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#1069566
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The Force Awakens - The Starlight Project
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It’s a nice idea. I think splitting the interrogation mostly works fine, but splitting the Jedi mind trick feels a bit weird. She knows what she’s trying to do and just fine tunes it on the spot, so it makes sense to just try again until it works. And the small part of the first try feels a bit short and disjointed, as well as going in between what would have been a nice transition from Han and Leia believing there is good in their son to Kylo fearing that same thing.

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#1068848
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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StarWarsFan Sweden said:

Hi i have started a private topic about your opening crawl because right now i am also making a fan film and i need good accurate Star Wars Crawl Template from After Effects.

Yes, ta det lugnt, jag kan skicka senare.

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#1068066
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The Force Awakens - The Starlight Project
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NeverarGreat said:

It may be possible by using the end of the shot at the end of the film where the Falcon jumps out of the Resistance system, and then there are two possible shots of it falling out of lightspeed, both requiring the removal of a planet.

Okay, that should be possible. I don’t really see the need for the addition though. Would it really make sense to put the ship into lightspeed at that time? They just escaped, and Rey leaves the cockpit to meet up with Finn (I don’t think leaving the controls and just lightspeeding blindly is a good idea) and they haven’t even decided where to go yet. And then they would leave lightspeed without being at the controls, is that even possible? Or does the ship leave lightspeed because of the gas leak?

NeverarGreat said:

This is the one scene where I’m fine with a lot of cuts, since the Rathtars are one of the weakest parts of the film IMO. After ‘Nowhere left to hide’, Rey could open the cages, then cut ‘and take the droid!’. Then keep the initial Rathtar attack, but cut Finn’s improbable capture and rescue. Maybe cut Han’s blasting the door open with the Bowcaster, since it doesn’t make any sense and it closes later in the scene.

I agree it needs some heavy cutting. I’ve already cut a lot after the initial attack in my version, and maybe the additional cuts you suggest could work after all. I’ll try it later.

NeverarGreat said:

I think a few scene-specific regrades would do wonders for the OT look of the film, especially the Falcon scenes and the droids.

Yeah, I like the look of the C3PO image. I tried out a warm evening colorgrade for the Takodana sequence, it looks nice, should work. What about the Falcon though?

NeverarGreat said:

I look forward to seeing them!

I’ll get to it. 😃

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#1067998
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The Force Awakens - The Starlight Project
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Nice initiative! 😃 I like most of your ideas, and as you know I’d like to use some of them for my edit which is also based on Restructured. I’ll make my own thread eventually.

I have a few questions and thoughts.

"Insert shot of the Falcon going to lightspeed …"
Is there usable footage for this?

"… trim Bala-Tik’s dialogue about the First Order looking for a droid …"
I feel like this is easier said than done. Bala-Tik mentions the FO looking for a droid and two fugitives, which leads to them wanting to search the ship, and then finally saying “kill them, and take the droid”. All of this is connected, so I think you’d have to remove all of this dialogue and cut from “Nowhere left to hide” to the Rathtars attacking, and move Rey opening the Rathtar cage to a slightly earlier point. Not sure this would flow well, and the increasing tension between the gangs and Han would be lost.

"Regrade Maz’s Castle after Rey runs away to look as if it is occurring in late afternoon"
It’s possible, and it makes the sunset shot make slightly more sense. But you’d have to regrade about 10 minutes of footage (until they leave Takodana). Might be worth it though, if it looks good.

“Reincorporate Kylo’s investigation of the Falcon” - Using xxtelecine 7xx’s clip I’ve done some further cropping and editing to make the timecode removal more seamless. Looks good, I could upload a clip later.

And I made a version of the island dream shot, I’ll upload that as well.

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#1067303
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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MalàStrana said:

You get me hyped. I would suggest you to check DigMod edit which has plenty of good ideas to give consistency to Finn.

Oh, I read about that one! I see he just finished it, I’ll take a look.

