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#1085248
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Another Hobbit fanedit (Peter Jackson Edition)
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Just came across this randomly in my YouTube travels and found it quite good. Bit like the RedLetterMedia analysis on the prequels but without being feature length by themselves 😉

Thought it might be an interesting listen for yourself OP while on the matter of trying to fix The Hobbit movies with your edit. Below is part 1 of 5:

https://youtu.be/TijkFnT8D-U

.Val

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#1083627
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Didn't darth maul original die differently?
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I’m pretty sure the screening I saw in Australia didn’t have him cut in half as I have a memory of thinking he should have been cut in half and then years later when watching it on DVD seeing him cut in half and thinking “I’m sure he wasn’t originally cut in half?”.

With GL’s tendency to change things after you’ve already watched the movie, it didn’t seem out of the question at all. It could also be as some have suggested to pass stricter ratings in some countries which could very well have been the case in Australia at that time.

.Val

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#1083576
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Han Solo Movie ** <em>Spoilers</em> **
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Just in regards to the desert planet talk - If it’s simply for a visit to Jabbas palace at one stage then that’s fine but if a large portion of the movie is set on a desert planet then I will be a bit disappointed, especially if it’s Tatooine as then what always felt like a big and open universe in Star Wars is going to start feeling very small and constricted. The OT did a great job on expanding the universe with each consecutive movie and the PTs even did a certain extent despite continually returning to Tatooine. The ST and other anthology movies need to keep doing this rather than rehashing old ground.

.Val

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#1083408
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Another Hobbit fanedit (Peter Jackson Edition)
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Just had a quick look at your screen comparisons and I don’t know if it’s just my untrained eye for editing but the first lot look like they are quite a bit darker and the second lot of comparisons look like you’re adding A LOT of grain. How does it appear when actually viewing the film?

.Val

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#1083403
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Another Hobbit fanedit (Peter Jackson Edition)
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Deloreanhunter12 said:

I do plan on not having Peter Jackson as the main title. However, I do not agree that the versions of The Hobbit we got were Peter Jackson’s versions (even the extended cuts). I feel they are WB’s and New Line’s version. It is all due to this feature on the bonus features that made me feel lots of sympathy for Peter, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20vA9U7J2qQ , At least, that’s my two cents on it.

Hmm…I see maybe it was not all PJs fault in the end. Shame he didnt have the time to do it properly like LOTR and shame WB and the production companies felt they had to milk it for all it was worth (in creating 3 marathon movies from 1 normal sized book).

.Val

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#1082962
Topic
When Did The Star Wars Prequels Become Cool?
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joefavs said:

I’ve softened on the prequels ever since the new movies started coming out. When it looked like the series was over forever it seemed like a bigger deal, but now that Star Wars movies are going to continue indefinitely, I’m not bothered by three of them being pretty bad, in much the same way that I don’t get angry about a bad James Bond or Star Trek movie.

I get exactly what you mean, however 3 bad movies in a row that “technically” are at the start of the series is a lot to swallow and forgive in the larger picture that at this stage is still only 7 movies (not including RO since it’s not part of the actual episodic series).

But yes, with the PT no longer being where Star Wars “ended”, it’s not such a sour point anymore and the more good movies made on the other end of the series, the easier it will be to forget and not really care about the whole PT debacle (especially with plenty of fan edits to help make them somewhat watchable).

Regarding the prequels suddenly somehow becoming “cool”, to me it just smells of a bunch of millennials (read - not all of them by any stretch) trying to justify having childhood nostalgia and love of the PT. There’s nothing wrong with that but for them, they cant continue to love these movies if they are generally considered to be bad, cringeworthy movies so they’re trying to find creative ways on “explaining” how they are in fact “cool” movies if you would only understand it from a certain point of view… 😉

.Val

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#1080675
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Han Solo Movie ** <em>Spoilers</em> **
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Hardcore Legend said:

Tobar said:

Hardcore Legend said:

I’m not trying to rail against this film, I just think recasting the character in a window of 10 years before we see the character again sets a weird precedent. Are we all ok with a future film in which someone else plays Luke in between the OT and the ST?

Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989)
Young Indiana Jones Chronicles (1992)
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (2008)

Not a fan.

Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989) < Fan!
Young Indiana Jones Chronicles (1992) < Not a fan.
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (2008) < DEFINITELY NOT A FAN!!

.Val

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#1080426
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Star Wars Despecialized Editions - Custom Bluray Set
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dahmage said:

The copy fairy goes around and gives copies only to people who pretend not to want them.

(The copy fairy is a sucker for the ole reverse psychology trick)

The copy fairy can give my place a miss, I certainly don’t need a beautiful custom bluray set of Harmy’s DSEs…

.Val

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#1080241
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Awesome Star Wars art (pic heavy!!)
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Darth Id said:

Valheru_84 said:

Darth Id said:

Valheru_84 said:

LexX said:

Now THAT is properly awesome SW art!

.Val

Yeaaaahhhh…
I’m gonna hafta…
you know
disagree with you there, so…yeaahhhh…

—Da BoSS

So would you mind elaborating somewhat on what it is you find less than satisfying about this particular artwork? It’s an iconic scene from the OT that has been in my view, expertly recreated through art with a great eye for detail. I really cant fault it in anyway myself and simply leaves me in awe of the skill shown in creating such an artwork and in the emotion it triggers in me thinking back to the actual scene from the movie. To me, that is awesome SW artwork and I am really glad that LexX thought to post it in this thread and share it with us all.

I’m not sure why you felt you needed to go out of your way and state the fact you disagree with me specifically on this particular artwork and in the manner you did. The fact that you do disagree with me doesn’t bother me (eye of the beholder and all as I said previously) but I am wondering why you felt you needed to point it out to me as someone that does enjoy this awesome artwork and while we’re talking you might as well say what it is you don’t think is awesome about it?

.Val

It looks like one of those pastels of like George W. Bush getting blessed by Jesus while like Bill Frist and Tom Delay and shit stand in the background looking pious and proud like apostles and an eagle flies overhead with a squadron of F-15s and everything is soft and semi-transparent and totally incongruous with the militaristic subject matter.

Except that it’s none of that apart from looking like a pastel artwork. If the above is why you don’t like it though, fair enough. Not sure still why you needed to point it out in the way you did though as if there was plainly something wrong with it that I was obviously missing when it’s just your personal preferences on artwork style.

.Val

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#1079981
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Han Solo Movie ** <em>Spoilers</em> **
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joefavs said:

He was an impersonator, not an actor.

You might as well say all actors are impersonators though, since most of the time they are effectively impersonating a fictional character and if they do it well enough, you don’t realise and it’s called “acting”. Watch the below clip, if you still say he’s not an actor after that then I don’t know what it is that you consider acting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwLv993khfI

Sure he’s a great Harrison Ford impersonator but from what I’ve seen, he is a very capable actor and being able to personify a younger HF is only a positive in my books when looking to fill such a role.

.Val

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#1079727
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Post in this thread to request an invite to MySpleen.org (you *MUST* read the first post)
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Hey Guys,

Been around for a bit as a lurker and recently as an active member. Already have a copy of Harmy’s DSEs (among quite a few fanedits of the PT in trying to build a definitive collection) but only just stumbled across njvc’s awesome custom bluray set and would love to grab a copy for my own collection and was wondering (and hoping) if I could please get a myspleen invite.

Cheers,

.Val

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#1079713
Topic
Han Solo Movie ** <em>Spoilers</em> **
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So I think I understand people seem to be generally happy / ok with Alden Ehrenreich being cast as young Han Solo? But I’m not so sure, since to me he looks nothing like Han Solo / Harrison Ford. When they went to such lengths to CGI Tarkin and Leia’s faces in RO, I can’t understand why they’ve chosen an actor that does not for one second (looking at photos for now anyway) convince me I am looking at a young HS…

.Val

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#1079709
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Star Wars: The Anakin Saga
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A very interesting idea Shadester9, I’d be happy to give it a watch and post my thoughts on it if you’re happy to shoot me a PM?

