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#1081165
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STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"**ADYWAN** - **Suggestions now closed**
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^ I have been thinking about this design of the hand puppet a bit yesterday and this morning and I think what you can take away from it is that the Tusks or horns are not a prominent feature. But that also makes very little sense because if an animal grows either tusks or horns they are generally very noticeable as seen in elephants, rhino, rams, goats, deer and pigs.

Not only this but a horn or a tusk also has very obvious uses for either scooping and stabbing or butting and ramming.

So I think it looks like they tried to hide that feature under the fur somewhat on the Hand puppet but i just thought if you were going to give the Wampa Horns or Rams that made sense they would have to be quite a prominent feature to make sense.

So I just thought what shape makes sense and based off the old Mcquarrie painting I think his Horns shape and placement made the most sense.

Excuse the rough job here it is just for the purpose of illustrating the Mcquarrie Horn Placement.

The other thing I noticed is that another feature that makes the Hand puppet so appealing is that the shoulders start half way up it’s head. and it has like a bit of a hunch or hunched back.

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#1080986
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STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"**ADYWAN** - **Suggestions now closed**
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marduk666 said:

Well if the wampa don’t work out you could replace it with a xenomorph.
And then have eggs about hatch a face hugger, he gets his lightSaber out just in time to cut a face hugger in half.
Yesssssss… it’s so almost too perfecsst…

Plenty of K Y Jelly either way!

great! I am really glad it has Ears 😃

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#1080734
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STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"**ADYWAN** - **Suggestions now closed**
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yeah I figured to get the face looking so spot on that Ady would not forget the ears. So interesting the original Hand puppet is going and we will have a new type of Hybrid in revisited?

I honestly do think the pointy ears go very well with the big fat nose though from the original design and gives it an over the top yet still organic feel.

It is much more Fantasy styled than the Special edition. Just a comparison between the Hand puppet and this new Wampa that was all really. I don’t mind if it is different but I thought you were trying to match it precisely to the Hand puppet?

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#1080729
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Deleted Scenes from Films that ended up in Other Films or TV shows Archive List
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Just thought it was worth adding That in the Music Video By Queen “Princes of the Universe” around 2.03

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEJ8lpCQbyw

There is some further deleted footage of Conner Mcleods Quickening from the original Highlander Film along with a short shot of a splash for when a neon letter Lands in the Water in the Silvercup Battle. There is possibly a few more in there also I have not checked all the shots. But I will be adding this to the list.

Something I was reluctant to add to this list was the film “Midway” also including deleted scenes from “the Battle of Britain” It is a claim on the website movie mistakes. I can’t confirm this one as I have neither film.

Just added ROTJ lapti-nek music video.

Any more music videos with deleted scenes in them?

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#1080716
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STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"**ADYWAN** - **Suggestions now closed**
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I think it looks brilliant spot on really but… not trolling at all (no pun intended) Where are his Ears?

Is it that we can’t see them in that video?

It is actually one of the reasons why the special edition Wampa looks wrong.

Also just looking at the Horns on the hand puppet and at your puppet the bottom edge of the horns look like it rests on the middle axis of the mouth. And I don’t know if that is angled down or dropped in height? Because it’s really hard to see them on the Hand Puppet.

They also are not Jet Black but like a white / grey Tusk, But looking at the original hand puppet some more it looks like he had one tusk higher than the other one. wonky tusks if you like. Definitely deformed the tusk on the left is a bit higher up.

Also of note because if that horn on the right which is lower down is correct in that photo above that means the shot of the Wampa hand puppet in the film is perhaps flipped? as in the film the lower protruding horn is on the left. Just saying…

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#1079605
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Deleted Scenes from Films that ended up in Other Films or TV shows Archive List
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Lacerated said:

Ronster said:

There could be a third shot which I am on the fence about the sword being dropped in close up. but it feels like different footage and willing to call it an insert.

That does seem very possibly that it’s from the first film, but I’d have to watch the footage to better assess.

Yep it could be… But the other 2 shots are 100% so it’s logged. In the original film Highlander we see the sword being dropped from quite a distance.

Also of note is that in the original film we get spammed the same shot 3 times from different angles where Connor raises his arms and yells “argh!” so this footage would possibly fill that section rather than the spamming of the same shot and then later the shot where he is in mid air is an extension by the looks of it. Dropping the sword would be alternative take if it’s from the film.

