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#935508
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Idea: Incorporating tone poem(s) into TPM edit?
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It’s funny, I’ve actually been playing with incorporating part of QGJ’s into TPM. Before Anakin shoots the reactor at the end of the film, I have Qui Gon (who is already dead at this point, in my edit) say “Trust your instincts, Anakin”, but then, I’ve been trying to add “A path will be placed before you” from the tone poem. Sort of like my edit’s version of “use the force, Luke”.

Idk if I’m going to keep it, but it doesn’t sound terrible. It wasn’t difficult to separate the music from the voice.

If you found a convincing way to incorporate Darth Maul’s tone poem, I would very much like to hear it.

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#934286
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Get ready for "Star Wars - Shroud of the Sith", a radical fan edit of "The Phantom Menace"
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Also, as I was watching the current cut I have, I had another somewhat radical idea. In the Amidala “reveal” scene where Padme convinces Nass to help the Naboo, how would you guys feel about Padme speaking the Gungan language to sway Nass into liking her? If I had someone who could pull off a convincing Natalie Portman (or at least, Natalie Portman speaking Gungan), I could just have them match the sounds to her lip movements (similar to the Bad Lip Reading series on YouTube) and rewrite some of the dialogue. In my edit, having Padme speak Gungan to Nass would be an interesting parallel to Jar Jar speaking Basic to her (which is a whole other thing in my edit).

I might not end up doing it, but if I did, would that be a welcomed change?

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#934280
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Get ready for "Star Wars - Shroud of the Sith", a radical fan edit of "The Phantom Menace"
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Jeebus said:

Do you mind posting what it sounds like with the dialogue spliced together?

Ehhhh…I would, but…trust me, it’s bad.

It’s essentially “I wonTHREEPIO! fromaHUTT betting on the podraces”

Smithers said:

I’ll splice together some dialogue for you

It’s mostly an issue trying to figure out which dialogue I want to splice. I’d be happy to hear suggestions, though. Or if you want to mock something up, I’d love to hear it.

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#934216
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Get ready for "Star Wars - Shroud of the Sith", a radical fan edit of "The Phantom Menace"
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Anyone know what I can do for this?..

So, instead of Anakin building 3PO, my initial thought was to have Anakin win 3PO in a bet off of a Hutt. Obviously, I can’t show this. But in the scene where Anakin is removing the covering on 3PO to show him to Padme, I’ve eliminated a portion of his audio (when his back is turned to the camera), and my plan was to audio-splice some of his other dialogue to get him to say something along the lines of “I won him in a bet off of a Hutt” just after he delivers his line “isn’t he great?”

After trying to find pieces of his dialogue to do this, the best I can sort-of come up with is “I won 3PO betting on the podraces”, but I’m not exactly happy with how it sounds. Because of the different deliveries of the lines I’m pulling from, it’s very obvious that it’s a mashup of his other lines, and it doesn’t sound very natural.

Does anyone know of any better dialogue to use? Even something from another movie he may have been in, or interviews or something? It would help me out tremendously.

Hell, if any of you have kids or know someone who can pull off a convincing Jake Lloyd impression, I’d be open to using it.

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#932985
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Get ready for "Star Wars - Shroud of the Sith", a radical fan edit of "The Phantom Menace"
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Jp4195 said:

I really liked the powerful tone used in the trailer

I liked it too, but I can’t match the voice up to his lips in several scenes, which made me want to interlace his English (basic) speaking with alien garble. The voice in the trailer will be used for a few key scenes, but probably 70% of his dialogue will be alien (my current plan). It’s the alien voice I can’t get right.

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#932900
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Get ready for "Star Wars - Shroud of the Sith", a radical fan edit of "The Phantom Menace"
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I could probably cut another minute and a half out of it. I just didn’t want to make it too short. I’ve seen edits where they’ve made the race simply one lap, but I was never a fan of that. In my opinion, it should be three full laps, which gives Anakin enough time to believably catch Sebulba at the end. And when you keep the three lap structure, you have to include most of the crashes, for continuity sake, otherwise random podracers will just disappear out of nowhere. And I don’t want to cut the Tusken Raiders bits, because that’s one of the few humorous moments in the film that I believe works really, really well.