Just some feedback on the title itself though as I’m personally not overly fond of “The Anakin Saga”. Even though the story told across a trilogy is about Anakin, it sounds like the focus is still more on the OT and therefore it is also largely about Luke. I would even say just on first impressions from reading your plans for the edits, that they centre around Luke still and are interspersed with flashbacks to Anakin who also bookends the trilogy as the overarching story arc. To me a more fitting name would be something like the below examples:

“Skywalker’s Redemption”

“Skywalker’s Story”

“The Skywalker Saga”

“Force Legacy”

.Val

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#1079526
Topic
Awesome Star Wars art (pic heavy!!)
Time

Darth Id said:

Valheru_84 said:

LexX said:

Now THAT is properly awesome SW art!

.Val

Yeaaaahhhh…
I’m gonna hafta…
you know
disagree with you there, so…yeaahhhh…

—Da BoSS

So would you mind elaborating somewhat on what it is you find less than satisfying about this particular artwork? It’s an iconic scene from the OT that has been in my view, expertly recreated through art with a great eye for detail. I really cant fault it in anyway myself and simply leaves me in awe of the skill shown in creating such an artwork and in the emotion it triggers in me thinking back to the actual scene from the movie. To me, that is awesome SW artwork and I am really glad that LexX thought to post it in this thread and share it with us all.

I’m not sure why you felt you needed to go out of your way and state the fact you disagree with me specifically on this particular artwork and in the manner you did. The fact that you do disagree with me doesn’t bother me (eye of the beholder and all as I said previously) but I am wondering why you felt you needed to point it out to me as someone that does enjoy this awesome artwork and while we’re talking you might as well say what it is you don’t think is awesome about it?

.Val

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#1077211
Topic
Another Hobbit fanedit (Peter Jackson Edition)
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Sounds interesting. Loved the LOTR trilogy (after having read the books all my life) but found I couldn’t bring myself to really even like The Hobbit trilogy. I wanted to like it but they threw so much filler in there along with overly extended and over the top action sequences (along with a lot of silly and unnecessary stuff as well) to be able to fill it out for 3 movies that I ended up quite disliking it and despising PJ for being a sellout in trying to milk the LOTR movies success and popularity.

The Hobbit should have been one long movie or two medium length movies at the most. And it should have been able to exist and succeed on its own rather than riding on the coat tails of LOTR and been purposefully tied into the LOTR in to many overly obvious ways that weren’t needed. Watching The Hobbit movies just felt like I was watching a crappier version of LOTR rather than a completely separate story that simply exists in the same world with some of the same characters and a very vague / obscure link to the events in LOTR via the one ring.

Anyway, keen to see what you do here 😃

.Val

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#1075657
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The Unofficial Complete REVISITED SAGA Ideas and Random Discussion Thread
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FVDnz said:

With speculation that Hayden Christiansen may return in The Last Jedi to reprise Force Ghost Anakin, will he remain at the end of ROTJR?! I know Adywan intends on reinserting Sebastian Shaw and all, but at the end of the day, he’s still not regarding the Sequel Trilogy is he? Maybe recreate a more decent looking Force Ghost version of Hayden compared to what we got recently possibly…

Keep Shaw in the OT and edit him into the ST if needed and possible or just cut out Hayden if that’s the case. The less Hayden in SW the better! I kid you not, I hated his performance far more than Jake Loyd’s as Anakin. And there was nothing wrong with leaving Shaw in in the first place since Anakin / Darth Vader is old when he dies anyway! Freaking GL meddling with things that ain’t broke!

