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#1108891
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ANH - Skyhopper scenes
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It makes you wonder how the film was going to start. I am not aware of the scripts at all so i have no idea what was revised but i could imagine star wars begining without the battle on the tantive and that being woven in a story that was centered around Luke from the get go which was more than likely an option with skyhopper / binocilars looking at the battle and biggs going off to join the rebellion.

I was actually really hoping they would have did this for rogue one to be honest so i think the opportunity to cross over is now gone but looking at rogue one i can see the timeline overlapping in this film with life on tattoine. The ending was reshot so the tantive scene would have been much more different in the original rogue one edit based on the virtual 3D experience game first look.

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#1108440
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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jarbear said:

I am conflicted about the x-wing engines.

I think the “simple” rationalle is like cars, each year the same model car does go through some changes. Different years have either minor or major over halls.

The pink engines turned into red engines, there is a good bit of time from a New Hope to Return of the Jedi. Tie color changed after A New Hope. It could be the “gray” models came from the Death Star.

Also the Stormtrooper helmets changed to black teeth.

The x-wing engines were meant to be red at least in Empire Strikes Back as when the x-wing leaves “Dagobah” upon the Yoda and Obi-wan conversation. “No… There is another”

first we see the blue/ white floodlights swoop across and then Red light was used to show the glow of the engines as it turned it’s back and flew off. Now if Ady wants to make the engine glow pink on Yoda I think that would be horrible.

So I think the engines are definitely red or meant to be red in Empire Strikes Back.

I always liked the red engines in ANH:R too.

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#1106349
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An American Werewolf In London (mangowolf Edition) V2 Available Now
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It looks very nice just thinking perhaps it is too saturated. It does not feel old it looks like brand new. But it is not a criticism just that i never seen it look like that. So you decide if you want it to feel a bit more dated or brand new.

Although any decent software video player has saturation. It does not have bias and value saturation normally just global color saturation.

I think what i am saying is oldish 80’s horror looks almost too good. These sorts of films benefit from a dirtier look at least in my humble opinion.

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#1105974
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An American Werewolf In London (mangowolf Edition) V2 Available Now
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Mango said:

SilverWook said:

This full frame LD release also has mono sound and is a bit cheaper to come by than the 1995 remaster.
http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/04914/ID5239VE/American-Werewolf-in-London-An

http://www.ebay.com/itm/An-American-werewolf-In-London-Laserdisc-John-Landis-digital-sound-plays-great-/292205447763

I have that one, but my way of ripping laserdiscs sucks, even if just for audio. The 1995 laserdisc was made by the same company as the 1997 DVD, which is my source for audio. The audio was stretched to 5.1, but I compressed it down to mono using Handbrake. Sadly, it’s as close as I’m gonna get for now.

Here is a tip just in case the audio compressed down to mono is some how a bit wrong.

Get Audacity (free software). Make sure the sample rate of the project is the same as Blu Ray Audio (44100 khz or more probably much more) for saving. get ffmpeg plugin for the program.

import the Vob files containing the 5.1 audio into audacity after you will have 5 mono tracks. But Audacity will treat the project as a mono project and mix the 5.1 audio uncompressed to a single mono track. Save as a Wav file at the matched sample rate as the blu ray.

Hope that helps you can then synch it to the blu ray audio and delete that audio and use the other track.

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#1105963
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An American Werewolf In London (mangowolf Edition) V2 Available Now
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Mango said:

Ronster said:

if it’s in synch with the video then it can not be pitched down unless the film is playing at the wrong speed… Just saying.

So is the film frame rate 29.97 fps?

PAL 25fps? this would pitch it up by roughly 4%

You need to get the VHS audio or the Laserdisc Audio not the DVD.

I think you’re misunderstanding this. Older copies of the movie, i.e. laserdisc, VHS, old DVD all have a different sound mix than the 2002 DVD onward. The audio was pitched down by the creators of the film as an intended effect. None of the copies I own are PAL. All of them are NTSC. I own 6 copies of this movie.

I thought every dvd version was remixed with different sounds. Sorry for that I have the 21st anniversary edition but there was a botched release before that in the Uk that had the telephone box scene missing. I don’t think there was any other uk release on DVD and they were all 5.1 mixes.

I think the UK release might be better then?

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#1105951
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An American Werewolf In London (mangowolf Edition) V2 Available Now
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if it’s in synch with the video then it can not be pitched down unless the film is playing at the wrong speed… Just saying.

