just wondering what sort of losers are wasting time on all these fake teaser trailers. LOL!
The idea is to get people to see BIG HERO 6 and the other Disney flicks. So, I think it's going to be an alternate trailer. That would make sense.
The GIF thing reminds me of that SUPERSHADOW dude. lol
what happened to good old Supershadow, btw!
I am going out on a limb and say that the GIF Falcon shot is a fake.
Just have to wait....lol
Wow! The Nurse Chapel 'smirk" exists in the trailers? and in good quality.
That makes the project worth it.
Thanks man!
A lot of it we owe to you. You created that rough cut of the British Cut. Without that rough unfinished version this all would not have happened. All of these cut snowballed from that. You of all people should have the Early European Version restoration. I need to get that to you.
Here is a break down on why we came to these names and some other info on the edits.
Special Zeist Edition -
This version is basically the "Special Edition 2006 DVD". The reason why we named it the 'Special Zeist Edition" is because it is the 2006 DVD but edited to add the Planet Zeist, Quickening and the Prize references back in the film. All these references were cut when they came up with this future "Renegade Version" idea. The 2006 DVD has the new special effects and the new "Blue Shield" so we wanted to make clear that it is an edit of the "Special Edition" not the "Renegade Version" of the film. IMHO, this is my favorite name for all of the Highlander 2 DVDs. A ton of work went into this version. Note: This is the reason why it does not include the fairytale ending because it follow the "Special Edition" 2006 release to a T. The fairytale ending was never intended for the "Renegade/ Special Edition"
Extended Zeist Version -
This verison was created with the idea of adding the "kitchen sink" to the "Renegade Version of the film. This version is basically an extended version which follows the story line of the "Renegade Version" but adds and extends scenes. This edit retains the "orange shield effects" trying to make it clear that is is an extended renegade based version. We have added all the Planet Zeist, Quickening and Prize dialog and footage back into the film. This version even included theCannes footage and all the deleted scenes back in the film. Yes, there is alternate footage in the Cannes 10 minute trailer(take a look, it's cool) some of the footage is really cool- includes some extened quickening explosions, cars exploding, an extended scene were Connor pulls out his sword in the warehouse when the cab driver drops from the ceiling, extended Brenda, etc. (take a look)
At first this was a full blown DL DVD -9 with commentary from us about the edit as well as the original score, soundtrack, deleted scenes, enhanced deleted scenes, TV spot , two trailers (including a restored French trailer) and the "To be or not to be" documentary. We also even had a text commentary ( like the Superman II RIC DVD) breaking down each added scene since there was over 20 minutes that was added to the film. This version would have been released with the European scenes in 1:85.1 (this was because wee used the old Japanese DVD footage) So NOW we were ready to go and release it to all of you! RIGHT? WRONG! When were were getting set to put the film on that demon place a guy by the name of TRACK100 (who is credited on the SDDVD-5 ) found an old widescreen transfer of the European version from a laserdisc (In Italian only) in not to bad quality. This version had the opening credits and endning credits in Italian (becuase this was the way it was released in Italy in theatres) but keep in mind we needed only the alternate footage that didn't exist in the other versions only. So now we postponed the release and had to add in all these widescreen scenes, not to mention color correct, enhance, etc. When we finished we decided that more people would download the film if it was a SLDVD-5 so we cut all the extra features except, the restored trailer, enhanced deleted scenes and the ever popular recreation of the extended script version of the "fairytale" ending. (which was now possible because of the officially released deleted scenes on the 2006 DVD SE)
Restored Early European Version -
This version is actually an alternate Highlander II version which was created with alternate funding from an outside group. (Nigel Entertainment) This is my favorite version of the film as it actually had input from the director and producers. This is the version of the film they used to create the Renegade Version. In 1995 at a sci-fi geek convention I came across a bootleg version of this film. This version was in poor shape and had Japanese burned in subtitles and it was fullscreen.
The funny thing was is that this was the version that was common on U.S. television, namely TBS. In the past I had not taped that cut and it was no longer played on TV so I had no copies of this version until that time.
Anyways, in 1998 I came across yet another poor quality version of this film but in widescreen. Then in 2006 I came across this message board and the rest is history. I wanted a clean version of this film and the stuff I collected over the years could make that happen, so I found people to help put it together.
It was named "The Restored Early European Version" because it is based on the Euro version of the film (explained above) Actually, this version was released first in Europe and then pulled because fans hated the "fairytale ending" so much that it was quickly edited from the film and re-released in Europe a month later wthout the "Fairytale" ending (hence the word EARLY European Version). I do not think people realize how much work had to go into this version to create it. In the end this was the version we needed to be able to create the others.