Ok Lexx well if you are not sure and I don’t have those films to check we will leave that logged in the thread and unconfirmed with a question mark over it.

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#1079594
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Deleted Scenes from Films that ended up in Other Films or TV shows Archive List
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LexX sorry I have not added the married with children entry but I am not sure I understand completely. Are we talking about scenes possibly deleted from National Lampoons vacation?

Thanks Earl will add in a bit.

Nothing I can steadfastly report on Death race and Death race 2 but I will leave it floating in highly suspicious category. I have both films and studied them I am leaning towards it being no deleted footage used for the actual races but perhaps possibly other generic material footage could have been taken for slow motion intro sequences and alike but I can not confirm on this.

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#1079169
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The Warriors (1979) 1080p HD Theatrical Cut
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The VHS cut had a different piece of music but due to rights issues a song had to be changed also so the VHS is the original theatrical edit of the sound mix not the DVD or Netflix version for that matter.

Weird though I picked the Pal DVD up in a charity shop today. Not the ultimate version the old dvd.

The original song was “Nowhere to run” changed to “I am a warrior”. That might also affect the end credits?

Edit my bad kt hs only UK VHS that got changed sorry for that.

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#1079014
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Deleted Scenes from Films that ended up in Other Films or TV shows Archive List
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2 Deleted shots used in Highlander “the final Dimension” from the Original Highlander final quickening.

Note these 2 short shots are not found in Highlander 3 the sorcerer only in the re-edit.

this is at least the shots that are in my opinion a dead giveaway because of the animation effects style that is clearly apparent from the original film.

There could be a third shot which I am on the fence about the sword being dropped in close up. but it feels like different footage and willing to call it an insert.

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#1078896
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Our open letter to Disney and Lucasfilm
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Good luck with this, I hope it does do something but I really wish you had gone with the short and blunt version. It is much more grabbing.

That long scroll is too much for social media.

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#1078475
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Watchmen: Midnight
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Bingowings said:

Has anyone tried to use movies like Cloverfield etc to build the missing ‘alien squid’ subplot.

It seemed odd to me to so slavishly copy all the rest of the book (in the original cut) and then leave that out when it was largely the point of the piece.

Artificially generated terror becoming the benevolent tyrant.

I am surprised nobody tried to do the giant alien squid either!

I thought Monsters (Gareth Edwards) might work?

Sounds good this edit.

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#1078456
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Deleted Scenes from Films that ended up in Other Films or TV shows Archive List
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OK Thanks for the correction. I will remove that entry.

Rumormill of Ridleyville!

Bit busy at the mo so keep em coming and I will update list soon.

Not looking for extended tv cuts of the same film but will allow Godfather as was a special made for TV mini-series.

I will look at Highlander 3 and Deathrace when I get the chance. Duel (Spielberg) does not qualify new shots filmed for incredible hulk TV episode.

Do not be afraid to post any suspicions of deleted scenes in other films or TV shows as long as it is labeled as such. All other entries will be added accordingly.

A possible bit of deleted material from Aliens (James Cameron) ended up in the form of a audio log in Aliens Colonial Marines recorded by Michael biehn it appears at the very start of the game. In the fashion of Sigourney Weavers audio log from the Nostomo at the end of Alien. It sounds like his younger self?

Confirmed new voice work recorded by actor Michael Biehn not salvaged from any old recordings.

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#1077985
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Deleted Scenes from Films that ended up in Other Films or TV shows Archive List
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Yes you are all correct ROTJ is destroying any competition now on 5 counts of using deleted scenes or having deleted scenes from it’s own footage in other films.

That Firefox Arcade Game was a massive Rip off I could never figure out how to play the game it was like paying for deleted scenes! I’d say it was made of unused aerial footage though yes I will add it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ53K_DXUVk

Was the computer graphics part of the Video layer in Firefox Arcade?

Was Close to adding Superman Returns for the Marlon Brando bit part but it’s a CGI mash up I don’t think it qualifies.

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#1077860
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Deleted Scenes from Films that ended up in Other Films or TV shows Archive List
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If I recall correctly it is shots of Ewoks being shot at as they run through the forest during the final battle in the Ewok movie.

