Hello! Sorry, I’m not interested in doing any VFX right now, but I hope you are successful with your edit.
It’d be pretty easy to use Nvidia Slowmo or some other AI to extend the duration of that shot, but I suppose you’d have to cut the previous shot(s) a little shorter to maintain music sync.
I think perhaps it could loop backwards at the end (since they stand so still), combined with a digital zoom to continue the camera move. Maybe. The music sync could be a problem of course.
I don’t remember, either, but it’s true. Just feels extremely fan film-y and is not needed.
Because we’ve all been so good lately, here’s this in order to appreciate it in context: https://vimeo.com/454916059
Amazing! I love it. My only suggestion would be to linger on the ghost shot a bit longer (if possible). Now that Ben is there it takes a bit longer to fully take in and enjoy the sight of them all together. But all in all that’s a great ending sequence. So nice to see happy Ben and the Falcon.
Edit:
Oh, I see LiquidBronze already suggested the same thing.
It seems like a good idea to add parts of TROS to the earlier films, to make Palpatine fit more naturally into the trilogy. But I don’t know if I would personally move big reveals like that. It could work, but I think if they are taken out of context the impact might be lessened. The reactions of the characters don’t quite match and the information we learn isn’t made relevant until a later film. Like if we would see Palpatine in TFA but he is mostly irrelevant in TLJ, then I’m not sure if that works for me. But I guess that depends on how you structure the trilogy as a whole, with enough changes throughout perhaps you can move plot points without making them feel out of context.
Thank you for the suggestion! I’ve considered ending with the Falcon going into hyperspace. But that depends on if and how I fit that sequence into TLJ. I feel like if the arrival on Ahch-To is moved to TLJ I would like that to be the opening sequence, but perhaps it also works if it’s just inserted before the first Ahch-To scenes in TLJ. I haven’t made a final decision on that yet.
Your other idea is interesting as well, but I don’t have any detailed ideas for editing TROS yet so I can’t say what I’ll do in that case.
I’m here! I’m fine, don’t worry. I’ve just not been here as much for no particular reason.
That is why you fail. 😉
Sorry I had you worried! 
Where is Ridley? Is he safe? Is he alright?
I’m here! I’m fine, don’t worry. I’ve just not been here as much for no particular reason.
Just realised that Ridley’s Falcon cockpit shots are missing the middle beam in the window. It seems that in all other films the beam is there.
I didn’t realize that a beam needed to be added, so I didn’t. But if it should be there I wish I had done so! I guess there are other shots in the film that would need to be changed as well if it was decided to add the missing beam. If Hal would like the beam I could add it, I don’t think it would be a lot of work.
Here’s an idea. If you want to end with TLJ but feel that there isn’t enough closure, you could do one of those montages that are at the end of some movies where we see an image or short scene of each main character and a text that describes what happened to them later in their lives. That way you could use shots from TROS or wherever you want and come up with a satisfying conclusion for each character.
And then perhaps throw in one of these including all the actors from the saga. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enAygqfhjCc
I have a very clear idea for how to handle a Ben Lives alternate ending, which will be the first thing I work on once the film comes out on Blu-ray, but I kind of want to wait and see how much I can do on my own before I share it.
But speaking of Ben Lives, I’m still kind of debating on how to handle Ben bringing Rey back to life. It makes sense that if Ben resurrects Rey, that he will die since he gave her his life Force. So just cutting him dying might feel like it goes against what the movie established about the power.
So should we just have Ben save Rey and not die, regardless of the questions it might raise, or introduce some “divine intervention”?
Either divine intervention or just have Rey not fully die in the first place. Perhaps she gets hurt or just faints and he wakes/heals her before it’s clear that she’s dead. I like the idea of involving Leia though.
Hal’s Custom SE thread:
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Custom-Special-Edition-That-Almost-Wasnt-But-Then-Was/id/61930
I tried a different approach to the holochess. I skip the turning on, and just cut from Han and Rey in the cockpit to Finn with the activated table. Then he shuts it off when Han comes in. That way you can imagine he tried it out on purpose. You keep the fan-service but the table is not conveniently activated by accident. I also cut the sad look on Rey’s face after Han’s “huh”.
I’ll put this here as well.
My attempt at incorporating the Emperor’s theme with the cue where Vader’s helmet is shown.
Here’s the combined music, using the front stereo track from the movie:
https://mega.nz/#!eZsC2CYI!wCHRa2maVNw1sY1CqGuhEtldDPPh2fl_twj-VYSxsqA
And here’s just the added music so you can mix it in yourself:
https://mega.nz/#!rV8iBAYb!MSwl8jKbt5gbkH7ofHVrodFC3h9Nmpl3Fe94MAhXWj0
I read an odd thing regarding this in the TROS visual dictionary.
“Kylo sought to commune with the helmet to contact the spirit who once inhabited it. Though Kylo had long been plagued by voices - invasive words from beyond that gnawed at his doubts - he heard nothing from the charred helm, despite his frequent and intense meditations.”
This seems to contradict the quote “Show me again, the power of the darkness”, implying that Kylo has been shown something by the helmet or otherwise.
Minor TROS spoilers
TROS tells us that Kylo has heard Vader’s voice inside his head, and I assumed this was through the helmet, but perhaps that is not the case. In TROS Kylo touches the helmet and sees flashing visions, so maybe thats how Kylo has been “shown” things, and the voices are a separate thing. Adding the Emperor’s theme to the helmet would contradict this.