Restored American Cut -
This one we decided to create just for Phineasbg and me only. I got a copy of the TF1 video and I was quickly dis-heartended because of the bad 5.1 audio that TF1 created - it has a horrible hissing noise and half way through the video it is off dialog (out of sync) (not matching the lips) with the film. So quicky we decided to fix that problem but when we attempted to clean the existing 5.1 audio you can still hear that damn hissing noise (and we hated it) We also even tried to match the sync problems but there seemed to be problems with speed of the film (this one is a wired speed as it drops several frames). In the end EVRYTHING was tried but all failed. We decided the best thing to do was to restore the 2.0 soundtrack from a OOP laserdisc transfer - this matched up perfectly and we were on our way.
We also color corected, enhanced footage, and used the best possible footage from several other version to have the best possible quality prints. So we named it the "Restored American Cut" because it was the AMERICAN edited version of the version first released in Europe that failed miserably in the spring of 1991.
I don't think people realize how much I like this film. As it stands I have about 24 different releases of this film in various edits.
I love your uniformity ideas but the menus and the DVDs are done and created already. Poeple are already downloading so to change the names at this time would be hell, lol!!!
I am a fan of Highlanderf - the SOURCE also, and we know that story! It is almost the same story, wierd! Released in Europe and then recut for American audiences.
I really like your covers Pineapple101
a Criterion of the Rough cut with all the extras would be cool. It could be three discs with the Special Zeist Edition included.
Disc One - Dual layerwith never before seen rough cut
Disc Two- Special Zeist Edition
could be fun
This was the trailer for the Extended Zeist Edition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyRX5kSviS4
Yes, it's on the rough cut DL we never released.
Go to this site - offers insite on all the known versions.
I love it!
WOW!! one of the best films....
This is one film that i wanted to see in it's theatrical version on Bluray and now you have made that possible. Thanks
Special Zeist Edition -
This version is basically the “Special Edition 2006 DVD”. The reason why we named it the 'Special Zeist Edition" is because it is the <span style=“text-decoration: underline;”>2006 DVD</span> but edited to add the Planet Zeist, Quickening and the Prize references back in the film. All these references were cut when they came up with this future “Renegade Version” idea. The 2006 DVD has the new special effects and the new “Blue Shield” so we wanted to make clear that it is an edit of the “Special Edition” not the “Renegade Version” of the film. IMHO, this is my favorite name for all of the Highlander 2 DVDs. A ton of work went into this version. Note: This is the reason why it does not include the fairytale ending because it follow the “Special Edition” 2006 release to a T. The fairytale ending was never intended for the “Renegade/ Special Edition”
Extended Zeist Version -
This verison was created with the idea of adding the “kitchen sink” to the "Renegade Version of the film. This version is basically an extended version which follows the story line of the “Renegade Version” but adds and extends scenes. This edit retains the “orange shield effects” trying to make it clear that is is an extended renegade based version. We have added all the Planet Zeist, Quickening and Prize dialog and footage back into the film. This version even included the_Cannes footage_ and all the deleted scenes back in the film. Yes, there is alternate footage in the Cannes 10 minute trailer(take a look, it’s cool) some of the footage is really cool- includes some extened quickening explosions, cars exploding, an extended scene were Connor pulls out his sword in the warehouse when the cab driver drops from the ceiling, extended Brenda, etc. (take a look)
At first this was a full blown DL DVD -9 with commentary from us about the edit as well as the original score, soundtrack, deleted scenes, enhanced deleted scenes, TV spot , two trailers (including a restored French trailer) and the “To be or not to be” documentary. We also even had a text commentary ( like the Superman II RIC DVD) breaking down each added scene since there was over 20 minutes that was added to the film. This version would have been released with the European scenes in 1:85.1 (this was because wee used the old Japanese DVD footage) So NOW we were ready to go and release it to all of you! RIGHT? WRONG! When were were getting set to put the film on that demon place a guy by the name of TRACK100 (who is credited on the SDDVD-5 ) found an old <span style=“text-decoration: underline;”>widescreen</span> transfer of the European version from a laserdisc (In Italian only) in not to bad quality. This version had the opening credits and endning credits in Italian (becuase this was the way it was released in Italy in theatres) but keep in mind we needed only the alternate footage that didn’t exist in the other versions only. So now we postponed the release and had to add in all these widescreen scenes, not to mention color correct, enhance, etc. When we finished we decided that more people would download the film if it was a SLDVD-5 so we cut all the extra features except, the restored trailer, enhanced deleted scenes and the ever popular recreation of the extended script version of the “fairytale” ending. (which was now possible because of the officially released deleted scenes on the 2006 DVD SE)
Restored Early European Version -
This version is actually an alternate Highlander II version which was created with alternate funding from an outside group. (Nigel Entertainment) This is my favorite version of the film as it actually had input from the director and producers. This is the version of the film they used to create the Renegade Version. In 1995 at a sci-fi geek convention I came across a bootleg version of this film. This version was in poor shape and had Japanese burned in subtitles and it was fullscreen.
