That_OT_Ruler

Lord Haseo said:

Well I’m not posting the majority of things I’m changing because the edit I’m making is for myself. If you’re making an edit for people to see I think it’d be best to listen to the people. No?

Also, you really should keep Rey’s theme though. There is no way in fuck you can tell me that it’s not a great piece of music and doesn’t fit her character.

Well, I expected more enthusiasm, but I guess that’s my fault. But making an edit for people to see doesn’t automatically mean you take every piece of consideration over your gut instinct. Suggestions and feedback are fantastic, and great for shaping the edit as a whole, but if the edit is something you want to see, you just do it. I’m not going to leave the original music in. It’s going. Simple.

Also, while Rey’s theme is very good, it sounded a bit much like Harry Potter music (Same composer, I know). I have mixed thoughts about keeping that one piece in, but not the others.

MalàStrana said:

That_OT_Ruler said:
—Soundtrack is completely removed and replaced with music from the previous films

TFA is not the best SW score … it’s nevertheless a terrific score, which fits perfectly the movie it is supposed to serve… I won’t say the Han Solo death scene is perfect, but the music is.

I disagree severely. The new music didn’t do any of that for me. I’ve listened to the soundtrack over and over, trying to appreciate it, like pieces such as The Scavenger, March of the Resistance, and so on, and I can’t remember any of them after listening, even though I try my best. Not only that, but the score was just horribly implemented into the movie. Lots of moments where music could be playing to help the scene, but it’s just silent. The score, in short, just didn’t have many memorable themes to it and it re-used old scores anyway, so why not just do the whole thing. As for the following movies, just like the original trilogy, new themes came along and added to the characters later on, with themes like Brother and Sister and Imperial March. May I remind everyone that the Imperial March didn’t come into the series until the fifth movie? Same thing can happen here with Kylo Ren. His theme, if the next score is good, can come in the next movie.

dkeighobadi said:

So I had a look at the bluray

You mean a blu-ray rip?

Lord Haseo said:

You should cue the song right after Kylo stabs Han because it won’t really sync up if you don’t.

Actually, it’ll play while they’re talking, and then after Han gets stabbed, the duel music from Return of the Jedi will play. So, it’ll go like this:

Han and Kylo talking on bridge:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52wByO_SFxA

Han after Kylo stabs him:
https://youtu.be/L63In39n86c?t=1m10s
At 1:10

And then when Chewie starts firing at stormtroopers, the music after Ben Kenobi dies in A New Hope plays:
https://youtu.be/WzU9UkVL1QA?t=8s
Kinda mirroring Luke’s reaction to Ben dying.

Lord Haseo said:

That_OT_Ruler said:
I’m just talking about little tiny moments I didn’t care for.

While some of the tiny moments didn’t work in TFA (and in the other films as well) they add up an give the film personality. And removing something like Finn being excited about blowing up a TIE Fighter or removing the “Did you see that!” line reminds me of the PT in which people did cool things but they never reacted to them at all which made them seem kind of robotic.

That is very true. I might keep that part in, but stuff like Finn saying, “Well this is what we look like.” I just really don’t care for.

darthrush said:

I have to admit that I find most of your changes would make me not have as enjoyable of a experience. Especially removing the entire score??? Ridiculous. Very difficult as a side note but Williams gave us great music, maybe not as great as the originals or episode 3 but the March of the resistance, I can fly anything, Kylo rens theme, Jedi Steps, Rey’s Theme!!! I advise against entirely removing a great soundtrack that people spent hours upon countless hours creating specifically for this film.

I didn’t like many of those themes, I’m sorry. I can appreciate why others can, but the score just didn’t do for me. It sounds good on its own, but it doesn’t work in the movie, just my opinion. As for not as enjoyable of an experience, I just want to remove a lot of the dumb unnecessary moments. I don’t mean remove all the heart, but just some moments that really just don’t need to be there. Yes, heartwarming and silly moments are important. They’re staying in. I’m just talking about little tiny moments I didn’t care for.