I can understand why you’d feel like the race starts dragging. It’s just tough finding spots I’m willing to cut. Maybe some of the intro scene. But again, I really like the intro for tension-building. I’ll see what I can do.

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#932070
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Get ready for "Star Wars - Shroud of the Sith", a radical fan edit of "The Phantom Menace"
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Yea, I’m still touching up on the sfx. As for the music piece at the end, this is my thought process:

As the final bit of the race gets drowned out by the binary sunset bits, I wanted to imply Anakin using the force, as Jeebus pointed out. Hopefully that bit translates well. Second, when Anakin and Sebulba are neck and neck, their pods connect. Then the soft piano Imperial March plays. For everyone who knows the Imperial March and what it represents (presumably 99% of the people who would ever watch a fan edit), the soft version might just feel like a playful nod to Anakin’s future. But then I cut to Anakin’s mother and co watching the race. Qui-Gon closes his eyes. He feels something is about to happen. He feels a “vergence” in the force. Cut back to Sebulba struggling to break free of Ani. Cut to Anakin’s mother wincing away from the race. Then, Qui-Gon looks from the viewing tablet to the actual race. He looks concerned. Cut back to Sebulba trying again to pull away. It doesn’t look like Anakin is trying too hard to escape. Then, suddenly, Anakin pulls the lever and sends Sebulba crashing to his death, to the tune of the heavier, actual Imperial March. And then, the crowd cheers. Something about the visual of the crowd cheering a young Darth Vader to the tune of the Imperial March really resonates with me.

The podrace victory may have initially been a celebratory moment. But in my edit, it’s a dark moment. The first true indication of what Anakin will eventually become. What you didn’t see was, in the moments leading up to the race, Sebulba and Anakin have a brutal exchange, where Sebulba tells Anakin that, once he dies in the race, his mother will be sold for Bantha fodder. Throughout the second half of this film, there is a heavy emphasis on Anakin’s feelings for his mother (pointed out even by the Jedi Council), and how those feelings influence him. Killing Sebulba in the podrace is a precursor to Anakin flat-out murdering the sand people in Episode II. If you’ll notice, the end of the podrace does not include the celebratory chanting with QGJ holding Anakin up above the crowd. Qui-Gon is not celebrating. Instead of congratulating Anakin, Qui-Gon goes immediately to Watto to cash in on the bet. After feeling this “vergence” in the force isolated around Anakin, Qui-Gon’s one mission is to train him, because he recognizes the dangers of not training him (which I have as a contrast to everyone else seeing the danger in the training itself).

Anyway, that’s why I have everything the way I do. If I omit anything at all, it would possibly be the softer piano Imperial March, but I’m not sure yet. I may just make it more subtle.

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#931647
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Get ready for "Star Wars - Shroud of the Sith", a radical fan edit of "The Phantom Menace"
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So, I was going to keep this scene a bit under wraps until the release, but I really would like some insight. It’s the full-length podracing sequence. It’s been 100% rescored. The two-headed announcer is gone. Padme’s voice has been pitch-corrected to make her appear slightly younger. Lots of restructuring (too much to list right now).

But the biggest change comes in after the 7 minute mark. I won’t say what it is…just let me know what you think.

This is one of my favorite changes in this edit, and I just want to see what some of you think of it. The SFX needs some polishing (most of it has been recreated), but it’s nearly 100%

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcsiqIzXwx0&feature=youtu.be

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#931606
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Get ready for "Star Wars - Shroud of the Sith", a radical fan edit of "The Phantom Menace"
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Smithers said:

Sheepish said:

Also, I’m looking for a new music piece for the death of QGJ (as in, the moment he is stabbed). The piece I currently have is a bit too harsh for my liking. And the original music piece doesn’t fit well with the cuts I’ve made, and nothing I’ve attempted to use has really impacted me in the way I’m wanting from the scene.

I used the first few seconds of “the stormtroopers” from ANH for the drum beat. Then I used the one where Anakin kills the tusken raiders, maybe try “anakin’s dark deeds” from ROTS for qui-gon’s death and continue to use it for the montage of the Gungans losing as well as Padme being arrested. Then have the exciting part of the music build when Obi-Wan gets angry and the force field shuts down

As usual, you are a huge help!

