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Mike O
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- I got a response from Leonard Maltin.....
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- I know it's odd, but...werewolf movie question
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- The "original crawl" on the new DVD is NOT the original crawl! Screenshot inside!
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- first viewing of the 2006 OOT dvds
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- I got a response from Leonard Maltin.....
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Originally posted by: Anchorhead
I'm just saying that I don't understand why you think that the OOT will never see a proper release and why you are being so negative. I'm not attacking you or anything-quite the contrary-you just caught me off guard and made me really depressed. I do think that there will be a proper OOT release, and hopefully soon. Perhaps we read the signs differently. I'm a romantic. You're very pragmatic. I just wondered why you had such an attitude, especially given Lucas's comments of late. I was wondering why you had scorned so many of the theories popping up here. Again, understand, I mean no offense, and certainly don't want to attack you. I just wondered why you felt the way that you did, rather than more optimistic. There is, of course, a point at which you don't care anymore, but even so, that shouldn't necessarily affect your feeling about the future, should it? I'm just hoping you're wrong, that's all
If he can get enough money out of it he will release anything, no matter what he has said.
Originally posted by: Mike O
What makes you so pessimistic?
I'm not pessimistic at all, nor am I depressed - far from it. I'm apathetic. Honestly, I don't care what version Lucas releases, what his motives are, or what he's said about it before now.
Lucas doesn't control how I see Star Wars. When I want to see Star Wars, I put in a bootleg copy(or the XO version when it is available), I push play and I go on an adventure. I don't care about features, menu screens, commentary, documentaries, behind the scenes pieces, interviews, or anything else. I skip that stuff on nearly every DVD I own.
The story is the only thing I'm interested in. The bootlegs are very watchable and future versions will be as well. I can already watch Star Wars the way I want to - I don't care what Lucas does or says. When he gives interviews, or talks about how things were in the 70s and starts with his lying and revisionist history crap - he might as well be burping the alphabet. His words are that meaningless.
What makes you so pessimistic?
I'm not pessimistic at all, nor am I depressed - far from it. I'm apathetic. Honestly, I don't care what version Lucas releases, what his motives are, or what he's said about it before now.
Lucas doesn't control how I see Star Wars. When I want to see Star Wars, I put in a bootleg copy(or the XO version when it is available), I push play and I go on an adventure. I don't care about features, menu screens, commentary, documentaries, behind the scenes pieces, interviews, or anything else. I skip that stuff on nearly every DVD I own.
The story is the only thing I'm interested in. The bootlegs are very watchable and future versions will be as well. I can already watch Star Wars the way I want to - I don't care what Lucas does or says. When he gives interviews, or talks about how things were in the 70s and starts with his lying and revisionist history crap - he might as well be burping the alphabet. His words are that meaningless.
I'm just saying that I don't understand why you think that the OOT will never see a proper release and why you are being so negative. I'm not attacking you or anything-quite the contrary-you just caught me off guard and made me really depressed. I do think that there will be a proper OOT release, and hopefully soon. Perhaps we read the signs differently. I'm a romantic. You're very pragmatic. I just wondered why you had such an attitude, especially given Lucas's comments of late. I was wondering why you had scorned so many of the theories popping up here. Again, understand, I mean no offense, and certainly don't want to attack you. I just wondered why you felt the way that you did, rather than more optimistic. There is, of course, a point at which you don't care anymore, but even so, that shouldn't necessarily affect your feeling about the future, should it? I'm just hoping you're wrong, that's all
If he can get enough money out of it he will release anything, no matter what he has said.
I feel that same sort of perverse optimism.
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- We're Still Immature Whiners to MSNBC
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- I got a response from Leonard Maltin.....
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Truthfully, I'm not terribly concerned with it anymore because I honestly don't think it will ever be released. I don't think Lucas is testing the waters, or will have a change of heart, or is waiting for the mega-box set, or will come to his senses, or any of the other theories floating around. This is the only original version he's going to release.
Thanks. That sure makes me feel great . I guess that we should wait and see. What makes you so pessimistic? I think that this attitude has come about because of this announcement and the ComiCon presentation, and other things which have happened lately. But I think there is so much pessimism on this board that it is becoming depressing. Cheer up, Anchorhead. This isn't the end, it's the begining. I feel so much pessimism too, but maybe some good will come of all of this. Lets not lose our hope yet. And by the way, Anchorhead, I must point out something. Lucas has pretty much admitted that he is testing the waters with this release in the MTV interview. Didn't he say that it would never be released? And now its come out. Who's to say that this is the last release. I find your lack of faith disturbing. And incredibly depressing.