Lord Haseo said:

EDIT: This only pertains to Kylo Ren’s entrance though.

Oh… honestly, I was just going to replace Kylo’s theme with the march that plays when the Emperor arrives in Return of the Jedi.

Lord Haseo said:

The music in the immolation scene is absolutely beautiful, but I don’t care about Anakin at all so the scene falls a little flat for me. Whereas in TFA not only Han a great deal but I also have an emotional connection to Kylo Ren so smaller stuff like Han touching Kylo’s face after he’s stabbed hits me harder than even the “I hate you!” line in ROTS.

I’m actually adding that immolation music from ROTS to the scene where Han confronts Kylo. I have to do it.

The music I was gonna use for the intro, was the unused opening for The Empire Strikes Back, part of the opening music from A New Hope, and part of the Asteroid field music from The Empire Strikes Back. It’ll be a mix of the three. Trust me, you’ll like it.

Here’s the first part of the song:
https://youtu.be/bCzGXiAWuoI?t=1m26s
1:26 to 2:29

Second part of the song:
https://youtu.be/j1pf6s8MGrs?t=2m18s
2:18 to 2:40

Third part of the song:
https://youtu.be/vVulaCFNL4A?t=3m42s
3:42 to 3:55

Fourth part of the song:
https://youtu.be/vVulaCFNL4A?t=14s
0:14 to 0:40

Fifth part of the song:
https://youtu.be/vVulaCFNL4A?t=1m40s
1:40 to 2:03

And so on. My soundtrack overhaul is a mix and match of all the music from all six films.

Lord Haseo said:

It’s also going to be very hard to find music that goes along with the beginning of the film like The Attack On The Jakku Village does. Especially when Kylo Ren is introduced because the music cue when he’s introduced is phenomenal.

I actually found a track that perfectly matches up with what happens. I personally love it.

DominicCobb said:

You’re honestly telling me “did you see that?” is a line that would have felt out of place in the OT? Luke easily could have said that instead of “I got him!” Was Han’s “Great kid, don’t get cocky!” not “street slang” too?

I’m sorry, it just sounds off to me. I don’t think it fits. That’s why I’m removing it.

They could’ve summed it up in a couple seconds. Bringing it up at all without answering just isn’t necessary either.

Literally no explanation would have satisfied people like you.

People like me? Jeez, I don’t need a grand explanation or something, but to bring it up, just to ignore it, is purposely being lazy. I’m cutting the line of Han asking and her shrugging it off, because the moment served no purpose in the long run. Bringing it up and not answering = pointless. I don’t care what the explanation is, I just want something. That’s it. No, I wouldn’t complain about what I got.

Lord Haseo said:

That_OT_Ruler said:
As for the street slang, Finn yelling, “Did you see that?! Did you see that?!” just sounded like something from a generic modern action movie, not Star Wars.

That still has nothing to do with street slang…

I think I have the wrong word, yeah.

towne32 said:

Not sure why I’m discussing it since I don’t like your other changes. I guess those ones were more expected from some of the people around here.

Hey, any suggestions are appreciated. Nothing wrong with having a conversation. Thanks! I’ll see about doing a scene-by-scene color correction.

DominicCobb said:

—Soundtrack is completely removed and replaced with music from the previous films
-Some scenes will have a complete sound overhaul (New sound mix with TIE fighters effects, etc.)

Why?

Because the soundtrack disappointed me greatly. Simple as that. It’s my edit.

-FINN NOW SUCKS USING A LIGHTSABER

Already does.

But now he’s even worse than he already was.

-Removal of Finn’s yelling street slang, “DID YOU SEE THAT?!”

There is nothing about that that is “street slang” and also you’re probably a racist.

How does that make me racist? I just don’t think that kind of modern talk sounds right in a space opera that takes place “a long time ago.”

-Finn no longer whooping after hitting TIE fighter

Are you just trying to remove any sense of personality from Finn?

