Rebelscum

What soundtrack did you add to the visuals? Doesn't the DVD have the original Streamline dub already on there? 

- Edit... ahhh.. I see.. didn't know Sentai did a DVD release of this aswell. 

But upgrading to the Blu Ray visuals must be something you are insterested in right? It's so sharp and nicely defined. Like a new movie. ;)

Hey peepz,

Is anyone combining the excellent visuals of the new Blu Ray from Sentai with the original Streamline dub? I really don’t like the new dub recorded for this new release. Guess it’s part nostalgia… but also it just tries to explain everything too much… not leaving enough for the imagination.

Do you guys know of any project like this?

There are pros and cons to both the mixes…. some of it I like on the DVD's… for example the back to front zooming… yes… I'm a sucker for that kind of stuff. I also like the music spread out across the front and rears… and I really like it when the dialogue is center channel only.  But...I'm gonna take more time to listen to the Hairy Hen track on the 2.5 MKV. I agree that there are some areas where it outshines the tracks on the DVD's. 

Unfortunately I have no skills in video/audio editing to complete that big of a task like joining the DVD/blu ray soundtracks with Harmy's version… and editing out all the unwanted gimmicky bits on the soundtracks. Who know.. maybe someone out there will do this… I love my orginals but I also like "some" of the stuff they did to the movies later on, like the surround sound and fixing the black matte's around the ships etc. Most of it I hate of course… but with Harmy's version I think we've reached a really great outcome with the look and the feel of the OT. 

I have not dvelved as deep into the soundtracks as some of you have... my experience is based of the simple fact that I like really immersive soundtracks... maybe the 70mm mix is richer in sound and more enjoyable in some ways... I am not disputing that... infact I will have to listen to it more to form my final opinion on that. Be that as it may... like I said... since purchasing my home theater setup a year back or so... I really enjoy soundtracks which take advantage of the whole spectrum of my 5.1 setup. Things like sounds moving from the front channels to the back and vice versa... and just overalll wide sound imaging. I like that. But that doesn't mean I don't appreciate the 70mm mix or other perservations mixes... those are made by passionate people who really care about the original sound recordings. It's good to have both actually... 

It's really simple... I just want to enjoy the Original Trilogy in the best way possible... and so far for me that is Harmy's awesome picture quality and a more aggressive surround soundtrack that has features from both the redone 2004 mix and the originals.

I haven't even listened to the Blu ray soundtracks... as I haven't bought those infernal things... but are they better than the DVD soundtracks in any way? 

Yea I'm all for preserving the original audio… but when it comes to enjoying my home theater setup… the 2004 soundtrack (at least on my setup) is more enjoyable and much more immersing, with all speakers getting some workout. Some of the changes might seem a bit "gimmicky" but on the whole I like the surround sound on those DVD's. 

Wish someone could combine Harmy's great quality work with some more up to date sound… either from the Blu Rays or the DVD's….

Ok I see... I had assumed that the DTS HD MA track was taken from the Blu ray's.. and then modified to eliminate any "special edition" additions.

I really enjoy the sound on the DVD's... with all the surround actitivity...  kinda miss that when watching the exceptional video quality on Harmy's 2.5 MKV.

Maybe there are some plans to include the Blu Ray soundtracks on Harmy's versions? The best of video and the best of audio.  

I'm comparing the 2.5 MKV with the sound on my 2004 DVD's... and the MKV is just missing too much surround information... like for example all the panning from the back speakers to the front speakers when ships zoom away or from the screen... I get none of those effects. 

Also for example the scene at the beginning when we first see C-3PO and R2 onboad the Tantive IV... on my DVD's you can clearly hear the background explosions on the rear speakers... but on the MKV that separation is lost and the explosions are heard in the front speakers. 

And also you can hear much more of the music spill out into the rear speakers on the DVD's... on the 2.5 MKV things are silent most of the time. I can also hear the dialogue in the rear speakers. Strange. And when I switch right back to another movie on the WD TD Live it all sound perfect.  

Just ran the Harmy Star Wars 2.5 mkv (19.21GB) on my WD TV Live through my Pioneer AV receiver and I don't get the correct surround imaging... the center channel spills out into the front speakers... I dont get the proper foley effects... 

I don't understand this... this seems to be DTS-HD-MA sound files... but are not encoded properly by my receiver, which I have had no problems with on any other files that contain surround information, like DTS and AC3.

Is no one else experiencing problems getting the proper surround sound from these files?

Invite.. yes please ;)

Edit: sorted... thanks!

I'm using a WD TV Live player which goes through my Pioneer AV receiver via HDMI... I have no problems with any of the files I'm using... either AC3 or DTS... but somehow I'm not getting the right sound layout from these MKV's...

The files are close to 7GB's each (from Piratebay)

Maybe somebody messed with those files before uploading them on there...hmmm

Hi peepz,

Just wondering about the sound on the Despecialized editions… I don’t get the correct surround output from those MKV files… they seem to have AC3 format which should be right for my Pioneer AV receiver… but still I am not getting the correct usage from the back speakers… and the voices are not in the center speaker… but spill out into the other speakers as well…

I know most receivers dont handle AAC…which gives only a stereo output… but the Specialized versions are in AC3 right? Am I missing something here or are those released in 2.0 sound only?

Any info on this would be much appreciated 😉

What kind of sound format is on the Harmy project... I'm wondering with my AV reciever having to decode the audio... is it AAC, AC3 or PCM?

I have a 5.1 channel setup... And what about the DTS sound from the blu rays... will that be available? 

If Hamill was anything close as annoying as when he was whinging about those damn power converters at Toschi station... I fully understand Mr. Guinness... hehe

So what is the verdict on these Coffret laserdisc transfers? Are they better or worse than Moth3r's PAL effort? What are the differences?

Any feedback appreciated ;) 

Hey peepz,

Haven’t been on here a while… but was actively involved some time ago… I’ve tried a few fan projects such as the TR47, Gonzo and Moth3r’s. The best one so far was definitely Moth3r’s effort IMO… looking pretty darn good on my HDTV.

So basically I was wondering if there have been any other PAL projects since Moth3r’s transfers that are worth checking out? Or maybe some NTSC prjoects that are superior?

Thanks for any feedback! 😉

Rebelscum

Hey peepz,

Just wondering about the difference between Moth3r’s excellent PAL transfers and the 2006 GOUT with DIY anamorphic enhancement? I have the Moth3r DVD’s and think they are bloody brilliant, great picture quality on 16:9 TV set. But from the screencaps posted of the GOUT discs, they look pretty good also, really sharp with good colour. If any of you have any comparison stories for me, then that would be most appreciated. I’m just wondering whether to actually purchase the GOUT and do an anamorphic conversion myself…or stick with the good old Moth3r trilogy.

Thanks in advance,