So is the film frame rate 29.97 fps?

PAL 25fps? this would pitch it up by roughly 4%

You need to get the VHS audio or the Laserdisc Audio not the DVD.

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#1105232
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DUNE 3 HOUR CUT
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There is somone working on a special edition that updates the effects shots.

I only got the TV cut recently but it has become a cherished DVD in my collection. The rdgion 1 steelbook It is the sort of film i would have a go at. It’s in the realm of “it did not go entirely as planned”.

There is no way i would add 2 prologues is this the redux version? With the book chapters?

The worst thing you can do to a lynch film is turn a visual cerebral feast in to a book! Although i can not say i have seen redux. I have seen the third stage and i really like it.

There needs to be another montage showing pauls daughter being born and so on. Too much missing material still and I say bring on the sick Harkonans. There is another cut fight when sting is in that steam thing acording to the script also.

I think it needs more Lynch weirdness less book personally. It’s about 20 minutes off being complete the TV cut. They had 4 hour+ workprint. It’s a shame David Lynch walked away from it but I can’t say i blame him he did an amazing job really.

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#1105199
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Star Wars: deleted and extended scenes * database *
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Ha no worries, I would offer to compile something for you but I have quite a bit on this time of year and work generally takes over and anything else goes by the wayside a bit although I do small bits and bobs for fun though.

I don’t think this forum is a good format though for this layout but similar to the visual comparisons 005 does would actually be a good format! So perhaps it is something he should do if it was literally pre-pared and it would be good to keep it in the same place. I don’t mind helping to compile it, and give descriptions so on. Empire I studied pretty intently the deleted material and script but I don’t have anywhere near as much knowledge on the other films but they are more straightforward I think.

It could be a bit of fun though and also expand in to the cut ideas territory also.

I would like to nominate 005’s account for compiling the list and have it next to his visual comparisons. But not asking him to do the work but we could draft it up here perhaps… And it would be fun!

The perfect companion piece to how the special edition had very little to do with any deleted material that was originally planned to be in the film!

The Juxtaposition is strong with this one…

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#1105125
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Techniques and ways of fixing Black Crush or Crushed Blacks
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Ok so looking at the technique I used for trying to undo black crush one of the parts I think I went wrong with was the screen capping and not changing the Gout to be anamorphic and my screen resolution being a different size to the actual video source. At the end of the day I would not be doing this technique using screen caps if I was doing it to actually get a result for a project. But as a demo it is good enough to demonstrate how to.

This technique can be used to replace highlights from an alternate source but you would need to switch / invert the Luma key to focus on highlights. (My software does not have this option).

So talking about blown highlights when you have blown highlights in every source and there is no replacement to key in as it’s a problem when the filming took place not the transfer.

This shot just really annoyed me because of the guys hat and it would always draw my eyes to his hat rather than anything else. So I had no alternative replacement but I really wanted to deal with this issue.

This was the eventual fix. Something I am not personally too keen on using as it generally messes things up… But in terms of dealing with blown highlights when you have no alternative version to draw from it does a pretty good job of lessening the problem. Basically the process was color correct the footage how you want it. Then add selective correction to blown parts. I think this had six counts of selective correction to bring down the whites to a level that matched the rest of the hat and also de-saturation on the blown hues. This then made this problem far more subtle rather than glaring in your face fluro hat. Afler this was done I rendered the clip and then put this rendered clip in the timeline as a replacement and color corrected again after this process was done. This is very much a hammer and chisel approach to dealing with blown highlights when you have no alternative but want to fix it somehow. Bear in Mind that the contrast needs fixing on this also but it is more or less the finished shot.

So there is an interesting way to deal with the no alternative source for blown highlights. Shadows or black obviously you can not do this with.

Best I could do finished shot

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#1105116
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Star Wars: deleted and extended scenes * database *
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There is quite a few shots you are missing for Empire Strikes back from the trailers.

These off the top of my head are as follows.

Deleted Wampa claw Luke hangs upside down before waking.

Deleted Shot of Shield generator explosion. Big Explosion.

Probe Droid alert and turns head after Han shoots it.

Lando heads for the Landing Platform.

Han pulls Leia behind him before shooting at Vader in Dining Room.

Chewie smacks a Storm Trooper in the carbon freeze chamber really hard.