Just some of the dumb moments. The rest of his scenes are all intact.

-Remove Maz’s awful line, “A good question, for another time.” (Basically, the writers acknowledging they wrote a shitty script)

More like acknowledging that providing an explanation would be pointless and unnecessary and only serve to waste time.

They could’ve summed it up in a couple seconds. Bringing it up at all without answering just isn’t necessary either.

-Re-insert X-Wings hovering over water shot from the trailer

Already in the movie.

There was another shot of the X-wings that was cut.

-Cut down Kylo chasing Rey in the forest and put in music from EA’s Battlefront

This sequence has easily some of the best music in the film.

I disagree.

-Cut out the interrogation sequence between Rey and Kylo (There’s no point to it)

Except it’s the whole reason Rey was kidnapped.

Kylo doesn’t get the chance to interrogate her.

towne32 said:

You mean the yellow color specifically in Harmy’s 2.5 that was later determined to be partially a mistake that I did in fact spend two months removing. Haha, interesting choice unless you’re referring to another yellow source. 😉

Lol, it is partially influenced by that, but in all honesty, some of the colors in TFA really bothered me. Way too many blues. So, I had to apply a yellow tint to get some of the colors back to how they would’ve looked in the original trilogy.

Finn has probably never flirted with a girl in his life so him being kind of awkward is natural though it can me cut down some.

That’s true, and a lot of that is staying in, but some of the awful cringe-worthy moments are going.

He’s gonna take a piss on the film.

xD. I like that. Actually, it’s a yellow color tint that is meant to replicate the colors of A New Hope.

As for the interrogation scene, there’s no real point to it, as the force awakens inside her when she touches the lightsaber in the previous scene. You could say it further develops her ability to use the force, but I found it more interesting to see her grasp the concept of the force on her own, without having someone trigger it. The other reason is, I found it more dramatic for Kylo to only reveal his face later, when his father asks him to do it.

As for the street slang, Finn yelling, “Did you see that?! Did you see that?!” just sounded like something from a generic modern action movie, not Star Wars.

If you have any other suggestions, please feel free to comment back. Thanks!

Hey guys, posting here again.

I posted my thoughts for a fan edit months ago, but with the Blu-ray just coming out, I’d like to share my ideas and what I will definitely be doing in the fan edit.

Working title: SAVING THE FORCE AWAKENS
Fan Edit by That_OT_Ruler

*MAJOR CHANGES
-Color correction (Yellow finalized tint)
—Soundtrack is completely removed and replaced with music from the previous films
-Some scenes will have a complete sound overhaul (New sound mix with TIE fighters effects, etc.)
-Removal of the Rathtar squid sequence (The whole thing is going bye-bye)
-Removal of almost all fanservice and callback moments, except for shit like Rey’s helmet and the AT-AT
-FINN IS NO LONGER AWKWARD AROUND REY (Removal of stupid lines like, “Well this is what we look like.”)
-Put back in shots that were cut from the trailers
-FINN NOW SUCKS USING A LIGHTSABER