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Originally posted by: skye_solo
I don't think we have much hope. He's probably gonna leave the rights to his kids, and we can all see the great additions they've helped tack onto the saga. N*Stink and JarJar. And Hayden because he was *cute*. HOW cute. Star Wars RIP.
I don't think we have much hope. He's probably gonna leave the rights to his kids, and we can all see the great additions they've helped tack onto the saga. N*Stink and JarJar. And Hayden because he was *cute*. HOW cute. Star Wars RIP.
Why is it dead now? Everyone was so willing to fight before. This DVD release is a sign of things to come. Lets not give up now. Everyone here is disheartened, but the mood is too gloomy. It's not over till the fat lady sings. We've still got plenty of fight left. We need the optimism to come back to this board.
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- Another Form Of Protest?
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Originally posted by: Mielr
They'll care. "Sound And Vision" mag and "The Perfect Vision" mag will DEFINITELY rake GL over the coals for this. So will any other home theater magazine that reviews new DVD releases, and comments on their picture/sound quality.
Originally posted by: Mike O
Lucas is stubborn, inconsistent, and frustrating. But he's not stupid.
True, but they probably won't care, as they don't seem to care about anything else.
Lucas is stubborn, inconsistent, and frustrating. But he's not stupid.
Like I mentioned before, I think the press is going to do a lot of our work for us and give us a head start, because any magazine reviewer or movie reviewer worth his/her salt is going to lambaste Lucasfilm for releasing these classic films in such an outdated fashion.
True, but they probably won't care, as they don't seem to care about anything else.
They'll care. "Sound And Vision" mag and "The Perfect Vision" mag will DEFINITELY rake GL over the coals for this. So will any other home theater magazine that reviews new DVD releases, and comments on their picture/sound quality.
I know, what I'm saying is that Lucasfilm will proably say the same thing that they have said to us: these version are rough drafts that don't need to be restored and therefore we are lucky to be getting them at all and that the original trilogy is dead to Lucas. In other words, people will tell them that this release sucks and he'll say, "Yeah, I know. And your point is?"
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Originally posted by: Mielr
His stubbornness has become the stuff of legend.
Originally posted by: Ozkeeperd.
..and still some people try to claim that George Lucas' attitude isn't known beyond these pages. Yeah. Right.
..and still some people try to claim that George Lucas' attitude isn't known beyond these pages. Yeah. Right.
His stubbornness has become the stuff of legend.
Unfortuately, it doesn't seem that there is a blessed thing that anyone can do about it.
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Originally posted by: JediRandy
OK, I get. I never said that the movie was my. Why the heck are you attacking me?
Uhh, that's his signature. It's in every post of his until he changes his signature.
Originally posted by: Mike O
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Originally posted by: JediRandy
"I'm sure the folks at LucasFilm are aware of the outcry from diehard fans, but if you know anything about George Lucas, then you know that he tends to do exactly as he pleases.
a.k.a.
Oh well.
No, a.k.a., there's nothing I can do.
I'm an optimist who sees pie in the sky. You just told the truth, and it was hard to hear. It's not your fault. But the battle is not over yet.
"I'm sure the folks at LucasFilm are aware of the outcry from diehard fans, but if you know anything about George Lucas, then you know that he tends to do exactly as he pleases.
a.k.a.
Oh well.
No, a.k.a., there's nothing I can do.
Its not your movie, never was, never will be.
I never said it was. Thanks for reminding me for the 63rd time though.
I really didn't mean to depress you in what I said on the other thread.
I never said it was. Thanks for reminding me for the 63rd time though.
I really didn't mean to depress you in what I said on the other thread.
I'm an optimist who sees pie in the sky. You just told the truth, and it was hard to hear. It's not your fault. But the battle is not over yet.
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OK, I get. I never said that the movie was my. Why the heck are you attacking me?
Uhh, that's his signature. It's in every post of his until he changes his signature.
I know. But JR's attitude on this board makes sure that he reminds us of that in every post, even if it wasn't in his signature.
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- first viewing of the 2006 OOT dvds
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Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
"It can't. But we are meant to think it can. "
LOL...Nice one.
Thanks .
What's this I hear in many threads about Hamill and Kurtz ripping on Lucas in the press, is this recent about the dvd's or just about the special edition?
"It can't. But we are meant to think it can. "
LOL...Nice one.
Thanks .
What's this I hear in many threads about Hamill and Kurtz ripping on Lucas in the press, is this recent about the dvd's or just about the special edition?