The funny thing was is that this was the version that was common on U.S. television, namely TBS. In the past I had not taped that cut and it was no longer played on TV so I had no copies of this version until that time.
Anyways, in 1998 I came across yet another poor quality version of this film but in widescreen. Then in 2006 I came across this message board and the rest is history. I wanted a clean version of this film and the stuff I collected over the years could make that happen, so I found people to help put it together.
It was named “The Restored Early European Version” because it is based on the Euro version of the film (explained above) Actually, this version was released first in Europe and then pulled because fans hated the “fairytale ending” so much that it was quickly edited from the film and re-released in Europe a month later wthout the “Fairytale” ending (hence the word EARLY European Version). I do not think people realize how much work had to go into this version to create it. In the end this was the version we needed to be able to create the others.
Restored American Cut -
This one we decided to create just for Phineasbg and me only. I got a copy of the TF1 video and I was quickly dis-heartended because of the bad 5.1 audio that TF1 created - it has a horrible hissing noise and half way through the video it is off dialog (out of sync) (not matching the lips) with the film. So quicky we decided to fix that problem but when we attempted to clean the existing 5.1 audio you can still hear that damn hissing noise (and we hated it) We also even tried to match the sync problems but there seemed to be problems with speed of the film (this one is a wired speed as it drops several frames). In the end EVRYTHING was tried but all failed. We decided the best thing to do was to restore the 2.0 soundtrack from a OOP laserdisc transfer - this matched up perfectly and we were on our way.
We also color corected, enhanced footage, and used the best possible footage from several other version to have the best possible quality prints. So we named it the “Restored American Cut” because it was the AMERICAN edited version of the version first released in Europe that failed miserably in the spring of 1991.
I don’t think people realize how much I like this film. As it stands I have about 24 different releases of this film in various edits.
I love your uniformity ideas but the menus and the DVDs are done and created already. Poeple are already downloading so to change the names at this time would be hell, lol!!!
I am a fan of Highlanderf - the SOURCE also, and we know that story! It is almost the same story, wierd! Released in Europe and then recut for American audiences.
very interested in this, please IM me with on how i can get this. Thanks
very rude of you after I responded to you on this. Anyhow, I think back then i miss typed that i had a Far and Away Encore version, I believe the conversation was about Waterworld.
Anyhow, in the years since I dug through my garage and did manage to find the actual tape from ABC. There has been a one disc version from TBS that has floated around but i can tell you I do have the ABC cut. There is no Encore version that I know of. Possibly, that was ll a misunderstanding.
anyhow, IM me and we can discuss it further. Sorry that i somehow wronged you. I usually helped people out.
these were just beautiful btw! Pugo......
I can tell you I have never heard of an ENCORE version, there is a Waterworld Encore version but not a Far and Way.
I am very sure the only time this aired was on it's original run on ABC to pad time.
Sadly, the DVD is the theatrical version
In fact Far and Away was on USA the other day and it was the theatrical version. USA Network is notorious for play TV versions so if it is not played there then the chances are slim. There is a station known as Ovation which tends to play TV version once in a while but it's random.
if you type in workprint collection in your search engine, you should be able to find a page to someone who may have it.
Per rules we can not post links
oh we all have broke copyrighted laws if you want to look at it. DigitalfreakNy discs I own. Anyhow, this is a place for friends. Lets all get along ;-)
Many scenes were added to this T.V. version which were missing in the home video version.
an NBC version does exist somewhere. The TBS version is the most common
The version appeared on ABC-TV in 1987 and included altered scenes. A scene in the mayor's office from the "dickless" line to the now famous "Wally Wick". It has become a minor legend among Ghostheads (fans of the film).
What Alex said!
How's that for a Magic trick>
digitalfreaknyc said:
I'll send a free copy of my blu-ray to anyone who will create artwork for the set with 1 and 2 together. ;)
So, your saying that this exists?
How are your digitalfreaknyc. Hope all is well buddy!
There is and never will be a KCOP cut. Rumors run rabid. The version Bowers put up was a 16mm print and not the restored cut that doesn't exist. I do have some clips from the project that were restored but as times went on the KCOP cut ended in failure. We did finish Dune - Third Stage and all the Highlander II's though. However, sadly the KCOP was never finished. I just wish this thread would go away. lol....
Thanks buddy, I am going to seed this forever....
This is something special. I collect rare films and this is ONE rare film.
People should see this history. Preservation's save our history.
Thanks guys but it seems no one to the rescue. I'll still seed my 91%......
Happy Turkey Day all...