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#1133950
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

chyron8472 said:

Seriously, I, speaking only for myself, know no women who have a problem with women covering their breasts in public. Talking about decency laws that enforce cultural norms to that effect are a bit of a different topic, because that gets into what the penalty is or should be.

Women covering their breasts in public does not intersect with decency laws that enforce culture norms and contain penalties?

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#1133933
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

With that said, I don’t think women everywhere should suddenly go topless. We have enough assault/harassment problems as it is.

In theory I think everyone should be able to go topless if men can go topless. In practice I suppose it’s kinda like gun ownership - I think in theory it could (should?) change but because the current system is so entrenched I see the problems in trying to change it.

Solution? Dunno. I can’t even remember how we got here (this time). Last time it was Warb’s aversion to women breastfeeding in public, which is ridiculous. This time I think the conversation is a bit more grey.

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#1133915
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Handman said:

Frink, you wouldn’t have any issue if your wife or daughter walked around topless?

Nowhere did I say I think women should walk around topless. I merely disputed Warb’s assertion that men’s and women’s bodies are treated equally.

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#1133913
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

Men can walk around without a shirt, women can’t.

Yes. To which I say, “So what?”

So their bodies are treated as more obscene than men’s. That’s all I’ve been saying the whole time, which was in direct response to Warb saying they aren’t, and I cannot understand how he (or you, apparently?) doesn’t understand or agree.

My point earlier, in comparing his position to yours, was I think your and his arguments have different underlying assumptions that don’t match. You are making an argument against a position he didn’t make, because you inferred information he didn’t communicate.

Warbler, in classifying women’s breasts as private parts, are equating all private parts, women’s and men’s, as equally obscene. Meanwhile, you are saying that women, because they have more private parts, are on the whole considered more obscene. I think these are arguing two different things entirely rather than directly opposing each other.

I give up.

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#1133899
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

DominicCobb said:

Women’s hair is different than men’s. I guess we need to cover that up.

Now that I think of it, women’s faces are different too. We should probably also cover that up.

Don’t forget ankles. Those totally get me hot.

Not to mention shins. No self-respecting woman Doctor would show those off.

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#1133897
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

Men can walk around without a shirt, women can’t.

Yes. To which I say, “So what?”

So their bodies are treated as more obscene than men’s. That’s all I’ve been saying the whole time, which was in direct response to Warb saying they aren’t, and I cannot understand how he (or you, apparently?) doesn’t understand or agree.

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#1133891
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

“A woman’s body isn’t treated as anymore obscene than a man’s.”
“Tell that to the top half of a woman’s body.”

How is this a confusing or controversial response? Is it wrong? Men can walk around without a shirt, women can’t.

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#1133882
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Frank your Majesty said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

Possessed said:

Nobody is telling women to go topless. All we are saying is a woman’s body shouldn’t be treated as obscene.

A woman’s body isn’t treated as anymore obscene than a man’s.

Tell that to the top half of a woman’s body.

Really?

Men can walk around without a shirt, women can’t. You’re still saying a woman’s body isn’t treated any more obscene than a man’s?

What are you even talking about?

Women have to cover their private parts, men have to cover their private parts.

But what makes a woman’s nipple more private than a man’s?

Read Chyron’s post.

chyron8472 said:

[snip] (accidental quote instead of edit.)

I don’t get it?

chyron cut off the man’s penis in the example so now he’s a woman and therefore more obscene.

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#1133878
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

Possessed said:

Nobody is telling women to go topless. All we are saying is a woman’s body shouldn’t be treated as obscene.

A woman’s body isn’t treated as anymore obscene than a man’s.

Tell that to the top half of a woman’s body.

Really?

Men can walk around without a shirt, women can’t. You’re still saying a woman’s body isn’t treated any more obscene than a man’s?

What are you even talking about?

Women have to cover their private parts, men have to cover their private parts.

What the fuck.

I’m starting to think you’ve never seen a woman.

???

By private parts I’m assuming you are talking about the penis and the vagina. Yes?

We were talking about the top half of the body, which unless something is really wrong with you has no penis or vagina.

Warb - Women’s bodies aren’t treated as any more obscene than men’s bodies
Frink - Top half of woman’s bodies are treated as more obscene
Warb - ???
Frink - WOMEN HAVE BREASTS THAT ARE EXPECTED TO BE COVERED UP, MEN DON’T
Warb - But penis and vagina???
Frink - [breaks keyboard]

What is the confusing part?

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#1133868
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

As far as not wearing a bra, I’ve been married long enough to know that there is something to be said for the support they give with regard to any amount of exercise.

You had to be married to know this?

I had to have a relationship with a woman that was close enough and for long enough that she would tell me this, yes. One can not assume that because they bounce given no support that such bouncing can be uncomfortable or painful. I didn’t know this, nor did it occur to me, because I don’t have breasts.

Wow, ok.

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#1133867
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

Possessed said:

Nobody is telling women to go topless. All we are saying is a woman’s body shouldn’t be treated as obscene.

A woman’s body isn’t treated as anymore obscene than a man’s.

Tell that to the top half of a woman’s body.

Really?

Men can walk around without a shirt, women can’t. You’re still saying a woman’s body isn’t treated any more obscene than a man’s?

What are you even talking about?

Women have to cover their private parts, men have to cover their private parts.

What the fuck.

I’m starting to think you’ve never seen a woman.

This post has been edited.

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#1133862
Topic
Ranking the Star Wars films
Time

I have no problem with someone ranking TFA or RO or ROTJ at the very bottom on an enjoyment/personal preference basis.

Which isn’t to say I think you aren’t crazy though. 😉

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