic in a way but I was expecting more “movie review” style posts 😉

.Valheru

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#1070765
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STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"**ADYWAN** - **Suggestions now closed**
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Guys if those last two replies are in response to mine, try to understand that I’m new here (to OT.com), I haven’t read all 1352 pages (read the OP and something like the last 2-3 pages) and there are so many sub-plots / sub-conversations going on in here that often I have no perspective on reading a reply other than actually reading it with no context whatsoever.

So if you’re going to laugh and roll your eyes at me, at the very least point out / explain what it is making you do so. Otherwise you might as well be trolls for all the sense it makes to me 😉

.Valheru

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#1070486
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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So just a quick bit of feedback after literally just watching your edit Hal. It was fantastic how it really improves the entire story and adds a lot more emotional impact to Han’s death and the fight afterwards between Kylo, Rey and Finn.

Strangely enough though I didn’t really seem to care all that much about the Hosnian system republic planets being destroyed as there is no footage or really any reference to them in any meaningful, impactful way earlier in the movie and having turned their back on the resistance it almost feels like a “I told you so” moment and there’s not a lot of sympathy despite the obvious (when you think about it) billions of people all dieing at the same time.

I think I found a slip up on your part, I can’t tell you the exact time stamp as was watching the VOBs via a VLC player playlist but it’s just after Han and the others disable the shields, the resistance has jumped in and start flying down towards the SKB, with the weapon port visible in the shot but not drawing the star in as it charges like it is in every other shot.

I also found the replacement effects at Maz’s temple a little underwhelming / unbelievable in regards to the Tie Fighter and landing craft animation. I think it would work much better just to show the Star Destroyer by itself sliding into view like Sir Ridley posted earlier in this thread. I think this example also had Finn’s audio fixed so he said “they’re here” instead of “they did it” which makes a lot more sense but still needs a tad more polishing to hide the change.

https://youtu.be/TqZeT7FN0c0

But otherwise excellent work and I thoroughly enjoyed your restructured version 😃

.Valheru

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