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- #415215
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- J. Williams & LSO, The EMPIRE STRIKES BACK <em>AUDIOPHILE EDITION</em> - Restored & Remastered Score (Released)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/415215/action/topic#415215
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It's finished now? Sweet. =)
It's finished now? Sweet. =)
Awesome! Thanks for putting this together man! =D
Happy Birthday ady! =)
AuggieBenDoggie said:
Marcos_Edson" said:
Does not look more overkill to me than having three star destroyers trying to catch the Falcon on Hoth when it fails to jump into hyperspace and almost colliding in the process... :) Or when a little later the whole fleet, Executor included, goes after them into an asteroid field... :) :)
The chase didn't happen on hoth, it started at hoth and ended at the asteroid field. Also the empirel fleet was already together so it made sense to have a few capital ships go after the Falcon, and the empire accomplished nothing by going into the field, except for alot of damage. If you notice during the course of the whole OT, every time they send a bunch of capital ships to go after one small one, nothing was accomplished. So what are you trying to accomplish by having more capital ships around the Executor during their escape from Bespine? The Falcon is going to get away no matter what, unless you want Ady to change that.
I really think you are to obsessed at making the empire so bad-ass looking over anything else. BTW, the empirel fleet never went to Bespine, Just Vader and the Executor. Thats why the Executor is the only ship by Bespine.
Ham Salad said:
Take it easy kid, it's only a movie!
;P
rcb said:
Akwat Kbrana said:
It doesn't really need a solution. Vader says to bring his shuttle, then we see him on his flagship. Anyone with half a brain can figure out that he flew to Executor in his shuttle.
If this kind of stuff really needs to be explained to the audience, then maybe Adywan had better add Ric Olie into the film...
well, yea it is common sense, but the audience has to be treated like they're brain dead.
It's this mentality that's destroying Hollywood.
I see this as an opportunity to promote what this site was founded for.
I'm goin'. I went to the last one alone, definitely seems like it will be more fun to go with friends.
BmB said:
I haven't actually read the script, I simply assumed this was true:
Tobar said:
I had always thought it was his hand. But according to the script:
There is an ominous cracking sound from the base of the weather vane and a piece breaks off, falling into the clouds far below.
It is, here's the whole bit:
EXTERIOR: BOTTOM OF CLOUD CITY -- WEATHER VANE -- DUSK
Unable to hang onto the pipe, Luke tumbles out, emerging at
the undermost part of Cloud City. Reaching out desperately, he
manages to grab onto on electronic weather vane.
LUKE: Ben...Ben, please!
Luke tries to pull himself up on the weather vane but slips
back down. He hooks one of his legs around the fragile
instruments. All the while, a powerful current of air rushes
out at him from the exhaust pipe.
LUKE: Ben. Leia!
There is an ominous cracking sound from the base of the
weather vane and a piece breaks off, falling into the clouds
far below.
LUKE: Hear me! Leia!
Got it from here.
I had always thought it was his hand. But according to the script:
There is an ominous cracking sound from the base of the weather vane and a piece breaks off, falling into the clouds far below.
Matticon said:
With all this talk of a US filming unit it has me very excited!!
Will we see Rebel Troopers and Snow Troopers fighting it out in the snow fields of Hoth?!?! It is something I suggested a long time ago (with others).
I do know that Lucasfilm originally had Snow Troopers in these scenes. A book (I lost years ago) called the Empire Strikes Back Notebook had storyboards as well as the script. In the story boards it had a couple of scenes of Snow Troopers running underneath the AT AT walkers.
Here is the book.
This is all very exciting and I wonder what Ady has truly planned.
Matticon
I was able to track down a copy, there are some AWESOME storyboards in here. Here's just a couple:
Yeah there's a bit of a difference in speed between region 1 (NTSC) and region 2 (PAL). Here's an article that can explain it better than I can. This is the most pertinent part of it though:
A less obvious effect of this 4% speedup is that the audio for the film is both 4% faster and 4% higher in pitch. In musical terms, this equates to a rise in pitch of a little under one semitone.
I think it's a nice start but everything seems to shift a bit too much. I think it needs more depth to establish the right scale.
Hey Ady, I know you're probably already done with the Tauntauns but I just had to share this neat video I just found:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6lQ5GG6bnI
Your work on the Tauntauns looks great, are you doing it manually?
That's awesome, thanks Ady Merry Christmas to you too. =)
I'm with those that think you should keep the AT-ST. It's only in there briefly but it would be missed.