YOU are all Hal9000.
Star Wars: “I am all the films…”
Hal: “And I am all the faneditors!”
Here’s the combined music, using the front stereo track from the movie:
https://mega.nz/#!eZsC2CYI!wCHRa2maVNw1sY1CqGuhEtldDPPh2fl_twj-VYSxsqA
And here’s just the added music so you can mix it in yourself:
https://mega.nz/#!rV8iBAYb!MSwl8jKbt5gbkH7ofHVrodFC3h9Nmpl3Fe94MAhXWj0
Do you think it works?
That’s an awesome channel. Something like this would be perfect, just needs to be a little softer:
I can send my version tomorrow. It’s the Vader theme on top meshed with the first notes of the Emperor’s theme with a dark male choir sound. So the Vader theme is what stands out, but you can sense the Emperor as well. Do you think there should be a bit of Emperor for the whole scene or just the helmet shot?
Is anyone aware of a suitable bit of music which combines the Emperor’s theme and the Imperial March? I wonder if replacing the musical cue which accompanies Vader’s helmet would be helpful to connect to TROS.
I don’t feel it should replace the Imperial March, but evoking both themes would be appropriate. Does anyone know of such a piece, or could perhaps blend them like that?
I don’t know if there’s an existing combination that fits, but I’m working on combining the existing Vader theme from the helmet scene with a piece of the Emperor’s theme. We’ll see what I come up with.
I assume you’re referring to ‘who talks first…’?
There are many edits which remove these lines, but whenever I watch them they tend to remove too many lighthearted moments to the point that the film starts to feel rather lifeless. I think Poe’s dialogue informs his character rather than detracting from it because of his unflappable bravado. Of course it contrasts with the tone of the scene which is why I’m still on the fence about it, but for now I can’t see a strong enough reason to warrant its removal.
What do you think about removing just one or the other of “who talks first” and “it’s hard to hear you with the mask”? I removed both at first, but perhaps I’ll keep the mask comment.
Beautiful work, pretty much seamless.
I did notice however that you missed removing the tape from the Stormtrooper’s shoulder in the close-ups of Leia.
Maybe it’s possible, maybe not, but at least you consider every angle! I like that.
Kylo - This edit paints Kylo in a more conflicted light. As such his cutting down of an unarmed civilian and ordering the murder of the whole village makes him far too villainous, especially considering later events in the saga. Other than Tekka’s murder, Kylo doesn’t kill anyone onscreen until Han so it’s more plausible that he will turn.
In my opinion the opening works well as an introduction to Kylo, especially. I think he needs to be introduced as the main villain, even if the truth is more nuanced. His interaction with San Tekka hints that there is more to Kylo, with lines like “I know where you came from” and “The First Order Rose from the dark side, you did not”. And then Kylo kills him, which shows his unwillingness to face his past (“let the past die”, literally) and makes Kylo feel more like a threat. I agree that it could be a good idea to tone down Kylo’s evil side, but it still has to be there to some extent. You could remove his order to kill the villagers, though. Killing San Tekka was personal, but I doubt he cares about what happens to the villagers. RogueLeader had an idea about using a different line for Kylo there and have him say “I leave that to you” (later said to Hux) to Phasma. I did that in my WIP edit, so the dialogue goes like this:
Phasma: “Sir, the villagers”
Kylo: “I leave that to you”
Phasma: “No survivors!” (a line from Battlefront 2)
It does seem there were some scenes cut from the film; from the ‘The Rise of Skywalker The Visual Dictionary’ (out on the 22nd December - though seems some have been sent out early), in this case Kylo Ren and ‘Cult Colonists’ on Mustafar:-
That guy looks like the ones Kylo fights in the first scene, which presumably takes place on Mustafar.
I think it works really well. I’m thinking of actually making a vision for the scene, with quick blurry flashes of events that will happen and I’d definitely add the Emperor’s laugh in there, but this is very subtle and nice.
I’ll be seeing this in 5 hours (yay Europe!). I’ll let y’all know how it goes.
The premiere here is less than 90 minutes, lol, and still plenty of seats available at all my local cinemas. All I want to know before I buy a ticket is this. Is it the same JJ shaky-cam style cinematography as in The Force Awakens, if it is I’m not going. Let me know! This will determine whether or not I see it tomorrow.
This clip says yes. https://youtu.be/693qGarrgbw?t=15
To be fair this is an action sequence and may not be representative of the whole movie. On the other hand the movie is pretty action oriented and JJ and DoF Dan Mindel are back from TFA, so…
Personally I’ve never had a problem with shaky-cam, except in Cloverfield and First Man, both of which gave me motion sickness.
I don’t have 4K equipment yet, so I’m mostly interested in the special features and if there will be anything new in there. I imagine that I might replace my Blu-ray collection with something like this in a few years, but for now it seems too expensive. Especially considering that you could get almost 4 years of Disney+ for that money, and watch the 4K versions that way.
It also seems weird to put both the 4K and HD versions in the same massive set. If you have a 4K player you don’t need the HD discs and if you don’t have one you’d only want the HD discs. This way it just makes it unnecessarily expensive and probably physically huge as well.
https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1204960815821946880?s=21
JJ is on our sides
And he watched the Despecialized Edition! Very cool.
