I was able to frind a link to the first one but I’m also looking for a DL of the second movie. Can someone help me out?
EyeShotFirst said:
DarkJedi3P0 said:
BTW, George Lucas is set to appear in an interview on the very U.S. Popular show, The Daily Show. just.. an interview XD
Just watched it. Nothing new
I've just watched Daily Show interview with GL.
I thought it was really sad how he said "Its just a work of fiction". What a clumsy and coward attempt to avoid discussion.
I'd like to hear him say Shakespeare's Hamlet is just a work of fiction. This is just BS. It's not just about entertainment and catching of certain age groups, there's also a cultural impact and innate meaning to things.
But I guess he just doesn't want to talk about it. Very superficial.
PS: Sorry for Off topic... needed to vent.
Hey Ady, i think its a great idea.
Maybe i'll donate too. But i hope you are aware of the fact that you are taking quite a risk here.
I guess most of the people here would be trustworthy, but there are always black sheep. Lets just hope that it doesnt end up in the wrong hands.
satanika said:Deathcrow said:adywan said:there has to be something conflicting with the header on your system. could be a codec issue as mentioned. you can use MediaInfo to check all the details of video file. here's a screenshot of the info for the trailer:
as you can see the header is correct.
Are we sure about this? I can't believe that mplayer/ffmpeg is just imagining this up out of thin air! Where should this info come from if not somewhere from within the file? Maybe someone with more experience than me can find out more?
... and i dont want to go on the dev-mailing list of mplayer with something trivial like this (oss devs can get kind of annoyed ;)
Well, in the trailer only the pixel aspect ratio is set apparently(?) (to square pixels), mplayer seems to want the display aspect ratio too... If you set the display ar to 2.35:1 with e.g. mpeg4modifier, it will display correctly.
Whether mplayer is at fault or the header is lacking I cannot say, though... But it's an easy fix.
Yeah i also know of a lot of simple ways to fix this problem for me personally. I am just worried a little bit about other people who may not have enough technical experience and then will turn away because of this if they see a stretched image and think "WTF is this?". You know?
corellian77 said:adywan said:well i have a bit of news about the Falcon, and it isn't good. Finally the seller has decided to contact me and Paypal. He said that it was posted 2 weeks ago and that the post office has mislaid it. He has sent proof of postage to Paypal and they are satisfied that he has indeed posted it and closed the claim. Now the bad news is that he sent it via uninsured mail which has really fucked me off because the post office offers almost nothing in compensation when sent uninsured. it doesn't mater how valuable the item is supposed to be all they will offer me is £30 for losing it. The seller had proof that he had contacted the post office prior to contacting me to find out where it is and they can find no trace of it. So that's it. the falcon is gone. I'm really pissed off at the seller for sending something so valuable without the postal insurance just to save a couple of pounds (which the amount in postage i paid would have more than covered this).So this has set me back a lot now.
Maybe this should be worked into ESB:R... instead of taking off to Bespin, our heros can simply evade the Empire by listing themselves on ebay and getting lost in the mail... brilliant!
I really am sorry to hear that though, ady... can you follow this up with the post office?
What i dont get about this: Why then did he talk about 'being in the hospital' and stuff, prior to this, if he indeed already had sent the falcon? This all smells very fishy to me...
adywan said:there has to be something conflicting with the header on your system. could be a codec issue as mentioned. you can use MediaInfo to check all the details of video file. here's a screenshot of the info for the trailer:
as you can see the header is correct.
Are we sure about this? I can't believe that mplayer/ffmpeg is just imagining this up out of thin air! Where should this info come from if not somewhere from within the file? Maybe someone with more experience than me can find out more?
... and i dont want to go on the dev-mailing list of mplayer with something trivial like this (oss devs can get kind of annoyed ;)
PS: ... and btw: I hate this 'visual' post writing editor. Is there a way to activate/see the usual 'code' based editing as known from other forums? ("[quote]" etc. instead of these visual blocks, which i seem to be incapable of managing ;) Or maybe i'm the only one having a hard time inserting a quote at the right point or deleting a image/quote from a block.
EyeShotFirst said:Media Player is so crappy that is why I uninstalled it. VLC is an amazing program the only crappy thing is that it doesnt capture screens in a larger size.