That's awesome Ady, glad to hear she's doing great. =)
Because some help is better than no help? *shrugs*
You're a good son, I'll be praying for you and your family.
I'd be interested in seeing/hearing that INVAR. Would you be kind enough to post that on Youtube for us?
Hey guys, the official Star Wars twitter account just linked to zombie84's article: https://twitter.com/starwars/status/5655594185
Never thought I'd see that happen. =P
Update: This is spreading fast now theforce.net has posted it: http://www.theforce.net/latestnews/story/SW_Special_Editions_Restoration_Process_127626.asp
"Yippy!"
"That's wizard Annie!"
That sir, is beautiful.
Vaderisnothayden said:
Tobar said:
Vaderisnothayden said:
Tobar said:
They're referring to G-level canon which is George canon. Even if they weren't while I appreciate Splinter of the Mind's Eye for what it is, there's not a lot in it that can easily fit with the rest of the EU.
You have to remember, Lucas himself doesn't take the canonical status of the EU seriously, so it makes sense that some of his employees would dismiss it too, even if some others are busy promoting it as canon.
George himself has stated that there are different levels of canon. As well, the person who wrote that article was Pablo Hidalgo who is a big fan of and contributes to the EU regularly himself.
George himself has clearly stated the EU is a separate universe from his Star Wars and that it doesn't happen (he's given examples such as Luke marrying or the Emperor being cloned as things which don't happen). And I've read a lot said by George about canon, but I've never heard of him saying there's different levels of canon. I think you need to provide a quote for that.As for Hidalgo, just because he contributes to the EU doesn't mean he adheres to the fiction that it's canon.
That's what I mean when I say levels. When George gave the whole Father, Son, Spirit analogy. As for the Clone Wars team throwing the EU out the door, it's NOT them that's doing that. It's George. If it were up to Dave Filoni the whole show would strictly adhere to it because he's such a huge fan of it. However, since George decided to latch onto the project and basically take creative control over it all Dave can do is bring up as much of it as he can to try and preserve it.
C3PX said:
They made some pretty successful stuff during that time, it is ashame they literally ditched it all and stuck to mostly only SW and Indiana Jones titles from there on out.
Which is why thankfully Lucasarts has a new president in charge Darrell Rodriguez who loves their old legacy titles and has slowly been making them more available through digital distribution. He also partnered with Telltale games to create a new Monkey Island. As well as turning the focus of the company back to creating more original innovative titles, starting with their newest game Lucidity. So now we're slowly seeing Lucasarts turn back for the better.
Anyway, let's try and get back to the Clone Wars discussion. =P
C3PX said:
Tobar said:
George himself has stated that there are different levels of canon...
Which is a nicely done and diplomatic way of saying, "If I didn't write it, it didn't happen! Err.. but it did happen, because I want all this money from licensing... but it didn't actually happen, because I didn't write it. But- Buy that book!- it did happen, just not really. Okay... maybe it happened... a little. But not as much as the stuff I wrote happened, because that is the only stuff that really happened."
Maybe we should just say all EU is stuff Artoo dreamed about (do droids dream?), which would explain why some is quite pleasant, while other bits are downright weird, and other bits are absolutely nightmarish. So, Artoo really dreamed about it, giving it a solid place in the SW universe, but it didn't really happen. That is my new definitive explanation for EU!
If you wanna go down that route, then the way a lot of people look at is that the EU is like a series of history books. Since all of this happened a long time ago and no one living today was there, the retellings of the stories of what went on won't always be 100% accurate. Something along those lines anyway. He's never said that what happened in the EU happened, in fact when explaining the different canons he explicitly states that what happens in the EU doesn't have anything to do with what happens in his.
But on that note, what I do like about what they're doing with the Clone Wars and I mean specifically what Dave Filoni is doing. Is that he's a HUGE Star Wars fan, like a living encylopedia. So whenever they have story meetings and George comes up with something Dave will bring up what has already been done or covered in the EU and takes it to George. In this way, George can see it and then decide whether to include it or not. In this way at least we can still have some of the EU acknowledged.
Is it the perfect solution? No but so what, we the fans all have our own personal canons we believe in. Where the things that we like happened and the things that we didn't, didn't. Yes it's kind of sad that not all of it can fit together and play nice but given the number of hands and voices that have all contributed something to the galaxy there's no way it ever really could have. So we make do with what we have, it's our lot in life. =P