Sir Ridley

Hal 9000 said:

(I know my life will be radically different after my wife and I have our first child in February.)

I’d say for the Snoke scene, the only thing we’d need is to have the first shot, made to look like Hux is standing there rather than Ren. (If possible; I don’t know how you pull off graphical wizardry like this.)

Wow, congratulations! 😃

Sure, I’ll Hux it up.

NeverarGreat said:

I suggested at one point having some sort of sound effect (ANH Star Destroyer flyover?) but I don’t know what SirRidley’s cooking up for that.

I’m adding engine noises, but I’ll look into adding a hyperspace exit thump.

What I’ll deliver:
• Crawl (finished, needs rendering)
• Maz’s castle (needs minor audio tweaks and rendering)
• Deleted scene audio (finished, needs rendering)

And if needed I’ll help out with the new Snoke scene.

Did I forget anything?

These things can probably get done in time to finish V2 before TLJ, we shall see.

That’s not bad! I would change a few things. I would make the first sound of the escaped rathtar more dramatic. I would probably cut away to a quick shot of escaped rathtars. And I would put the rathtar on the window before Han says they’re going out at light speed (to give him a clear reason to do so).

And then you’d have to change how the First Order finds out about BB-8’s location and Snoke’s line about that. And then there’s the thing with Chewie being injured which might be tricky to deal with. You’d have to either remove Chewie’s injury after the rathtar scene or add the bandage to before the rathtar scene (which might be easier).

Anyway, I’ll try this out, it could work for my edit.

DominicCobb said:

Alright, I wanted to get this out before I called it a night but my computer was acting up so I didn’t have any time to make it pretty, but here’s a very rough idea of what could be done with the music:
https://vimeo.com/245147530
password: hux

That’s pretty cool. Which cue is that? I like the part from 0:13 and after. I think before that the Snoke music could stay as it is. And then maybe the new cue could come in slightly earlier so the brass part begins after “once and for all” but before “prepare the weapon”.

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By the way, I’m editing the audio for the deleted scene now, it’s going well.

Hal 9000 said:

Here’s another attempt at that little scene. I added some faint distant explosion sounds when we cut back to Finn and Rey, as well as using audio of Finn breathing heavily from earlier in the film (as in the previous clip I posted). I tried to thread the needle with the music as we transition into Snoke, and I think it’s much better than the initial mockup.

https://vimeo.com/245068520
password: monkey

This works well, it’s interesting to see all the new ideas being tried!

The problems I see with this clip:
• At 0:25 Kylo needs to be replaced with Hux, shouldn’t be too difficult though.
• At 0:31 where Snoke looks over to the side. If Hux is the only one there Snoke’s gaze should be fixed on him. So the cut needs to happen sooner or the shot needs to be slowed so his head doesn’t move.
• At 0:47 the “Snoke music” keeps playing, which for me doesn’t work. I think it only fits in the presence of Snoke and I’d rather see it replaced with a bit of something else. Perhaps a more orchestral cue could start to build over Snokes last lines to give a different feeling to them as well, as “prepare the weapon” is now a “hand me my gun” type of line rather than “we will fire eventually”.

Hal 9000 said:

The deleted scenes have no surroundsound, they are presented in stereo. That’s where a lot of the trouble comes in. There’s just nothing else to work with.

Right, could you upload your edited stereo file then? With music separate. What I would do is use audio editing software to extract a center channel from the stereo file and then make separate tracks for dialogue and background noise that can be edited individually and mixed to proper surround sound.

Could you (Hal) upload the separate audio channels? Or at least the center dialogue channel and the background sound (preferrably without music). I’d like to see if I can do anything with it.

I’ll upload an uncorrected version when I have time.

That’s great! 😄 I only have a few tiny problems with the sound. First, when she says “immediately”, the beginning of the word is a bit odd. It’s a bit long so it sounds like “eeemidiately” or perhaps “idimediately”. And the background rumbling connected to her words could be extended so they don’t start and stop as she speaks. And then after she says “insane” it’s as if the background noise drops out for a bit and then kicks back in just before “or maybe they do”.

