Stotchy

And on Spleen.

We plan to follow the same standard as the 4kxx releases.

That being said the difference between theatrical and GOUT for Jedi is 2 frames in the middle of the film so you wouldn’t notice any issues if you mixed a GOUT synced track into Destiny.

It’s theatrically synced.

You contributed to it too mate. Your 97SE edit sounds real nice!

This is the thread for Return of the Jedi: The Destiny Edition by @Nate D and @Stotchy

It is a 4K UHD reconstruction of the theatrical version using the Disney 4K UHD Blu-ray as the main source and despecialized using 4k83 shots from SkyDude’s v.1.2.2 release (also in 4K).

There are two versions of this release available now:

• 4K UHD MKV 54gb - 2160p, x265-10, 50Mbps
• 1080p HD MKV 40gb - 1080p, x264, 35Mbps

A universal color correction was carried out by @Nate D as well as individual corrections of several shots and scenes throughout the film. His alterations include adjustments made to overall brightness, corrected skin tones, slightly increased saturation, protected highlight details, richer/deeper blacks, and a correction of the “muddy” red composition the Disney colorist applied.

A 35mm film grain layer was added over top of the Disney footage to better match with the 4k83 footage.

We also intend to release “Destiny Editions” of the remaining two films in the OT.

Audio included is @hairy_hen’s 5.1 soundtrack in DTS-MA format, as well as 35mm Optical Dolby Stereo mix, Mono mix, LaserDisc audio and LaserDisc commentary provided by @schorman. Also included is the 97SE mix synched to the 4k83 provided by @Hal 9000.

Alien subtitles have been burned in using the original alien subs from the .sup file from Project Threepio.

Special thanks to the following members who contributed directly to the project (in no particular order):

• @SkyDude
• @DrDre
• @oohteedee
• @age
• @hairy_hen
• @schorman13
• @Hal 9000
• @pipefan413

MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU
Nate D and Stotchy

Not sure what FHD is?

But I can tell you this, the 4k Blurays are superior to the 2011 Blurays is detail and in color.

However there are still issues, just different ones. The colors aren’t good, they just aren’t as bad as the 2011 blurays. At least they don’t have the crushed black and clipped highlights of the 2011 versions so they can be corrected to look much better.

They also suffer from too much DNR but again not as badly done as the 2011 blurays.

We’re about to release D+83 which uses Disney 4K and 4k83 footage which has been tonemapped and color corrected from HDR to SDR. You can use that as your source if you like.

If you choose Davinci Resolve as your editing platform I can send you the project files once it’s complete.

Broom Kid said:
D+83 seems to have stalled out in the past month after being on the verge of releasing back in mid-June

Sorry about that. It’s about a week away. Just rendered out a beta to test.

Having worked with both 4k77 and the UHD now, in most cases 4k77 is significantly more tightly cropped than the UHD. So this conversation about cropping is kinda moot.

Maybe in a couple of scenes in Star Wars the cropping varies but in the majority of shots the UHD has more picture info.

In Empire, for many of the Falcon shots were cropped for the SE but these are the only examples of deliberate cropping by Lucasfilm.

Adywan’s colors are as subjective as D+80! Look at the prints not fanedits.

Showing your ignorance here, both of the project and of the film itself.

First up, this release is a single pass color correction of the Disney source. As in a single correction for the whole film. You are very welcome to color correct each scene to your own liking, but that was/is never the intention of this project. Maybe read up on the project?

Secondly, Hoth was always blue it was never white. Check the original film sources. Yes snow is white, but when lit it looks blue. Are the scenes in D+80 too blue? Maybe. But Hoth was never intended to be white even in 1980.

For someone who calls themselves a purist you really don’t seem to know your facts about the film’s original colors.

Alderaan94 said:

I am still very confused.

Fair enough. If you are just discovering the options then it would be very confusing considering the amount of context you would require.

What should dictate the version you go for is your preference. Do you want:

1. The highest picture quality and best colors - much like a commercial bluray release should have been, but not necessarily a complete replication of the in theatre experience in 1983, or
2. The closest to the in-theatre experience in 19XX but at the expense of some quality - e.g. less detail, grain, dirt, faded colors etc

If the answer is 1 then go with the D+XX (D+77 and D+80)series by oohteedee in either 1080p or 4K and choose the latest version.

If the answer is 2 then go with the 4KXX (4k77 and 4k83)series in either 1080p or 4K. There are lots of variations here for people’s different preferences. You’ll need to read up on them to find out which version will best suit your tastes.

An important thing to note is that users on these forums tend to fall into 2 camps:
Purists - they will recommend film print based preservations and not recreations based on home video sources
Everyone else - don’t really care what the source is and just want the highest picture quality and colors

Look around the forum. Figure it out.

Three reasons:

1. The SE replacement shots are from a release print which has grain. To make these blend better with the disney main source you add grain to the whole film.

2. The movie was shot on film. Disney went crazy with the DNR to the detriment of the movie. Add some grain back and it looks better and more authentic - this is a theatrical reconstruction after all.

3. Grain is good generally (I’m talking negative grain not print grain - that is totally subjective).

If you don’t like grain then stick to watching the prequels. Or as I said earlier, make your own version with no grain.

Ryan said:

oohteedee said:

andresfresard said:

Did you add film grain to this project? Also I would love if you could point me to the right direction to find these edits as they look outstanding! Congratulations on this.

v2.0 does not. I left the grain layer off when I rendered it. The next version will have one.
D+77 v2.1 does have a 35mm grain overlay.

It looks like someone has put them on public torrent sites already. I can’t tell you where but a search and you should find them.

I prefer to not have any grain added in.

Well you can go ahead and make your own version then with no grain.

What you are trying to achieve has pretty much already been done by oohteedee with his D+77 and D+80 releases.

I’m working on D+83 using the process I mentioned above.

I’d encourage you to check out these releaaes and if you like the colors in them. It might save you a lot of work and hassle.

There are two ways you can do this.

Use a LUT - age created two or three tonemapping LUTs that work well, or

Just use Davinci Resolve’s tonemapping functionality. It works pretty well too.

In either scenario you will need to make adjustments to brightness and contrast on top of your tonemapping.

I assuming then that you had to edit the soundtrack to make it sync to the vision as the soundtrack has 3 instances where there are either missing or additional frames at the reel changes?

So you have edited and then reencoded to DTS?

I am really curious as to how you got the 97DTS track to sync.

Is this reconstruction frame accurate so the audio just worked? Or did you have to make changes to the soundtrack to fit the video?

I’ve been converting to prores in FFMpeg and can confirm that it works really well. No color shift that I have seen.

This is super helpful!

Can’t agree with you there. The whole choice of colour grade in the Disney versions across streaming and discs is pretty terrible. “Dark and desaturated” was clearly the brief. Particularly in Empire and Jedi.

The silver lining is that unlike the 11SE, all the color information is there so with some tweaks it can really be improved.

Don’t watch them at all.

CatBus said:

three of which I can handle like my existing official Blu-rays: glue them all together, put a string through the middle, and suspend them inside one of the cavities in the walls of my house, so nobody accidentally watches them or stumbles across them and thinks that I like those films enough to buy them

This is really funny.