It is about the special edition as a whole, but I think that, with these DVDs, the whole situation has been blown wide open and Lucas is really shooting himself in the foot. Of course, he is so powerful that it doesn't matter, but hopefully, other billionares could pressure him. At this point, I don't know whether to hope or not. The Digital Bits have posted, with help from Robert A. Harris, a series or reasons why LFLs repreated statements that this is the best they can do are, pardon my language, in a word, bullshit. Hammill simply said that the SEs lacked the charm of the originals, but Kurtz really ripped Lucas a new one. Not that I blame him, as he was heavily involved with films that were changed. Both interviews are linked to on this site. I want to think that this release is a sign of things to come and that Lucas is finally softening, what with the simple fact that it is being released and that Lucas really seemed to be aiming to please with the PG-13 ROTS. But with him, I don't know what to think anymore. He doesn't care what anyone thinks, and I don't know if anyone can change his mind. But I hope that I am wrong.
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Originally posted by: JediRandy
OMG!!!! Luca$ is teh Sux!!
That's not what people said. But he has told a bald-faced lie and continues to mistreat his fans. This is just proof that what they have been advertising is a lie. No one said anything else. This release will not be anamorphic. Fact. It will be made from 15 year old masters, whcih LFL admits are of poor quality. Fact. People who saw the ComiCon presentation said that it looked bad. Fact. Lucasfilm has the ability to release a proper version. Fact. They have not. Fact. Therefore, criticism.
I never said that it was, but thanks for reminding me for the 65th time.
After all, it's interesting to see the immensely-intellectual depths his viewpoint brings to all of this.
OMG!!!! Luca$ is teh Sux!!
That's not what people said. But he has told a bald-faced lie and continues to mistreat his fans. This is just proof that what they have been advertising is a lie. No one said anything else. This release will not be anamorphic. Fact. It will be made from 15 year old masters, whcih LFL admits are of poor quality. Fact. People who saw the ComiCon presentation said that it looked bad. Fact. Lucasfilm has the ability to release a proper version. Fact. They have not. Fact. Therefore, criticism.
Its not your movie, never was, never will be.
I never said that it was, but thanks for reminding me for the 65th time.
After all, it's interesting to see the immensely-intellectual depths his viewpoint brings to all of this.
I assume that you are kidding?
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- OOT DVDs - interlaced or progressive?
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Originally posted by: Marvolo
Every day I find a new reason to hate George Lucas.
If I've ever had good reason to say "WTF?!", it's now.
Every day I find a new reason to hate George Lucas.
There's no reason to hate him. Just what he has done.
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How can a 13 year old transfer with de-interlacing artifacts and losuey digital noise-reduction muck on the screen possibly be considered an awsome transfer
It can't. But we are meant to think it can.
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Who can trust anything Lucas/Lucasfilm says anymore?
Probably no one, but what they have been saying of late is also self-contradictory and doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense.
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- I got a response from Leonard Maltin.....
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Originally posted by: JediRandy
"I'm sure the folks at LucasFilm are aware of the outcry from diehard fans, but if you know anything about George Lucas, then you know that he tends to do exactly as he pleases.
a.k.a.
Oh well.
No, a.k.a., there's nothing I can do.
I never said it was. Thanks for reminding me for the 63rd time though.
I really didn't mean to depress you in what I said on the other thread.
"I'm sure the folks at LucasFilm are aware of the outcry from diehard fans, but if you know anything about George Lucas, then you know that he tends to do exactly as he pleases.
a.k.a.
Oh well.
No, a.k.a., there's nothing I can do.
Its not your movie, never was, never will be.
I never said it was. Thanks for reminding me for the 63rd time though.
I really didn't mean to depress you in what I said on the other thread.
I'm an optimist who sees pie in the sky. You just told the truth, and it was hard to hear. It's not your fault. But the battle is not over yet.
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- Another Form Of Protest?
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Like I mentioned before, I think the press is going to do a lot of our work for us and give us a head start, because any magazine reviewer or movie reviewer worth his/her salt is going to lambaste Lucasfilm for releasing these classic films in such an outdated fashion.
True, but they probably won't care, as they don't seem to care about anything else.
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- I got a response from Leonard Maltin.....
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Originally posted by: Ozkeeper
Good of you to write to him.
Nice of him to respond.
..and still some people try to claim that George Lucas' attitude isn't known beyond these pages. Yeah. Right.
Good of you to write to him.
Nice of him to respond.
..and still some people try to claim that George Lucas' attitude isn't known beyond these pages. Yeah. Right.