I dont want to drift too far off topic here, just to clear things up:
mplayer is NOT "Windows Media Player". mplayer is the (arguably) most widely used media player on Unix based systems... and of course it's the best there is ;)
RoccondilRinon said:Works fine in VLC and QuickTime. Probably an mplayer problem.
As i said, it may well be that it works in other players because they ignore or dont respect the Video Properties Header*, but the wrong information is there.
*I dont even know what kind of header this is. I've checked some other video files and all that i checked dont have this header. Maybe its frome one of Ady's editing software steps. Google doesnt help much either.
Hey Ady. Thanks for the trailer, its great!
But on a technical note: The aspect ratio information in the video seems to be wrong. Playing the file in mplayer it reports:
Movie-Aspect is 1.78:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect.
Of course this results in a stretched image when playing.
Only adding a "-aspect 2.35:1" manually allows playback of the video in the right ratio.
I dont know if this happens with other media players too (Propably not, they may take their ratio information only from the resolution, wich of course already is 2.35:1), but there is definetly something to fix right here:
======= Video Properties Header =======
Format: 0 VideoStandard: 0
VRefresh: 24 HTotal: 1280 VTotal: 544
FrameAspect: 16:9 Framewidth: 1280 Frameheight: 544
Fields: 1
== Field 0 description ==
CompressedBMHeight: 544 CompressedBMWidth: 1280
ValidBMHeight: 544 ValidBMWidth: 1280
ValidBMXOffset: 0 ValidBMYOffset: 0
VideoXOffsetInT: 0 VideoYValidStartLine: 0
=======================================
Akwat Kbrana said:Yeah, I'm just kidding. :)
phew :D *relax* good one though! ;)
Akwat Kbrana said:I say, significantly raise the pitch of Obi-Wan's voice and have some fun with the "mini-Obi" idea. He could sound a little like "Alvin & the Chipmunks."
My sense for irony seems to be fading, but you are in fact kidding, right? Just wanted to make sure.
ChainsawAsh said:My point is consistency. Go one way or the other - touch-screens and holograms are fine as long as you don't go from that to a Boeing 737 cockpit in the same series. It just doesn't make sense. We need consistency between the two, and I think most people here prefer the look of the OT controls to the PT. To paraphrase Ady himself, "The PT should be changed to match the OT, not the other way around."
Are we still arguing about the addition of holograms? If i remember correctly Adywan added some Holograms in ANH:R too, right? And of course it had nothing to do with 'making the OT more like the PT'. They were just appropriate in the scene. So guys, please drop the PT arguments in this case.
The consistency argument is a good one btw. Because we never see something like this (besides the holo chess) in the Falcon before. So yeah. This is propably the only issue I can see.
But the point still remains: Holo tech is quite common place, and they propably wouldn't show it off "because its cool". They would only use it when they need it.
adywan said:Even though it was fun to see the mock-up i have to agree with what corellian77 said. The Falcon is a "heap of junk". adding HUD displays just doesn't fit with its character. Adding any sort of display is getting too close to PT territory (where every detail seems to have to either be explained or shown) for me. Its obvious they are looking at the display but do we need to see it? i say not. The focus is supposed to be on the interaction between Han & Leia. Adding a display of any kind for this scene would be a case of "adding it just because you can".
Oh Ady... pleaasse reconsider. I love the mock-up. It works so great, with the reflection on their faces, etc.
And about the Falcon=Junk argument: Holograms seem to be a very common tech in the SW universe. I dont have to remind you that they are playing frakking holographic chess (!!!) one movie earlier. It's not unreasonable to assume that the Falcon has a system for this (consider the improvements for smuggling, if you have a 3d display ;) ...And you could also have it flicker a little to make it a bit more 'vintage'.
Also: Please, dont be unfair and compare such an idea to the mess that the is the PT. This has nothing to do with the PT and enriches the scene IMHO. Its not like "Hey lets add another pointless special effect to make it look cooler". It shows us what they are looking at, without needing to cut away and gives a very natural feel to their interaction. It's like it has always been there, just invisible. I know it's propably difficult to convince you, just wanted to point that out.
PS: I am all against a cutaway! A cutaway would definetly destroy this scene, but the hologram works beautifully.
Monroville said:ImperialFighter said:
I guess this would add to the "curvature of the planet" issue: if you follow the curve of the planet in the revised shot, there should be a little bit of space in the top left of the picture on the upper right of the left window.
