Located and currently reseeding on someone’s spleen. Not sure why anyone is still interested in this. But, for those who are . . . there it is 😉
FrankT said:
It's a sacrilege that they'd withold it though - it inspired Splash Mountain, did it not!?
Heck, I'd go further and say withholding it propogates a racist narrative. The film takes place in a post-slavery South, focuses on the damage bigotry causes on an individual level, and ends with a message of acceptance and healing. I don't trust the motivations of anyone seeking to keep it from the public.
I can tell you that both the BCI and Mill Creek Filmmation DVDs suffer from a botched PAL-to-NTSC conversion. The shows had already been remastered for home video in the UK. When BCI opted to use those PAL masters as their source, they failed to slow them back to film-speed before converting them to NTSC. So, everything is sped-up, the sound has a higher pitch than the original broadcast, and there are blending problems aplenty.
If you want to see a really ugly one, check out the DVD of Space Sentinels. There appear to be double interlace lines throughout, creating a bit of a double-image. If I had access to my copy, I'd post some screen grabs. It's almost like BCI failed to resize the image from 576i to 480i.
I'm willing to...once I'm in a position to do so. For the past year, most of my worldly goods (including my hard drives) have been in storage. I'm hoping that situation will change in a few months and I'll start reseeding all of my projects (old and new) at that time.
So, if no one else can restart a seed and you're able to wait...
team_negative1 said:
We have a scan of the 1981 crawl, in case it will be needed for an alternate version.
Team Negative1
As someone whose earliest memories of Star Wars are from TV and home video, this makes me incredibly happy. The '81 reissue has been and remains my preferred version.
jimjimmyjones85 said:
DouglasJ said:
I want this is 1080p badly. I always miss the good stuff.
You and me both brother :(
My 2 cents? You didn't miss anything with the 35mm disc, which was not 1080p, only SD. I was lucky enough to snag it. Overall, I liked the picture quality, but there were too many splices where frames were missing. One in particular lasted a good few seconds (when Br'er Rabbit is being held over the briar patch). The 16mm 1080p WMV, which is still out there, does not suffer these splices and is much preferable.
althor1138 said:
It's great to be able to watch this in it's entirety. Thanks for sharing!
I've noticed there are duplicate frames? Also, Reel 1 is missing some footage at the end.
EDIT: so far it seems like reel1 is the only one with duplicate frames. I still have to check 3 and 4 though.
I just posted this same thing on the Spleen. Glancing at all of the reels in VirtualDub, Reel 1 seems to be the only one that is affected.
Not sure. If you look closely at the roadshow LD, it appears more than one source was used. Added 70mm scenes are more faded and seem to suffer from more rainbowing.
And there is one scene in particular midway through Side 1 when two men are riding up on a horse that immediately follows a scene not present in the 35mm version. (I wish I could give you a screengrab or at least a rough timecode.) Not only is there a jump-cut in quality, but I think there was a slight shift in the screen composition, too.
My guess is the LD is already a composite of the 70mm and 35mm versions with higher-quality 35mm shots used wherever possible. If that's the case and the aspect was already altered to match one or the other, there might not be much of a difference between it and the DVD to contend with.
I have the roadshow LD and am hoping to make a capture in the next month or so. Unfortunately, I've been stuck in an extended stay motel for the past few weeks, so life is on hold. I'm hoping to color match it to the DVD and make a composite. Same with "Hawaii" once I get the chance.
I'm currently in an extended-stay motel, but I'll definitely look into making a new LD transfer after I get back to some semblance of normalcy.
skyjedi2005 said:
There was going to be a restoration undertaken by Mr Robert Harris unfortunately the studio did not want to do the project.
They are more than happy with the chopped up version.
I keep hoping to see this edition happen from Criterion. After MGM let them dig into "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World", a restored "The Alamo" didn't seem too impossible.
Not sure if one's floating around. I picked up the LD (along with the LD Producer's Cut of "Hawaii") a while back and was hoping to make a composite between it and the Theatrical DVD sometime before Christmas. But, I seem to be moving every few months and haven't yet had a chance to make a digital capture.
Sorry, I meant it's the same take (which varies from that of the '09 edition) as the LD, not that the color timing is the same. But, I can confirm the deleted scenes on the NTSC release are 16x9 anamorphic, since I used them as a source in my now lost '83 reconstruction.