Another one I need to check is Highlander 3 might used alternate footage from the first films final quickening in the climax and quickening at the end of the 3rd film but definitely not the paper mache head exploding 😃

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#1077821
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Deleted Scenes from Films that ended up in Other Films or TV shows Archive List
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This one

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0452608/

Actually I thought it was better than Death Race 2000 in a way. Comes highly praised for a trashy film night. Can’t confirm this one just yet need to look in to it a bit more.

Did Superman 2 use deleted footage of Krypton for the original Superman film? Although I’m not sure this qualifies as they were shot back to back and were always intended to intermingle on the same shoot schedule.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midway_(film)
This is another Tora! Tora! Tora! one and also uses footage from a bunch of other films. Curious if there could be any unused footage in this also from TTT.

The Final Countdown 1980 also uses footage from Tora! Tora! Tora! but again unsure if it is only stock footage.

Bladerunner & ROTJ now tied in 1st place!


Another Interesting One is Stephen Spielbergs Duel.

Footage was re-used in an episode of the incredible Hulk TV show not Sure if it is deleted footage or not? From the first season episode “Never Give a Trucker an Even Break” (originally airdate on CBS: April 28, 1978).[27] Spielberg was reportedly “not too happy about it,” according to Matheson (writer).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjhtr0vTtcw

But also in Spielbergs film 1941 he revisits the same Gas station in Duel with some of the Same actors and blows up the garage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPnwlNvwBLI

And in the Case of Duel by Steven Spielberg it was originally shot for TV and altered to be a feature film. The voice over from the original TV cut and superimposed eyes on the road were removed.

example of inner dialogue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgoHdfqmw4A

Deleted Scene not available on DVD or Blu-ray

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5y9dxUHLVo

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#1077818
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Deleted Scenes from Films that ended up in Other Films or TV shows Archive List
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The space 1999 footage would definitely qualify as they are unused or longer shots it would seem I will add it on now.

Ok let’s keep note of Battle Star Galactica for now.

One title I am highly suspicious of is Death Race and it’s sequel Death Race 2. I am almost certain the sequel uses loads of unused footage from the original films car chases and the splicing is so quick in the sequel it feels strung together with a bunch of deleted material somewhat.

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#1077811
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Deleted Scenes from Films that ended up in Other Films or TV shows Archive List
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Well i’d say that puts ROTJ out in front for the time being.

I was looking at tv show called pearl that used footage from tora! tora! tora! Doubt it is deleted footage though? Honestly still yet to see the film but I will soon.

I will update the list in a bit cheers SilverWook:)

I suppose the mother of all re-used footage films is battle beyond the stars / Space raiders / starquest 2 / Dead Space and I am sure it also had another release for those special effects shots. But it’s not deleted scenes…

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#1077793
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Deleted Scenes from Films that ended up in Other Films or TV shows Archive List
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A Subject that is interesting (at least to me) is that weird occasional instance of deleted footage from a film ends up in another film or TV Show.

The Reason for this post is to create a definitive list of this strange but perhaps quite frequent thing that happens and with some very major titles involved.

The List So Far.

Empire Strikes Back Special Edition - Contains deleted footage from Return of the Jedi

Ewoks:The Battle For Endor (1985) Unused footage from ROTJ appears in the final battle scenes.

Footage of Tie-fighter pilots from STAR WARS (1977) are used in RETURN OF THE JEDI (1983)

Some of the shots of troopers and Tie Pilots in the corridors of the second Death Star in ROTJ when the executor scrashes in the the surface are deleted scenes from Star Wars (1977)

in the star wars holiday special in the " life on tatooine " segment features deleted scenes from Star Wars namely the Storm trooper Search of mos eisley spaceport.

Within a deleted scene for ROTJ for Luke building his Lightsaber it uses Deleted Footage from Empire Strikes Back of Vader in his Meditation Chamber Slowed down to about half speed to so as Darth Vader’s Lines could fit the sequence.

The Music video Lapti-Nek from Return of the Jedi contained many deleted scenes inside Jabbas Palace.

also of note Revenge Of The Sith Teaser -Alternate take/angle of Alec Guinness talking about Vader from the original Star Wars is used.

Rogue One A Star Wars Story - Uses deleted footage of pilots from the Original Star Wars Film 1977

Back to the Future Part 2 opeing credits in the clouds was originally shot for use in Firefox (1982) Starring Clint Eastwood.