I haven't seen a response to this one by Ady yet (maybe i missed it). I hope it didnt get lost in all the traffic here, because this looks really strange.
As I've said before, Luke was a cool Jedi to watch because he was so close to falling to the darkside (doing things that went AGAINST his teachings). IF your power comes from ALL LIVING THINGS then wouldn't killing deplete or harm your own power source?
I dont want to argue about this with you but i have to state that your logic in this is absolutely black and white and very one sided.
Lets pretend i'd believe my power comes from ALL LIVlING THINGS. Lets also pretend someone hates all living things and wants to destroy them. Should i kill him? Definetly! And bloody fast! The more i believe this the faster i would. And i wouldn't even feel remorse. In fact such radical fews can lead to the most brutal and "unhippy" like behaviour imaginable. Morals are always relative! Kill one to save 100, etc... (this of course only sratches the surface of ethics/morals...)
Loving all living things does not forbid some one to be angry or curse like an old sailor. Honestly, I like most of what you write, but you definetly should rethink this! You are being _absolutely_ one dimensional. Of course there can be more Dalai Lama like figures in the Yedi order (Yoda?) but I can very well imagine more 'practical' people, like i imagine Obi-Wan has been. Portraying the Jedi as perfect or saints feels just so wrong... Much about their beliefs that we know about (frome the movies) has been told to us by Yoda: The one considered the wisest. When he says something like "anger is bad" another Jedi might argue "Be careful with anger, but it can be a good tool to do the right thing when its necessary".
In the world are all kinds of religions and most of them forbid murder, but most of them also legitimize it in many cases or even have heroes who kill their enemies (just read the bible, the god of the old testament is a maniac killer, yet its a 'peaceful' religion and his son preaches 'love your enemy' in the NT).
I could go on about this forever, but as i said, i dont want to argue about this. So i will drop this matter after this posts. Discussions about spiritualism/morals/religion tend to get too emotional and i dont want to hurt anyones feelings here...
PS: Sorry if my posts seem kind of convoluted at the moment, but i've been studying alot in the last few weeks and my brain feels like its melting ;)
I really love this thread! Great ideas in here... just a few things that jumped into my mind:
The Jedi shouldnt be portrayed as some new-age hippies! Yes, of course, they are spiritual and all of that, but they do kill, if its necessary, etc... They are "Jedi Knights", we should remember this and maybe even find some more analogies to medieval knights. That way Obi-Wan could easily become the Knight of the Organas and thus he becomes a General.
I dont think Obi-Wan should ever leave the Jedi Knight. I don't even think we should approach the Jedi Order as some sort of organization that you can leave or get into. Its more about the formal training and calling of the force.
I really love most of the ideas posted by Blackhawk and Chainsaw, so many of my thoughts build up upon them:
Blackhawk was talking about an invasion of Alderaan. Now, what do we do with that? I think the planet could be taken "hostage". The republic should be built upon trade, so the invaders would blockade the planet, threaten to destroy industry or as a last measure kill off population or the royal family.
The republic senate could deicde to give military aide to Alderaan, because they won't let themselves be blackmailed. Since this could lead to the death of millions Obi-Wan tries to prevent a massacre through diplomacy and travels to Alderaan. Thats when the prince of Alderaan, Bail Organa, flees from his responsibilities and Obi Wan now has to track him down, because the royal house has to stand together as one to make a treaty.
My biggest problem with this approach is that it sounds a bit too similar to the beginning of TPM. Especially the first part with the occupation. Someone made an important observation in this thread, that we should try to do things as different as possible, in comparison to how GL did them in the PT. So the conflict around Alderaan should be very different. No Droids. No big invasion. Maybe go more with the clone concept and have infiltration? Replacing people in key positions, slowly hiding a military force on the planet, etc. But: We dont need to see this, this sould happen before NPT, and could be told to the viewer through dialogue (for example Obi-Wan explaining the situation to Anakin, who has no idea what he has gotten himself into...). Important for us is not the conflict itself, but the characters, obi-wan, bail, anakin and how the eventual resolution of this first Clone War begins to corrupt the Republic and shows signs of its possible demise.