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#1067295
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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Kexikus said:

From my point of view it might be better if you started your own edit based on Hal’s restructure to implement all these additional small changes. But in the end it’s Hal’s call of course 😃

I agree, but I still think it’s nice that there’s a place for all kinds of ideas in this thread, and then HAL can decide which ones work for his edit.

I’ll be using most of these ideas for my own edit which I’ll complete at some point after Restructured v2 is done.

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#1067263
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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Great idea! I don’t think the execution is perfect yet, but the idea totally works. There’s a couple of things that bother me. First the film grain on the background image of the desert, you can tell it’s a still frame. Preferably the grain should be removed from the background layer. And second I think the horizons should be aligned so it feels more like the sand turns into water instead of the island and ocean floating above everything else.

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#1065342
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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yotsuya said:

Ah, 1000 times better. You have nicely fixed one of the most annoying gaffes in the movie. Where can I get a 1080 p copy?

😃 It’s not done yet though.

NeverarGreat said:

Since Rogue One just came out on Blu-ray, I thought that there might be a Star Destroyer-over-Jedha sound effect that could be used for the two effects shots, since it seems strange for Finn to be reacting to something so silent.

Good point! Maybe something like this: https://youtu.be/YW0kuf2Lx-Q?t=3m49s I’ll see what I can do.

NeverarGreat said:

Here’s the full quality X-wing approach shot that I partially fixed months ago. Now the blast wreckage is almost gone and the weapon nozzle has been further cleaned up:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/206515

https://mega.nz/#!qZNzDaiY!2JwOqIjiRtiqTugy5XISdIB0gGXdh4wZqKX-i3jfn6w

JEDIT: This is version 5, not 4.
Further JEDIT: I forgot that Sir Ridley already de-wrecked the shot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGXof4rOHbk&feature=youtu.be
I wouldn’t mind if those planet textures were integrated into the new shot 😉

Nice work! I’ll try to combine our shots.

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#1064098
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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Good point, but I like the implication of the second part of the line. It’s not just a ship that happens to be nearby, it’s there because of them. And it kind of shows Finn isn’t just worried for his own safety. They’ve found US. Which leads to the question about Rey. I like that.

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#1064075
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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DougieP said:

URL: https://vimeo.com/212426290
Password: Fanedit

Thank you, this is interesting! After watching this I’ve though about what could be the best option, and I think I prefer Finn saying something. Your idea also opens up the possibility to use only a part of his line, like “It’s the First Order” OR “They’ve found us”. But ultimately I think the full line works best. I feel like it’s useful for clarifying what’s going on (for a casual audience), but mostly it makes sense that Finn would want to help and explain from his insider point of view that this is indeed the First Order (even though the ship is instantly recognizable to Han and movie viewers as “the bad guys”).

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#1061346
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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NeverarGreat said:

Thanks! If anyone has a 5.1 setup and would like to tackle the audio, I would be most grateful.

I will look into it! I’m interested in using it myself as well so if nobody else does it I will give it a try sooner or later.

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#1061032
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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DominicCobb said:

Of course you guys are allowed to change whatever you want, that’s the beauty of fan edits. I try not to pipe in about changes I disagree with, as there’s no point, but I just wonder if you’re going at this one from the wrong perspective. If you’re unflipping shots to fix continuity, I think you should just keep in mind that when the editors flipped them they would have known that they were upsetting continuity, but were purposefully doing it in favor of something more important (like screen direction). If you think it’s better the other way, there’s nothing wrong with that, but I just mean you should consider why it might be like that in the first place.

I understand that this was what you were saying, it’s a good point, thank you. I won’t change things “just because” without considering how it will affect the scene.