Luke writhing / struggling in Bacta Tank.

Vader throws Luke with the force down cloud city chasm. This one is unusable as they obviously changed the scene a lot. but you did log it just the description is wrong. he was meant to choke him lift him and then throw him down. there is art for the throttle and lift luke in mid air. He perhaps was not dad in this version…

Extended shot of Han outside cloud city after Falcon landed.

I think that is all of them… You need to check all 3 or 4 trailers. Vivaldi and trailers 1 and 2. Trailer 2 is not in widescreen though.

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#1104314
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Techniques and ways of fixing Black Crush or Crushed Blacks
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This is all simply bad values so not enough mid range vslue and possibly a bit of push of value at the bottom.

Somone who said about magenta hotrod yeah go with that color. Change the value on shots when they go dark like that so value remains more consistant not jumping up and down. It is very easy to remedy and does not require you to mix any images together.

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#1104311
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Techniques and ways of fixing Black Crush or Crushed Blacks
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It’s a great old cartoon and i remember it fondly. Good music too!

I don’t have this release sadly and it’s one to add to the collection at some point. All the controvesy about optimus primes censored death though.

Do you have screen capping capabilities?

I hate it that we don’t get shout factory releases in the Uk too.

I was going to talk about fixing blown highlights when no alternative source is available but not today bit tired now…

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#1104302
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Techniques and ways of fixing Black Crush or Crushed Blacks
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I am only trying to display a technique for crushed blacks really. And I wanted to move on to blown highlights I hope it’s helpful to people.

DNR is a different beast all together. I don’t know any tricks for that. I’m not sure weather this would also work to make something not look not like plastic or waxy or smooth with DNR. I would say you have to find a different version without it but here mixing the 2 as a whole image might take some of that away by making it simply opaque.

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#1104283
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Techniques and ways of fixing Black Crush or Crushed Blacks
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The only option to fix it would be to obtain a print of the film and scan it and from there you could mix or just have the print digitized to watch. This is the big pitfall in this technique but it all comes down to framing or having a match of the complete image or complete affected area of black crush as you can mask in on selected areas too. But you could potentially cheat a bit but in NOES 4 perhaps a 4:3 release could do some of the donkey work and then you might be able to crop in from that a widescreen image but it is quite different framing by the looks of it totally different amounts of the frame.

Try to find a TV Version for NOES 4

so it’s not a UHD release ghostbusters?

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#1104265
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Techniques and ways of fixing Black Crush or Crushed Blacks
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Nightmare on elm street 4 does look bad in the darker shots on capsaholic so with what I am talking about mixing Luma to get rid or black crush the main problem is you would have to conform the sources framing wise and these seem quite different looking at the Junkyard on Capsaholic and the girl in the room with the bike the DVD chops off the top of her head the Blu Ray is better framed but unless there is a source that has the shadow detail and in a similar framing to the Blu-ray then yes it is possible but like I said framing is an issue. But with all the versions of Star Wars and prints and alike it’s not really a problem per say to match the framing so much. In this instance it is a hurdle. (Not that my software can do it very well either!)

Ghostbusters does not seem to be a problem as the framing of the 2009 and new 4K master are pretty much the same and would probably just say get the 2009 Blu-ray potentially on that one. As it does not seem to suffer.

Nightmare on Elm Street 4 is potentially more obscure but if a source exists in the same framing without black crush yes it’s absolutely possible but even if you tried to conform the Blu-Ray to the DVD for NOES 4 you would potentially find more image at the top on Blu and more image at the bottom on DVD so it is a tricky one due to the framing and obscurity and lack of different releases.

Basically you can’t get the detail and the Luma as a whole unless a different release has a framing similar to the Blu ray on this one.

Potentially with the 4K ghostbusters Blu ray it has much more darker color information but your TV might be incapable of displaying it. This is a distinct possibility as mine won’t display HDR or anything… I have a normal old HD LCD monitor still.

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#1104256
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Techniques and ways of fixing Black Crush or Crushed Blacks
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http://www.ghostbustersnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/bluray_comparison_05.jpg

I used these 2 stills to mix the Luma of the 2009 Blu ray and the 4k master.

It does not happen in the blink of an eye… I have to do stuff to it…

so that is why you see both text underneath the image. It is fixable absolutely I boosted the bottom end a bit for the 2009 but there is detail there to boost.

This was a 50/50 Luma mix

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