Deleted Aerial Footage shot for Firefox (1982) was used in a Laserdisc Firefox Arcade game made by Atari also.

Game of Death 2 (Bruce Lee) - Contains Deleted footage from Enter the Dragon 1973

Hellraiser 2 Hellbound (Censored and more in uncensored) - Contains Deleted Footage from the Original Hellraiser Movie

Bladerunner (Theatrical Cut) - Contains deleted flyover landscape footage from the Shining (Stanley Kubrick) credit sequence

Stargate - Various deleted footage from the feature film by Roland Emerich was used in the pilot episode of Stargate SG-1 all these shots were removed in children of the God’s Final Cut.

Trail of The Pink Panther (1982) Made well after Peter Sellers death, there’s a bunch of unused footage of him from the previous PP films.

Magical Mystery Tour (1967 The Beatles) It’s alleged unused aerial footage from Dr. Strangelove was used in the Flying sequence. (Much to the ire of Stanley Kubrick.) The black and white footage was colored, (not to be confused with colorization) making it resemble part of the stargate sequence in 2001 A Space Odyssey, which came out the very next year.

Deleted sfx shots from Space 1999 were sold and appeared in other TV Shows - http://catacombs.space1999.net/main/images/sfx/sfx.html

T2: Trainspotting 2017 - uses deleted scenes from the original Trainspotting movie (Danny Boyle) to help as a means to flashback.

The opening B/W montage from MAD MAX 2 (1981) contains a deleted shot of Max from MAD MAX (1979).

The DOCTOR WHO 20th anniversary special - THE FIVE DOCTORS (1983) - used footage from the abandoned 1979 fourth Doctor serial - SHADA.

The slurpasaur fight in One Million B.C., along with outtakes, was ported to many a Sci-Film from the '50s. Among these are Robot Monster, Valley of the Dragons, King Dinosaur, Untamed Women, etc.

The Godfather Epic/Saga/Trilogy 1901-1980 was expanded in a TV mini-series that was specially re-cut by Francis Ford Coppola.

PHANTASM IV : OBLIVION (1998) uses deleted footage from the original PHANTASM (1979), for flashback sequences.

Outtakes from Submersion of Japan, including oil refineries blowing up and buildings collapsing, turn up in Prophecies of Nostradamus.

Le Mans (1971 Steve McQueen) many outtake footage and deleted scenes was featured in a documentary film Steve McQueen the man and Le Mans

Highlander 3 “The Final Dimension” (Not the original Sorcerer Theatrical release) Contains a few short deleted shots from the Original Highlander films final quickening in it’s own respective final quickening.

In the Music Video “Princes of the Universe” By Queen also features some short deleted scenes from the Original Highlander Film

Naked Gun 33 1/3 has the deleted wedding scene from Naked Gun 2½.

The 1980 film Raise The Titanic originally featured an opening sequence depicting the sinking of the Titanic, the sequence would’ve been 12 minutes long. The scene was dropped from the final film and replaced by a photo montage with John Barry’s score over it. The deleted footage resurfaced years later and was used in an episode of the TV show Voyagers (1982-1983), considering the show used the Queen Mary to portray the Titanic its hard to believe they would have the budget to construct a miniature as complex as those seen in Raise The Titanic. Currously, the same episode uses what looks like rear screen projection background plate footage of the bow view of the iceberg from the 1953 Titanic film (I say background plate because the foreground set and actor are not seen in frame). There is also a bit of deleted footage from the 53 film as the underwater shot of the ship’s hull hitting the iceberg is taken from the 53 film but has been extended by several seconds, indicating the shot in the original 53 film was intended to be longer.

In the 1979 made for TV move SOS Titanic, the movie uses unused miniature effects shots from A Night To Remember (1958) but colourises all of the footage in order to fit footage shot for the movie. It is clear the footage is alternate takes and not footage ripped from the 58 film because the placement of lifeboat miniatures and amount of steam radiating from the Titanic’s funnels is different between each movie.

I know there has to be more so please help add to this list!

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#1077428
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Han - Solo Movie ** Spoilers **
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Fang Zei said:

This should probably be retitled as the spoilers thread if we’re going to post stuff like spy photos here.

Just sayin’

Well considering the landspeeder they designed for Rogue One Galen prologue that he was meant to be repairing (he was meant to appear out from underneath it as his introduction) never appeared in the film at all I would not worry about it at this point.

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