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#1060925
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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Hal 9000 said:

Given the restructuring of the film this project implements, the only way to remove Snoke’s identification of Kylo’s parentage would be to remove the first Snoke scene entirely. We wouldn’t meet him until a smash cut to after the interrogation scene. Even if it weren’t outside the scope of the project, it’d be a little tough to pull off at the same time as the other stuff.
But the nice thing is that this edit will be available to any and all whom would like to take or modify it further. That’s part of why I’d like to A) make it solid and seamless, and B) stick to the original focus.

I’ve cut some dialogue from the first Snoke scene so it ends like: “… aboard the Millennium Falcon, in the hands of Han Solo.” “He means nothing to me.” “We shall see.”

So it’s more vague.

But yeah, sorry for going a bit off track here.

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#1060907
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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DominicCobb said:

If those shots were flipped, it wasn’t an accident. If they weren’t, why change them?

To be fair the entire movie was made as it is on purpose, yet here we are. We’re just making a second judgement, and might find that in our opinion some shots work better if flipped back.

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#1060904
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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DigMod said:

No official list that I know of, but a few particular ones are …

Thank you, I’ll check these out. I’ve already flipped the “Rey hides” one and Kylo setting down his helmet in the ashes.

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#1060902
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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DigMod said:

I know this version is all about accuracy, so are you planning to address scenes that have been horizontally flipped or the wrong hands used/contradicting placements? There are a fair amount of them.

I’m making some changes like that in my personal version that will be released later. Is there a list or something? I don’t know all of them.

Jackpumpkinhead said:

This edit is shaping up to be the best one yet. SirRidley, you’ve done some great work! I know this edit is only to restructure the SKB shots. But I would love to see a version of this edit where Kylo wasn’t blatantly called out as Han’s son so early in the film. I feel it’s more powerful to be left at the end, just before the SKB fires.

I think there’s another edit that does this. For my own edit I was at least planning to remove direct mentions of the fact but you would still figure it out from Han and Leias conversations before the end.

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#1060424
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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Kexikus said:

Pretty much perfect. The changed music from the TIE arrival scene stood out to me but I think that’s only because I’m too familiar with the original score in this scene. Where did you get that music from btw?
And Finn’s line also stood out a little but again, I’m not sure if I would have noticed if I hadn’t known it is a redub.

The music is an unused cue that was posted on Reddit, there was a link to it on page 25. I’ll keep tweaking it a bit, I’m glad everyone seems mostly happy with it (but I’m thankful for any criticism of course)! 😃

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#1060349
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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Hal 9000 said:

Very nice! Unless anyone else points something out, I don’t see anything wrong with it!

Great! 😃 I just need to get the surround mix sorted then. I’ll keep an eye on this thread in case anyone has suggestions.

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#1059928
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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Hal 9000 said:

Anything lossless should be fine to output; ProRes is what it’ll be turned into for use.
And if you are able to place Ren’s face on additional shots from that Snoke sequence, that’d be even better!

I’ll get to the face fixing eventually! I’ll just double check the export settings with you when the time comes, I guess.

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#1059920
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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Hal 9000 said:

Excuse me, no. I misspoke. I just need Sir Ridley’s work now. 😃

What file format/settings would you like when I export stuff?

NeverarGreat said:

Well, there was the R2 map search that I wanted to offer up for consideration, so I’d probably get working on that as well.

Nice, what was the idea there? Don’t think I’ve heard of this.

DigMod said:

Which scene(s) do you need? I have the shot where Hux walks away infront of Kylo after Snoke tells him to make preparations, but with his helmet rotoscoped on.

Unfortunately the opposite is needed: his head rotoscoped over his helmet. But it won’t be too hard, it’s a view from behind and one from far away so I think it’s fixable.

chyron8472 said:

Yes, I know that. So that would also be an additional error with the original; not just that the planet was illuminated after the star was fully drained?

It’s illuminated during Hux’s speech, but that just means they’re illuminated by a different star than the one they drained, or possibly that they didn’t drain it fully. About the shot of the X-wings, it’s cropped and doesn’t show the whole planet, so we’ll just have to assume the draining beam is out of frame somewhere.

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