.Val

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#1073966
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 **REVISITED** ADYWAN **720p HD version coming after ROTJ:R*
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Definitely an improvement Sanduni on the original and interesting that they did it by removing bits and pieces. All the same, I never have and never will have an issue with the original since that’s what I grew up watching and remembering and I think people need to remember and respect the time and age this movie was made in. Hindsight is 20/20 as they say but watching this for the first time as a kid, you never knew any better, you were sucked into the movie and seeing your first lightsaber battle was freaking awesome!

That aside, being Ady’s edit and essentially what the actual SEs should have been I wouldn’t mind seeing an upgraded fight just like you linked included in this version since I know I’m not watching the original theatrical. I’ll watch Harmys DSE for that ;D

.Val

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#1073694
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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NeverarGreat said:

I’ve listened to “The Starkiller” cue in the soundtrack enough that any change sounds off to me, so the musical splice between the first planet being destroyed and the shot of Sella is quite jarring in that context. Something that Danny Boyle said on the Sunshine commentaries has always stuck with me, and that is that sound is 70% of a movie. That’s why it’s so hard to get right, any wrong note is more unforgivable than even a wonky visual effect. In general, I think the best option is always to present the soundtrack as completely as possible.

Also, I wonder - is the score when Han dies the beginning of “The Starkiller”? They sound so similar, it might just be a case of sliding the cues around to match. This also makes me wonder if there was an edit of the film where the firing sequence happens here just like we’re trying to do.

Jackpumpkinhead said:

NeverarGreat said:

As it is in Restructured right now, there’s an odd key shift in two places where the ‘Starkiller’ track has been inserted. As well, there’s no reaction from the Resistance, so here I’ve tried to remedy both issues:
https://vimeo.com/215916349
Password: leia
There’s still a discordant sound when Han falls into the pit, but it could be further tweaked.
Thoughts?

Just watched this. I would say it all looks good, minus the fade out from Leia to the firing of SKB. I think you should either cut before we see her or hard cut after she reacts.

The reason for the fade was to de-emphasise the fact that Admiral Statura changes position so quickly between shots. I feel like the shot of Leia is essential to the cutaway, so it can’t be cut.

It might be worth it to remove the background characters from her ‘massive disturbance’ shot since they don’t look at all affected by the destruction of the Hosnian system.

I don’t think the characters behind her not reacting is a problem at all as I never for a second thought any of it was common knowledge at the Resistance base yet what had just happened. I took it as Leia feeling via the force Han dieing and the Hosnian system being wiped out right after, needing to sit down just like Obiwan does when Alduran is destroyed by the DS in ANH.

.Val

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#1073570
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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Hal 9000 said:

My thing with Ren identifying FN-2187 is that it seems strange that he called him by serial number, or would even be inclined to want to. But, eh, it’s probably more consistent with the overall project to put it back.

Not sure I understand as that’s all they’re identified by until Poe gives Finn his name? I can see how initially it may feel out of place for him to just pull it out of the air but the way he pauses alludes to some use of the force that gives him this information. Anyway, it’s exclusion doesn’t effect the main plot but I feel it might hurt his character development a little as its another scene that’s helping establish his power with the force for the audience and as I said earlier, draws some parallels with DV which is part of the overall story.

By the way, don’t take my mammoth length posts as droning on and trying to lecture you on any of the matters. I’m just not that good at writing in a compressed fashion so my posts tend to blow out as I try to make sure I’m being clear in what I want to say 😉

NeverarGreat said:

The reason for this was musical - in the original, the crescendo happens as Poe says ‘let’s go home’, but after that was cut the logical placement was right when the planet exploded into the star. But for that to work, there wasn’t quite enough time in the music to allow for the jump to hyperspace before cutting back to the resistance. Since the score continues uninterrupted long into that sequence, I didn’t want to change that.

Ah k, is there any way to include the few extra seconds of them jumping out and slightly speed up this section of footage (that doesn’t look obvious or out of place) just after the implosion has finished to make it fit within the window of time you have before we need to be back at the Resistance base for the correct musical cue? I’m thinking since it’s just the ships flying through space that you can almost make them whatever speed you want while still looking natural and the audience wouldn’t know as long as the sound effects still line up on the fly by past the camera.

