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#1171698
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Rask40 said:

removing guns (or certain type of guns) from millions of law abiding citizens… would be illegal.

Make it legal then. Laws are changeable, they aren’t “written in stone”, like commandments handed down from God. If the 2nd Amendment is an outdated and unhelpful piece of law, just get rid of it, or rewrite it to introduce an element of sanity and/or common sense.

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#1171490
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Warbler said:

CatBus said:

There’s also the inherent problem of solving the problems of guns in schools by intentionally putting more guns in the schools. Basically the same thing as with homes: we know that having a gun in your home makes your family less safe, is that also true for schools?

look all I know is

A: nut comes into school, no one there has a gun: nut kills a lot of kids and teachers

B: nut comes into school with armed guards: nut tries to kill a lot kids and teachers and gets killed in the process. less kids and teachers are dead than would have been.

Also most of people who have guns in their homes aren’t trained police officers.

C: nut doesn’t have a gun, therefore he doesn’t come into school (and probably just trolls people on the internet to get his “vengeance on society”)

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#1169230
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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I watched a rather fine play yesterday about the Roman orator Cicero (Imperium Part I & II by the RSC). For the vain, pompous and ridiculous figure of the then “past it” General Pompey Magnus they had the actor in a Trump style wig and at one point he belows to the audience that he has always been “A good Republican”. Oh how we laughed.

Pompey demanding that Rome put on a military parade in his honour was just an added comic bonus that the writers could not have foreseen when they wrote it.

Not a million miles away…

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#1163580
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Frank your Majesty said:

TM2YC said:

“What? I can buy a car that will drive me home from the pub when I’m sh*tfaced and I won’t get arrested? No more orange juice. Sign me up. It’s only 99% safe you say? Still sign me up.”

Human nature.

99% safe is still better than most human drivers, though.

I wasn’t making a comparison between the dangers of the two.

I’m saying vulnerability to hacking isn’t going to really factor into people being unwilling to adopt driver-less-cars (which was the original point I was replying to) because it doesn’t seem to really factor into most people buying any other device/product.

I think we agree on their relative safety.

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#1163493
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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ray_afraid said:

TM2YC said:

Warbler said:

SilverWook said:

Does the average person trust a machine to do the driving? How hacker proof are these driverless cars? Ordinary cars with wireless connections have already been hacked into.

Warbler said:

I guess it depends when the technology will be reliable enough.

Were both exchanging posts on devices that are wide open to hacking and yet we still bought them.

Someone hacking my cell phone isn’t nearly as scary as someone hacking my car.

I wasn’t meaning to compare the two, I was saying that people will buy driverless cars in 20?? even if they are not at all safe from hacking. In the same we buy phones and PCs that are not safe from hacking now because we can’t live without in 2018, or they just make life easier.

Many people today seem quite happy to install 1984-style omnipresent surveillance units in their homes and pay for it too, just so they can order a pint of milk without getting off the sofa.

“What? I can buy a car that will drive me home from the pub when I’m sh*tfaced and I won’t get arrested? No more orange juice. Sign me up. It’s only 99% safe you say? Still sign me up.”

Human nature.

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#1162938
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Warbler said:

SilverWook said:

Does the average person trust a machine to do the driving? How hacker proof are these driverless cars? Ordinary cars with wireless connections have already been hacked into.

Warbler said:

I guess it depends when the technology will be reliable enough.

Were both exchanging posts on devices that are wide open to hacking and yet we still bought them.

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#1161348
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Bit of British politics for a change:

UKIP leader Henry Bolton’s model girlfriend was caught texting racist things and by racist I don’t mean, slightly ill-judged, I mean full-on Nazi Doctrine stuff. She’s giving her charming reaction to Prince Harry’s new fiancee being a mixed-race American:

“I wouldn’t with a Negro”
“Her seed will taint our Royal Family”
“This is Britain, not Africa”

After announcing he would make a statement this afternoon, which everybody naturally expected to be his resignation, Bolton fronted it out and said he’d “Drain the swamp” in his party. Wow. His self-delusion is almost impressive. Whatever illness Trump has, Bolton must have caught it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42770361

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#1161334
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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yhwx said:

I don’t get so many people’s obsession with public figures’ infidelity.

Only when those figures are presenting themselves as pious, moral, family men.

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#1160638
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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TV’s Frink said:

TM2YC said:

TV’s Frink said:

TM2YC said:

Your Government shutting down your Government is f**king insane no matter the reason, explanation, or persons to blame. Just checking that y’all know that.

The actual effect to most people (not all) is minimal…depending how long it is shut down of course. And essential services (which is maybe in the eye of the beholder but includes things like national security) are not shut down.

Regardless, if this is the only leverage Democrats have to force the protection of immigrants who are undocumented through no fault of their own, as well as restoring insurance to children (which the shitty Republicans took away) then I’m all for it…no matter what Schumer said previously or will say tomorrow.

This may seem blindingly obvious… If the party of Government can’t pass a bill on their own, they should make concessions until the other party (or parties) gives them the required votes. That’s democracy (or at least it is when you have a properly functioning Democracy).

A “shutdown” is nobodies fault but the party of Government. If they wanted to pass any bill they damn well liked (screw anybody else), then they should have got a bigger majority at the polls. They didn’t, so they need to deal with that fact and compromise like adults and not behave like petulant children.