We all agree that Episode I should stand on its own, right? So what we really need is an adventure that MUST be fleshed out. Whats the story we want to tell? In ANH its "Rise of a hero and victory in an important battle against the Evil Empire". We already have the "Rise of a hero" part and i can imagine most of it just fine, but we need real conflict, loss, drama, not just some obscure or far away Clone War (in ANH lukes next of kin are killed, so the empire is a real threat). ANH has all those little scenes that establish scenario and characters (like the cantina, garbage smasher, etc)... there's so much happening, its exciting to watch.
Oh and by the way: We dont need to explain everything right away. Leave some mystery to it. We dont have to explain exactly how the Jedi are organized, how many there are... Of course we can already mention Yoda, but we dont have to explain why he's on Dagobah or what he's doing there. These are all things that can be done in Ep2 and Ep3. This will keep people hooked and make it more interesting to watch.
adywan said:Deathcrow said:adywan said:Well a torrent file wouldn't be faster at all. For one my ISP throttles the hell out of torrents so you think rapidshare is slow, you want to see my crappy upload speed on torrents. It would take a week for someone to get a file this size (ok slightly over-egaggerated. lol). Plus if someone came to this site after a week or more and wanted to get the file it would be totally dependant on someone still seeding. Not really worth it for a clip. I haven't got a rapidshare account but i can still download at about 3-5 mbps, which is a lot faster than uploading a torrent.Well, thats funny. Since a few weeks i only get max 30 KB/sec as a free user on rapidshare. I am currently at 73% and Opera estimates another 18 minutes to go (24 KB/sec currently).
damn, that is slow. i never get anything lower than 180kbps off rapidshare. what speed connection do you have?
I've got about 10 mbit. So my connection is not the problem. Maybe rapidshare doesn't like my ip anymore ;)
Or do other "free users" experience the same slow speed?
BTW: I've already looked at the file partially. Looks great as always Ady!
adywan said:
Well a torrent file wouldn't be faster at all. For one my ISP throttles the hell out of torrents so you think rapidshare is slow, you want to see my crappy upload speed on torrents. It would take a week for someone to get a file this size (ok slightly over-egaggerated. lol). Plus if someone came to this site after a week or more and wanted to get the file it would be totally dependant on someone still seeding. Not really worth it for a clip. I haven't got a rapidshare account but i can still download at about 3-5 mbps, which is a lot faster than uploading a torrent.
Well, thats funny. Since a few weeks i only get max 30 KB/sec as a free user on rapidshare. I am currently at 73% and Opera estimates another 18 minutes to go (24 KB/sec currently).
adywan said:Ok, here's an XVID version
Hey Ady, thx for the teasers. But why do you put them on a commercial site like rapidshare? The speed is extremly slow for a free user and maybe not everyone has a premium account there. A quick torrent file would be so much faster and more convenient (but i guess - maybe - there are some people who dont have a bittorrent client yet?!).
of course this is just a suggestion, i guess you already have your reasons why you dont do it like this?
Keep up your good work, I love every bit of it ;)
One more important thing that hasn't been mentioned yet: The structure should have been very different. The first movie should have gone right into the life of Anakin and not show us a stupid little anakin-child all of the time. No one cares about HIM. What the audience wanted to see is the Hero that was described by Obi Wan in the OT and how he would turn into Darth Vader.
With almost the complete first movie missing I would have had much more time to develop the relationship between obi wan and anakin, to give the audience some characters to genuinly care for and a republic at stake, which Anakin fights for because he believes in something... not just because of a girl or because someone tells him to.
Obviously this would have made turning him to the darkside much more difficult for Palpatine which would have in turn required really great story telling to pull it of. The PT was a cop-out by making it the direct path for anakin. It would have been more surprising to have him refute the power of the dark side.
Of course there are many many more things i would have done differently, especially the ones that were already mentioned by some people. For example i strongly agree with these two postings.
I dont understand all this discussion. This movie sucks ass! 'nuff said.
Seriously, why all this debate? I can't see how anyone could enjoy a movie like that - except fanboys/retarded people. I just dont get it. Its like seeking the good parts in a movie like "The Hottie & the Nottie"! It's obviously bad, lets move on to discussing reasons why it failed, not _if_ it failed at all.
PS: And i think we are insulting the intelligence of our children by saying this is a kids movie. I would have never liked this, even as a child, for many reasons.