“Anakin’s Dark Deeds” was absolutely perfect for the tone I wanted. I had to modify it a bit to fit the pacing of the scene, but I’m super happy with how it turned out. I’ll probably upload a preview clip of it tonight or tomorrow.

Jp4195 said:

what about the theme that plays when Kong is shot down and falls off the empire state building from the 2005 film it seems to have a fallen warrior sound to it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdXfVjRZ0yU

Great music piece. I’ll have to store that one in the bank for later.

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#931023
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Smithers' Prequel Fanedits (a Work In Progress)
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Just watched the preview, and I like a lot of your ideas! One thing I would suggest with the Jedi council scene is to cut away from Qui-Gon when he gives the edited line “Obi-Wan will train him”, just because it’s a bit jarring to hear the line and watch Qui-Gon’s lips move differently. Just pick a random clip of one of the council members reacting to something and use that over the line. Should work quite nicely 😃

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#931019
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Get ready for "Star Wars - Shroud of the Sith", a radical fan edit of "The Phantom Menace"
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Also, I’m looking for a new music piece for the death of QGJ (as in, the moment he is stabbed). The piece I currently have is a bit too harsh for my liking. And the original music piece doesn’t fit well with the cuts I’ve made, and nothing I’ve attempted to use has really impacted me in the way I’m wanting from the scene.

I’m looking for something very subtle, but dark. Preferably something from John Williams or another Star Wars composer like Mark Griskey. The piece I’m looking for will be leading directly into the tribal drumming piece that plays over Obi-Wan’s emotional reaction, just for a frame of reference.

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#930728
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Idea: Bad Conservation in ROTJ Made Great?
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Yea, it’s not my favorite addition, but I’ve somehow gotten over my initial rage. I won’t say it’s a welcomed addition, but I’ve just stopped dwelling on it I guess haha.

As for the scene on Dagobah, I came across a clip on YouTube that you may find useful. Someone took the complete track of “Obi Wan’s Revelation” and inserted it over the scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFz8W7fYMy4

It sounds pretty great to me.

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#930520
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Star Wars: A New Threat (TFA EDIT) (Released)
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After reading the posts in this thread, I really do think that the stuff with Mikeluv80 was just a misunderstanding. I wouldn’t go as far as banning him, as I would just giving him a bit of a warning. It’s hard to decipher tone through a keyboard post, and I don’t believe it was his intention to offend anyone.

That being said, I’m really intrigued by this edit, and I look forward to seeing what you come up with. I love TFA overall, but I can agree with the notion of toning down the cheesiness just a hair.

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#930343
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Get ready for "Star Wars - Shroud of the Sith", a radical fan edit of "The Phantom Menace"
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Also, I considered making a separate topic for this, but I could use some help with the audio. Nothing drastic, but if anyone could help isolate the audio in a few scenes (specifically, isolate the vocals), I’d really appreciate it. PM me for details.

I’ve done it with great results in just about every instance I’ve needed to, but there are a few scenes that just haven’t been cooperating with my methods.

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#930074
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Windu's Blue Lightsaber (Resources) [Updated 1/25/15 - EP2 AVAILABLE NOW] *** See First Post***
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Personally, I’m fine with the purple saber(s). But only with Windu and potentially Dooku (as I’ll be doing in my ep 2 edit).

I think color has incredible meaning in Star Wars, which is why the three lightsabers you see in the OT were all different colors. Each represented a significant difference in character from the others’ owners, and the colors mean different things for different characters.

Watching the PT, it is pretty clear from Episode I that Windu is the more aggressive member of the Jedi council. Qui Gon is a peaceful hippy of sorts. Obi Wan is the learner, like Luke was in ANH. Then of course, Maul being a Sith, would have red. The purple never bothered me, as it was distinctive of an aggressive Jedi. Perhaps one who uses anger, who maybe was once tempted by the dark side (simply having the color purple leaves many questions, which I like).

What bothers me is having lightsabers everywhere in the PT. They should have been used sparingly, with Yoda and Sidious never touching one (this makes zero sense to anyone who watched the OT first).

Anyway, sorry for veering a bit off topic. This just gets me fired up.

In short, I’m more than curious to see a version of the PT with simply blue/red lightsabers (could be fantastic), but I don’t think it’s entirely necessary. In my opinion, the OT encouraged the idea of multi-colored sabers beyond red and blue.