You yourself said that people just don't care and that we are a minority. Remember, in you depressingly honest "dead horse" post in the "first viewing of the OOT DVDs"
I think that if he were to gather up some help from other critics and Hollywoodites then he could have some clout, but what do I know?
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Originally posted by: Guy Caballero
You mean you expect The Empire Strikes Back to get the same level of attention as Halloween 4? You fans are never satisfied.
You mean you expect The Empire Strikes Back to get the same level of attention as Halloween 4? You fans are never satisfied.
Or Hillside Cannibals?
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- I know it's odd, but...werewolf movie question
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- SUPERMAN RETURNS REVIEW
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Originally posted by: Han Solo VS Indiana Jones
According to most of the people I know, the rubber nipples are the reason that the movie sucked.
SR is currently up to $178 million dollars.
From IMDB 7/26/2006 -
Director Bryan Singer has acknowledged that the less-than-stellar performance of Superman Returns has made prospects for another Man of Steel sequel a bit "iffy." The Associated Press quotes him as saying, "We haven't concluded a deal," but if a sequel gets a green light from Warner Bros, "the intention is to do it for [release in] 2009." Separately, Singer told Britain's Empire magazine, "Now that the character is established, I'd like to take the opportunity to bring in a more threatening element, a more terrible, foreboding element." Superman Returns, starring Kevin Spacey, Brandon Routh, and Kate Bosworth, has taken in $178 million at the domestic box office, below such other summer hits as The Da Vinci Code, X-Men: The Last Stand, Cars, and Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest.
Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
If the movie hadn't sucked, I think we might have forgiven the rubber nipples eventually.
If the movie hadn't sucked, I think we might have forgiven the rubber nipples eventually.
According to most of the people I know, the rubber nipples are the reason that the movie sucked.
SR is currently up to $178 million dollars.
From IMDB 7/26/2006 -
Director Bryan Singer has acknowledged that the less-than-stellar performance of Superman Returns has made prospects for another Man of Steel sequel a bit "iffy." The Associated Press quotes him as saying, "We haven't concluded a deal," but if a sequel gets a green light from Warner Bros, "the intention is to do it for [release in] 2009." Separately, Singer told Britain's Empire magazine, "Now that the character is established, I'd like to take the opportunity to bring in a more threatening element, a more terrible, foreboding element." Superman Returns, starring Kevin Spacey, Brandon Routh, and Kate Bosworth, has taken in $178 million at the domestic box office, below such other summer hits as The Da Vinci Code, X-Men: The Last Stand, Cars, and Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest.
Domestically or worldwide? What about merchandising? It'd be a shame if Singer's Superman isn't given a chance to grow. As he proved with X2, when he's given something to build upon Singer can really run with it. Ah well. Such is life, I suppose.
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- Another Form Of Protest?
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Originally posted by: Mielr
WE can't do anything more right now. However, I'm confident that there WILL be a significant backlash in the entertainment press about these non-anamorphic DVDs. As a result, GL will have to address the issue at some point in the future. I think he's underestimating the negative response that these DVDs will get.
It will be very interesting to watch all of this unfold. 48 days to go.
Originally posted by: Mike O
Yes, but at this point, what can we do? I'll keep fighting on principle, of course, but at the moment, it seems that we have lost the battle. Let's hope we can win the war. I just don't have an inspirational speech ready. Its thousand to one odds.
Originally posted by: Tiptup
Anything that screws George Lucas even in a tiny way is worth considering.
Anything that screws George Lucas even in a tiny way is worth considering.
Yes, but at this point, what can we do? I'll keep fighting on principle, of course, but at the moment, it seems that we have lost the battle. Let's hope we can win the war. I just don't have an inspirational speech ready. Its thousand to one odds.
WE can't do anything more right now. However, I'm confident that there WILL be a significant backlash in the entertainment press about these non-anamorphic DVDs. As a result, GL will have to address the issue at some point in the future. I think he's underestimating the negative response that these DVDs will get.
It will be very interesting to watch all of this unfold. 48 days to go.
That long, huh. I just keep worring that the backlash will have the adverse effect of ticking off Lucas and making the situation even worse. I just hope that the light at the end of the tunnel is not the train. I guess that I should be patient and remember that good things come to those who wait. Who knows. Maybe some good will come of this. I certainly hope so. I should cheer up. Maybe, just maybe, all of this will turn out for the best. Thanks Mielr. Its good that have you on this board. I like you very much. Its great to have been welcomed by you. Maybe I should go watch The Shawshank Redemption.