I’m not exactly clear who you are calling petulant children. The Republicans, Democrats, or both?

Whoever is the majority party (in this case the Republicans).

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#1160622
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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TV’s Frink said:

TM2YC said:

Your Government shutting down your Government is f**king insane no matter the reason, explanation, or persons to blame. Just checking that y’all know that.

The actual effect to most people (not all) is minimal…depending how long it is shut down of course. And essential services (which is maybe in the eye of the beholder but includes things like national security) are not shut down.

Regardless, if this is the only leverage Democrats have to force the protection of immigrants who are undocumented through no fault of their own, as well as restoring insurance to children (which the shitty Republicans took away) then I’m all for it…no matter what Schumer said previously or will say tomorrow.

This may seem blindingly obvious… If the party of Government can’t pass a bill on their own, they should make concessions until the other party (or parties) gives them the required votes. That’s democracy (or at least it is when you have a properly functioning Democracy).

A “shutdown” is nobodies fault but the party of Government. If they wanted to pass any bill they damn well liked (screw anybody else), then they should have got a bigger majority at the polls. They didn’t, so they need to deal with that fact and compromise like adults and not behave like petulant children.

(My limited knowledge of the fine details of US voting aside)

yhwx said:

Some federal employees get some days off. The actual economic and long-term political effect is actually minimal.

Quick Wikipedia search: During the 2013 shutdown Standard & Poor’s, the financial ratings agency, stated on October 16 that the shutdown had “to date taken $24 billion out of the economy,” and “shaved at least 0.6 percent off annualized fourth-quarter 2013 GDP growth.”

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#1160601
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Your Government shutting down your Government is f**king insane no matter the reason, explanation, or persons to blame. Just checking that y’all know that.

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#1156311
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Warbler said:

Jeebus said:

Warbler said:

Oprah appeals to the more liberal minded people. But if you want Trump gone, we need someone that will appeal to the moderate and conservative-light people. Obviously the liberals are going to vote for the Democrat whoever it is. But the moderates and conservative-light people need to be won over.

Alternatively, and probably more easily; get someone that actually excites the liberal base—get the non-voters to go out and vote. Going right isn’t always, or even usually, the answer.

the liberals alone can’t elect a President.

They managed to elect Trump by staying at home.

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#1156205
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Warbler said:

I’m just curious, other than not being Trump, what qualifications does Oprah have for being President?

You need qualifications anymore? Well assuming you still do…

She makes a well thought out political/social speech, with detail, content, reasoned conclusions and persuasive arguments… that fired people up. That’s a pretty damned important skill for a politician (or so we used to think).

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#1155836
Topic
Survivors' Enclave From Another Fanediting site (.org regroup thread)
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TV’s Frink said:

I’ll post that info to the team.

Thanks.

Update. I tried switching off wi-fi on my iPhone and then was able to access the forum on my data. So something has changed since yesterday that is preventing the site being accessed from my IP/ISP or something else?

I also tried from a second PC on the same network and it’s blocked.

SO FAR… no other website is giving me any problems.

Hope that info helps.

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#1154964
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

People are always making fun of the “How does nobody realise Clark is just Superman in glasses?!?” thing but when Dr.Evil simply puts on a pair of glasses and writes a book on Trump, I’m the only one who notices!

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#1143281
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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yhwx said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/cdc-gets-list-of-forbidden-words-fetus-transgender-diversity/2017/12/15/f503837a-e1cf-11e7-89e8-edec16379010_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_hp-in-the-news%3Apage%2Fin-the-news&utm_term=.897b3297c431

The Trump administration is prohibiting officials at the nation’s top public health agency from using a list of seven words or phrases — including “fetus” and “transgender” — in official documents being prepared for next year’s budget.

Policy analysts at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta were told of the list of forbidden words at a meeting Thursday with senior CDC officials who oversee the budget, according to an analyst who took part in the 90-minute briefing. The forbidden words are “vulnerable,” “entitlement,” “diversity,” “transgender,” “fetus,” “evidence-based” and “science-based.”

In some instances, the analysts were given alternative phrases. Instead of “science-based” or ­“evidence-based,” the suggested phrase is “CDC bases its recommendations on science in consideration with community standards and wishes,” the person said. In other cases, no replacement words were immediately offered.

The Department of Health and Human Services, which oversees the CDC, “will continue to use the best scientific evidence available to improve the health of all Americans,” HHS spokesman Matt Lloyd told The Washington Post. “HHS also strongly encourages the use of outcome and evidence data in program evaluations and budget decisions.”

The question of how to address such issues as sexual orientation, gender identity and abortion rights — all of which received significant visibility under the Obama administration — has surfaced repeatedly in federal agencies since President Trump took office. Several key departments — including HHS, as well as Justice, Education, and Housing and Urban Development — have changed some federal policies and how they collect government information about lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender Americans.

That idea sounds double-un-good.

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#1136916
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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TV’s Frink said:

And here we go.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/01/us/politics/michael-flynn-guilty-russia-investigation.html

President Trump’s former national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, will plead guilty on Friday to lying to the F.B.I. about a conversation with the Russian ambassador last December.

The plea was the latest indication that Mr. Flynn was cooperating with the special counsel’s investigation into Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential election. Mr. Flynn was scheduled to appear in federal court in Washington at 10:30 on Friday morning.

Popcorn shares are up.

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