Did you need to color correct it further? I tried to match the color to the existing resistance base scenes. Your final version looks a bit too high contrast to me, with skin tones too bright and orange.

Here’s a comparison between my grading and reference frames from the untouched film.
https://imgur.com/a/z7EVP

To me my colors look fine, but I see the blue in the shadows could be toned down a little bit and it could be even less contrasted overall.

I tweaked my colors slightly to get even closer to the movie’s look, so this is my suggestion for a final color grade:
https://mega.nz/#!nFEw2BxA!ZzTOO__xA5gkVVNoRR70WrNGGbHOMhOhr64j4uZ1h7Q

I’m uploading a Lagarith version now anyway.

There we go!
https://mega.nz/#!WF1Q0IxZ!aDcL_-XQVjbUtDAmOKMW0rcLhiPUnNtZs8O_lLwxtnc

Any suggestions? I used the Huffyuv codec which I’ve seen you using on clips, it seems to work fine in Premiere for me.

Aaand here’s the missing shot with the braid removed:

https://mega.nz/#!HIVmmC6D!7WNiHC-2w-XfWs1mFqElFa8v_JZe7N-JvNhcG2BzhlQ 😃

As I’ve stared at this in detail for hours I can assure you it’s not flawless, but I’m happy with how it turned out. I’m glad you appreciate it! 😉 I’ll have the last braid fixed soon.

Here’s a finished version (without sound) of the deleted scene, ready to be slotted into NeverarGreat’s timeline. I did color correction myself, as well.

https://mega.nz/#!2clDjaTB!helc2U3-lRD3gyr8VikTwP3i5cxXv3Q-ZVwelglp1ng

As I’m typing this I notice Leia’s braid is visible from behind when she comes up to Kor Sella, I’ll see if I can do something about that too.

I forgot about the little part with Snap from Neverar’s cut, that needs timecode removal as well.

Here are preview frames for Leia and Kor Sella: https://imgur.com/a/odrWY

Thank you for your patience! 😃 Happy to report that the Leia scene fix is going well! The timecode is gone and the braid is gone on the most difficult shot (where Leia moves to sit down), so not a lot of work left on that.

It would certainly be nice to have everything done before TLJ so I’ll try to get things done (which isn’t my strong suit, sorry). Working on the deleted scene fix right now. The crawl can be done quickly if we all agree on the text.

That’s a nice idea. Personally I don’t think that exposition needs to be there, but using that deleted scene for such a thing is something to consider.

If the scene would be used to explain the lack of panic and the no-violence policy I think it would have to be stated more clearly than in your example dialogue, though.

Yeah, I’d also like to have it done before TLJ, that should definitely be doable.

That trailer, just … wow. It’s a lot to process.

NeverarGreat said:
By the way Ridley, what music was used for the last part of the Maz’s Castle video?

The last part, inside with Maz, is using pieces from “I Can Fly Anything”.

Of course. I should have some time to make progress this month.

Yeah, I see your point. It’s probably worth a try, to see how it works in practice.

I think she just runs because she’s overwhelmed and needs to be alone for a moment, and when she calms down she can think of an actual plan for leaving. With this in mind I think the scene works as it is. When she stops in the forest she doesn’t have a clear plan, just a feeling that she wants to get away. Before she has a chance to think any further BB-8 shows up, and she tells him she’s leaving. Then when she sees the attack she realizes she can’t leave her friends behind.

Your idea removes the “leaving” part, which I guess might make it easier to accept that she then goes back with BB-8 without much motivation (before she knows about the attack), but I feel like the point of her running into the forest in the first place was to show her strong urge to leave. So if we remove the idea of “leaving” the running away might seem even more random.

It’s a fun idea, but I feel like if she heard the senate do that it would be strange in that situation to “not care” (and for Kor Sella to smile).

Another option would be to cut her last line and just leave it at “not all the senators think I’m crazy” followed by Kor Sella’s smile.

Interesting! I figured it was something like that, thanks. Seems to work well.

NeverarGreat said:

😃

I did another version of the Resistance Briefing scene, further tweaking Leia’s mouth movements (as usual) and giving 3PO this line: “Oh my! Without the Republic fleet, they’re doomed!”

How do you go about changing mouth movements?