*MINOR CHANGES
-20th Century Fox logo and theme is implemented
-Custom title crawl?
-Removal of Poe’s stupid line, “You talk first, I talk first?”
-Removal of Poe’s other stupid line, “You need a pilot?”
-Removal of Finn’s yelling street slang, “DID YOU SEE THAT?!”
-Removal of extra explosion after TIE fighter sinks into sand
-Cut down Rey’s fight in marketplace
-No gag of Finn drinking water next to giant beast
-Other miscellaneous dialogue removal (I saw the movie 4 times, but I can’t remember everything)
-Finn no longer whooping after hitting TIE fighter
-Remove entire pointless sequence of Finn talking to BB-8 and asking him to tell Rey the location of the Resistance base
-Remove line, “You got a boyfriend? Cute boyfriend?”
-Remove Rey telling Han that he did the kessel run in 14 parsecs
-Removal of entire Rathtar squid scene. It just cuts from Han talking to Lord Snoke
-Cut out Chewie being injured to keep continuity with previous cut
-Other miscellaneous dialogue cuts during scene with examining map
-Remove the reactions of the people watching the planets getting blown up (So unrealistic)
-Remove Maz’s awful line, “A good question, for another time.” (Basically, the writers acknowledging they wrote a shitty script)
-Trim down and cut out shots and parts of the raid on Maz’s castle
-Re-insert X-Wings hovering over water shot from the trailer
-Cut down Kylo chasing Rey in the forest and put in music from EA’s Battlefront
-Cut out the interrogation sequence between Rey and Kylo (There’s no point to it)
-Cut out Kylo’s thrashing around saber rage
-Cut out more jokes with Finn
-Reinsert Kylo walking in forest shot from Teaser 1
-Finn’s fight with Kylo is much shorter, and downright pathetic. Finn lasts less than 40 seconds
-Rey and Kylo’s fight sequence is put together (It doesn’t cut away to X-wings)
-Movie fades out on Luke’s face, not the awful helicopter shot

Those are basically all the edits I plan to fully implement. When you watch a movie in the theater a number of times, especially with a photographic memory, stuff sticks with you.

No deleted scenes will be put into the edit, as the Timecode problem makes it impossible.

Now, this is where I NEED YOUR HELP. I’m not sure what the 7.1 audio track will be like when the Blu-ray comes out. Will the music be present in every channel? Or will the music be in its own separate channel? Regardless, I NEED SOMEONE TO HELP ME remove the music from the film, leaving only the vocals and sound effects. It doesn’t have to be perfect, but I REALLY NEED HELP WITH THIS to make this edit work.

I also need help with creating a new title crawl, something similar to what HAL9000 did for his prequel edits.

YOU WILL BE CREDITED IN THE FILM FOR HELPING OUT.

I would like to thank you for reading, and I can’t wait to share what I’m going to put together.

Lol, Disney did that on purpose, to prevent fan edits.

STAR WARS
THE PHANTOM MENACE
RETURN OF THE JEDI
EMPIRE
REVENGE OF THE SITH
ATTACK OF THE CLONES

THE FORCE AWAKENS

The original Star Wars music, especially the Battle of Yavin, is one of my favorite scores of all time, besides all of Quentin Tarantino’s movies. The Phantom Menace score is just as amazing in my opinion.

Ahahahahaha. I love how Mad Max won 6 Oscars, but Episode 7 didn’t win anything. Mad Max and The Hateful Eight FTW.

I don’t know, because I haven’t read any of the books…

At the end of the day, can we all just agree that we all have opinions? There is no one opinion that is fact. If you enjoyed it, great! If you hated it, that’s fine too. I see it from both sides, as the movie has positives, but also some pretty low lows. I know this movie is going to divide the fanbase again, as the dislikers are pretty passionate, as well as the fanboys. We all have our faults, but the best thing to do is to not criticize the person, or the critiques. As HelloGreedo himself said, “People love what they love. There’s nothing wrong with that. To each his own.”

One thing I need to wait for is the deleted scenes. I might only cut the interrogation scene if there’s a better scene to replace it. Apparently, there’s tons of deleted stuff that might really improve the film if put back in. Considering I didn’t much care for the film overall anyway, I’m actually really interested in seeing the deleted content. What about that extra scene in the snow with Kylo (no mask) that we’ve seen footage of? What’s that all about? Looks interesting.

Kingherb said:

I just wish Kylo Ren only took his mask off in front of Han Solo, the rest of the movie he could should have kept it on, but perhaps the mask had some sand caught inside it from the planet Jakku which was coarse and rough and irritating…

That’s what my edit is going to do.

I know this is a very controversial edit, but I’m removing the interrogation scene between Rey and Kylo. Vader never interrogated Luke, so it makes it more powerful that Rey’s ultimate confrontation with Kylo is a battle.