.Val

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#1073293
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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Hal 9000 said:

Welcome, Valheru_84, and thank you for the input.

About Ren identifying FN-2187, it just seemed a little weird to me that he came up with the serial number like that. Not that it’s impossible, just weird. I don’t know; I could put it back how it was since it really is outside the goal.

About seeing the screaming people on Hosnian Prime… we are hoping to include the deleted scene in which Leia sends off her emissary, in which case it would be needed. And if not, it is beyond jarring to omit those shots and feature the ones right before and after.

About the crawl… I like it the way it is, partly because it is kept as close to the theatrical as possible, aside from deliberate changes made. I am very picky with the wording on these things, and don’t feel the need to have them comport 110% with the film itself. That is my sensibility about it, anyway. I’ll make sure it looks good before passing it to Sir Ridley to generate a crawl once the time comes.

R2’s hard drive lights… I really like how it is at present, finding it a sublime level of subtlety. I would not want to make it more obvious. It’s a nice ‘blink and you miss it’ thing, similar to Obi-Wan sneaking on board Padme’s ship as she heads to Mustafar, in edits that remove the “Jedi bathroom.”

I feel it’s the right thing to do to have the disclaimer in front of the movie. I opted not to include the glimmering FanEdit.org logo though, or my own logo, in order to minimize the effect you’re talking about, and to keep it silent as the film’s own opening logos are. V1 had the Hal9000 logo run post-credits, and I don’t think V2 will have it at all because most of the actual goods produced have been from you all! Maybe just the FE.org logo at the end. But I feel it’s… “responsible”… to have the silent text at the start. That or possibly a quick, silent FE.org logo or something. I understand why you would want to sit someone down in front of it without being aware that its an edit, and I would share in that, but I think it needs to be there.

And, NeverarGreat, I will see what I can do with your audio. Thanks for sending it; would not hurt to give it a try.

No worries and thank you so much for making this edit 😃

Regarding Kylo knowing Finn’s serial number, I think firstly that it does start to go outside the bounds of your edits goals as I can’t see how it relates at all to blowing up the Hosnian system at the end of the movie. It is your place of course to decide this seeing it’s your edit but if wanting to stick to this principle then I feel you need to reinstate this part of the scene. Secondly though, I feel it is an echo of how Vader could feel when Obiwan was on the Death Star in ANH and this scene helps further strengthen how Kylo is trying to emulate Darth Vader in using the same force ability to sense a person’s presence and there’s nothing to say he didn’t glean Finn’s serial earlier on by whatever means and reaches out with his force senses on the destroyer bridge to confirm for himself that FN-2187 is no longer on board or can feel him heading in the direction of the escaping Tie. The movie actually shows that he’d already noticed the oddly behaving stormtrooper on Jaku after the attack so it’s not a stretch at all to think he then checked up on the unit in some way.

Fair enough about everything else though I do have a few more comments:

  • the crawl seems to have a few words that look odd or out of perspective. In particular “AWAKENS” looks slightly squished, probably because of the way the font has pretty skinny Ws and Ms, whether the word could do with a slight horizontal stretch? Also “help” in the 3rd paragraph looks a little wonky, I think it’s an optical illusion caused by the slanted perspective so not sure what can be done here.

  • I understand what you mean about the fan edit blurb. I think you can just look at it like the anti-piracy blurb a lot of movies have anyway, even if you wanted to make it look more so like one so it clearly stands apart from the start of the movie (and makes sense anyway since its advocating you own a copy to be watching a fan edit).

The other thing I wanted to ask about was the music restructure video of the end SKB destruction scene. I noticed in one version that you see the falcon and remaining X wings flying away after it finishes imploding and then it just does a swipe transition back to the Resistance base. Is there any reason why the falcon and X wings jumping to hyperspace before the transition was removed? I feel this is an unnecessary change and quite liked watching and hearing them all jump away.

.Val

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