Seems to me there will be a 4K Blu ray release, but it’s prolly now coming for Xmas 2021 as it’s a little too late now to do so. Can’t wait…
Is it possible to get the LD audio synced to the Blu ray? I’m interested on that, but I suck at audio work/syncing unless its just adding a delay
Hello, I just discovered this post. Fantasia is one of my favourite movies for the intense marrying of two of my passions, animation, and symphonic orchestral music. I always knew Disney butchered their movies a lot for their releases, but I had NO IDEA to the extent it went to. Even from some of their not-so-old movies (the Winnie the Pooh one posted here, for example. I never recalled the Blu ray sounded that clear. I checked it afterwards and mother of god, you can tell all the filters… it’s impressive how much they butchered the whole thing.)
But back to Fantasia… I came over this thread (I hope it’s not too off topic!) because, given that the Blu ray track is absolutely bad and not as good as it should be, I’ve been more fond of the 1982 Irwin Kostal re-recording, which is pretty good and faithful. I’ve tried to find people to sync the CD soundtrack to the Blu ray video, since I am terrible at this kind of thing and have no patience and expertise for it. But I’d love to watch Fantasia with a better sound, even if it’s a re-recording, until this project is finalized. Once I see how bad it is… I just can’t stand it. I have to hear Fantasia better. Could anyone help me out with that?
Of course, I’ve read the entire thread and your work is amazing, easily I can tell too it’s done by pure love and passion to the movie and I love that you’re trying to restore the sound to better form. Who knew how many movie sounds Disney has butchered and have no idea. Somebody should do something about that… I personally thank you for your impressive work, and will subscribe to the thread and keep in mind for when the project is finalized, no matter how long it takes, I feel it’ll be worth the wait. Thank you, once more.
Back when D23 was going on in August I attended a small panel about the restoration of disney films during which they showed a couple clips of a BEAUTIFUL scan of Song of the South intermingled in the presentation. Of course very quickly everyone gasped at seeing it and got excited, at which point the guy explained that they aren’t restoring it or releasing it, but that the studio wanted an archival scan. This frustrated me to all hell because the couple clips they showed had very minimal damage and would be a very fast, easy cleanup and the colors were gorgeous. The insistence of Disney to not release this film is baffling. It would take maybe a couple of months to get it to a presentable point and would be easy profit for Disney and they STILL have no interest in a release because (to quote the presenter): “We don’t make the decisions of what gets restored and released. Corporate makes those decisions based on what they think people will buy. Sad, and there are many things I would love to restore, but it is a business after all.”
Does that mean, Disney has digitally archival scans of their movies… all of them, without any of the alterations they did? You mean they could easily release proper remasters of their movies, with grain and film quality if they wanted, easily? Does this mean they have kept archival digital raw scans of almost every movie they do? Does this mean there’s a slight possibility that the clean, raw film like quality of these films are all not lost, and preserved?
I don’t know about ALL of them, but they’re at least starting that process. We don’t know exactly how many films they have scanned in high quality and resolution, but we know of at least the recent blu ray releases, song of the south, and a new scan of Bambi, as clips from both SOTS and Bambi were shown at that presentation.
What I originally meant with my comment is that, judging by what you said there’s a slight chance that Disney keeps raw scans of their films in their digital archive, which means maybe if one day Disney lightens up and wants to do a Criterion, for example, with their animated classics, the hope of having one correct film restoration isn’t too far away if they have all the scans still, to be used whenever.
Back when D23 was going on in August I attended a small panel about the restoration of disney films during which they showed a couple clips of a BEAUTIFUL scan of Song of the South intermingled in the presentation. Of course very quickly everyone gasped at seeing it and got excited, at which point the guy explained that they aren’t restoring it or releasing it, but that the studio wanted an archival scan. This frustrated me to all hell because the couple clips they showed had very minimal damage and would be a very fast, easy cleanup and the colors were gorgeous. The insistence of Disney to not release this film is baffling. It would take maybe a couple of months to get it to a presentable point and would be easy profit for Disney and they STILL have no interest in a release because (to quote the presenter): “We don’t make the decisions of what gets restored and released. Corporate makes those decisions based on what they think people will buy. Sad, and there are many things I would love to restore, but it is a business after all.”
Does that mean, Disney has digitally archival scans of their movies… all of them, without any of the alterations they did? You mean they could easily release proper remasters of their movies, with grain and film quality if they wanted, easily? Does this mean they have kept archival digital raw scans of almost every movie they do? Does this mean there’s a slight possibility that the clean, raw film like quality of these films are all not lost, and preserved?
I wish the Criterion rumour was real, but I doubt it. I strongly think there’s just this one person who hates Song of the South and finds it very racist and the movie won’t ever be released until that person either leaves Disney or dies. Same with the WB censored shorts…
There’s really nothing racist with this movie and Disney not wanting to release it in 2016, knowing how big of a movie it is regardless of the controversia… it’s really, really stupid and sad. Disney could even release it big and it shouldn’t have a high impact. Then people are stupid, and I can see black people group complaining about the release. It’s 2016. Everything offends people these days.
I’m pretty alright with the Blu-ray release of Toy Story, my only minor complain being the logo plastering, really. This movie was made digitally… so, what’s the point of wanting it to look like film, with the then obvious faults of film, like, grain and the contrast? Does it really help or fit the movie at all? It doesn’t fit the clean, digitalized look the picture should have.
Can anybody answer since I don’t have access to my blu rays at the moment to check: Is it just Toy Story that is affected by the changed logo or is it all of those early PIXAR films as well?
As far as I know, the Toy Story logo plastering was done because the 3D version was a theatrical re-release so they had to add the new logo; also been told it’s because the original logo they did had no abilities to be put in 3D so they just decided to replace it.
Bug’s Life features the original logo; the 2009 Blu-ray; Ts2 was also re-released in 3D so I assume it has the new logo too. Monsters Inc, by myself I never kow if it had the new logo - probably the 2009 Blu-ray did had the old logo, but the 3D re-release may have the new. Finding Nemo is plastered (beacause it was also reworked in 3D and reissued to theatres), The Incredibles I think has the original logo, and Cars and Ratatouille, too.
Hm… seeing your comparisons, seems like the 1080p web version looks really horrible, it’s impressive how the trailer looks way better. Could it be the transfer is a direct version of the digital print of the original movie…? Or not. Whatever, looks to be seriously tinted and overdone.