Just to clarify, the shot listed in the picture above as "2002 DVD" is from the "deleted scenes" section, not the actually Director's Cut presentation, and is the same version found on the LD.
A few years ago, I completed a custom 3 DVD set with a widescreen reconstruction of the Special Longer Version and a copy of the Theatrical Cut with the orignal subtitle typeface. I might have also used the LD audio for the TC, but I don't remember. Unfortunately, my DVD+R DL backups went bad and the copies I thought I'd made to my external HD weren't there. And, to add insult to injury, the few people I sent physical copies to (I think there were only 3) couldn't be bothered to help me create backups from their discs. Swell :/
Now that my sob story is finished, one thing I did notice at that time (and did save as a screengrab) was an alternate shot used during the mindmeld scene on Vulcan. The Deleted Scenes on the '02 DVD and the LD featured one version, while the '09 DVD/BD and Director's Cut featured another. The hand placement and Spock's expressions are slightly different.
(Please note this screengrab was after I'd completed my "lost" custom disc and does feature the replaced subtitles.)
I wonder which is true to the original Theatrical Cut. I lean toward the first.
Darth Mallwalker said:
Got the four replacement parts without errors.
Still, attempts to repair the archive are failing
and verbose mode isn't offering many clues.
Anybody suggest a different par app to try?
This may sound like an overly-obvious solution, but have you renamed the replacements to the same filenames as the originals? I had to do that when it still would not unpack initially.
Oooh...I'll definitely snag these once you put them on the Spleen. I'd be interested in putting together a composite version when I have some free time. But, no guarantees of when that would be.
Thanks, althor1138! Just finished downloading the corrected parts and repaired/extracted the avi file without any difficulties.
Thanks so much for this, althor1138! I've been waiting a long time to have access to a high quality transfer of the JSC :)
Edit:
I seem to be having some problems with a few corrupt parts of ESB Side 4, which I cannot get to repair. PM sent.
I certainly hope you'll continue uploading the rest of the trilogy, althor1138. I'm very much looking forward to getting newsgroup service again and downloading these once they're all posted :)
It should still be up on Cinemageddon and MySpleen. Last time I checked MySpleen still had seeders.
Sorry, I'm currently only able to offer it via torrents. I stopped using file-storage services when MegaUpload disappeared. Too much time uploading stuff just to have it go up in smoke.
rockin said:
I really wish Warner Bros would just give us the extended international cuts of Superman and Superman 2 already.
I read somewhere (don't ask me to dig it up) that WB had planned on releasing the TV Cut of the 1st film back in '01, but Donner said he'd want his name taken off of it. Not sure whether it's true or not.
Asaki said:
alex s said:
It was the 2001 152 minute version shown on AMC
So I'm not imagining things? AMC was showing the KCOP cut?
Or are you saying that AMC showed the director's cut and not the KCOP?
The 152-minute cut is the '01 Extended Version found on DVD and BD, not the KCOP Cut.
dvdmike said:
Why would Universal licence them just to be shown up?
They already have been shown-up...and seem to be just fine with it. Look at Shout's "Halloween II" versus the original Universal Blu-ray. It might come from the same initial master, but Shout's is a cleaner presentation. Plus, Uni allowed Shout to include the TV Cut, which they themselves had no intention of releasing.
Shout's upcoming "Darkman" will doubtless exceed Uni's existing BD as well. And, I'd say Universal would not be licensing to Criterion if they did not expect their own editions (like that of "Brazil") to be totally surpassed.
If Universal was concerned with being "shown-up", they'd limit Shout to movie-only releases, such as Disney pulled with Anchor Bay. Remember that "Watcher in the Woods" debacle (which was spawned by "The Happiest Millionaire" DVD)? Or, they'd keep everything in-house.
dvdmike said:
Shout use the masters universal give them same with criterion (mostly)
So did Anchor Bay when they had it, save for Campbell's video copy. But, I know a guy who knows a guy (yeah, one of those) who used to work at AB during that period. He claims that, back when they were producing their Limited Edition, AB contacted DeLaurentiis studios about additional footage and the Director's Cut and were told no material was available. And, that they were shocked (and a bit angry) when it popped-up for MGM's release.
I can't see a company like Shout just sticking to Universal sources if they know others are available which they may be able to garner...assuming the price is right.