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#545582
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StarWarsLegacy.com - The Official Thread
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I honestly doubt this 'sour grapes bickering' stems from disinterest in Mike's Legacy project. It stems from George Lucas' irresponsible attempt at rewriting film-history.

I have no reason to be angry at Mike nor the people who are critical of him. The only person I'm angry with, when seeing what Mike is capable to achieve and what might never be seen by anyone but a lucky few... is George Lucas.

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#545504
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StarWarsLegacy.com - The Official Thread
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In a way he pushed that giant ignore button by leaving here and restricting access to his forum. The way he did make his exit, wasn't glorious at all (the given reason for leaving being an all too obvious cop out). I give you that.

But so were the attempts to push him into a topic direction he didn't want to take.

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#545489
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StarWarsLegacy.com - The Official Thread
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Yeh. The profanity that went along with the criticism on Adywan's work was more than uncalled for. Unfortunate that things had to go sour this way.

Especially since he did not deem it necessary to elaborate where that kind of hatred of fan-made 'special editions' (or specifically Adywan's edits?) comes from. Why be that angry about a fan-edit? Just because they weren't done on the professional/aesthetic level he operates on? Awkward.

On the other hand I can't blame him for abandoning this thread. He clearly stated that there are certain roads he won't follow - no matter what. Yet, some of us kept trying to push him there. In my book that's just a precaution to avoid unnecessary red tape.

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#545016
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Preserving "German" Original Trilogy
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As far as I remember, you could see the german voice talent credits in the movie theatre back then (if you stayed long enough to see it and the projectionist didn't make you leave by closing the curtain early).

However these were put there as a reel addition, so those were not included in the home video releases.

EDIT: Just got an idea. What could be done instead of expanding the official credit roll, is some sort of content for the extra disc. A photo of the voice actor with a short bio and filmography of films they voice acted in (or something along those lines).

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#544969
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Preserving "German" Original Trilogy
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Laserschwert said:

My recreation of the German theatrical SW crawl:

http://www.mediafire.com/?1aa2ta854vzn8pd

Looks very good so far. Albeit, some of the lettering in the crawl (starting at 01:00 occasionally drags some sort of color-smear behind them (probably due to encoding problems?).

On a different note: Will you guys also add the german voice actors to the end credit rolls of the movies?
(It always kind of bothers me, that they were left out).

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#544903
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StarWarsLegacy.com - The Official Thread
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Stinky-Dinkins said:

I just read the last few pages of this thread.

 

So, this will never be released to the general public?

 

Honestly, who gives a fuck then?

 

If this won't be released I can't imagine why anyone (but the creator of this project) would care in the slightest.

Well, I can only speak for myself. But as I see it, this seems to be the only way to have the opportunity to get such a preservation done at all.

Imagine this would not be done by someone right now. Then it could be lost for certain. And there would be no future possibility of a proper release.

So, from a 'cultural heritage' point of view - this makes all the difference in the world! Especially since we've learned that the library of congress not only hasn't the capability to do a restoration of this magnitude - it also doesn't have the prints to begin with.

Of course, I am saddened that I probably will never get a chance to see more than a few stills and some insight into the 'making of' part. I can at least be sure that the original StarWars is preserved and locked down in a safe place, prepared to emerge should the road for a release ever be opened up (by whatever circumstances).

Until then, Mike's offer to have a private screening from time to time represents a unique opportunity for a lucky few to see StarWars in all it's glory.

That's more than anyone could have hoped for just a few years ago. And that's why I give a fuck - even if I as a person may 'not get anything out of it'.

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#544684
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Star Wars Blu Ray Impressions
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Speaking of weird: Any german BD set owners here, who can confirm that Luke's missing lines from the german dub of SW (ANH) were put back in?

Quote from Schnittberichte.com:

1:35:06
Auditive Änderung: Ein Gespräch zwischen Han Solo und Luke Skywalker wurde nur in der dt. Fassung korrigiert. Hier gingen zwei Sätze bei der Tonabmischung (irgendwann einmal) verloren. Diese wurden restauriert (fett gedruckt).

Luke: “Komm doch! Warum siehst du dich nicht hier um? Du weißt, was passieren wird und worum es denen geht. Die brauchen gute Piloten wie dich, und da haust du einfach ab.”

Han: “Was hat man von einer Belohnung, wenn man tot ist? Außerdem hat der Angriff auf diese Kampfstation nichts mit Mut zu tun. Vielmehr mit Selbstmord.”

Luke: “Verstehe. Dann pass gut auf dich auf, Han. Darin bist du ja ein Meister, nicht wahr?”

kein Zeitunterschied

Just in case of anyone wondering about this... three lines are missing from the german anh-dub (very much like the "Close the blast doors!"-thing in the original):

Leia: "They're tracking us!"
Luke: "You know what's about to happen, what they're up against?"
Luke: "Well, take care of yourself Han."

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#544204
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General Star Wars Random Thoughts Thread
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DuracellEnergizer said:

 

red5-626 said:


First off I need to say I am not a PT hater. The PT is inferior to the OT but it  could have been worse than it is. Yes that’s possible I had nightmares about TPM being worse. I had nightmares from 1999 to 2002 that the backstreet boys where going to sing I want  it that way in huttese. And that Anakin would be played by the  Titanic’s  Leonardo DiCaprio. So it  could have been worse.


Leo DiCaprio would have been worse than Hayden Christensen!? Ach du lieber!!

 

I as well used to be afraid of DiCaprio spieling Anakin back then. Today I just wish my fears would have become true... -_-

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#543918
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Star Wars coming to Blu Ray (UPDATE: August 30 2011, No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!)
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kenkraly2007 said:

Enough of the GL bashing. Seriously is that all some of you do? If it was not for GL their would not be anything star wars. After all he is the one created the whole saga. We need to at least respect the fact he did made these films and not bash him everytime he makes a change to the films. But everyone has a right to their opinion about the changes to the films some like them some don't.

In all due respect: Being fond of StarWars doesn't automagically mean I have to be fond of it's creator(s) as well.

And when you talk about the necessity of appreciation - you make it sound like a one-way street... what about Lucas appreciating compassion for the theatrical cuts? At last that's the very thing that put him where he is today.

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#543813
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Star Wars coming to Blu Ray (UPDATE: August 30 2011, No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!)
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kenkraly2007 said:

fair enough Master Sifo-Dyas but LFL is not lazy they corrected some issues on the blu-rays not all mind you but some.

Yes, they did not fix everything they were able to fix. And the things they did fix are merely patched up.

As I said: They don't work to the best of their ability. That makes them, lazy.

Excerpt from Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary:
lazy, adjective

1 (disapproving) unwilling to work or be active; doing as little as possible

2
not involving much energy or activity; slow and relaxed

3
(disapproving) showing a lack of effort or care

4 (literary) moving slowly

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#543797
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Star Wars coming to Blu Ray (UPDATE: August 30 2011, No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!)
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kenkraly2007 said:

If you guys think I am a troll fine that's your opinion. But getting mad and complaining about the original cuts of the OT not being on the blu-ray is not going to get them on blu-ray any faster. They will be out on blu-ray someday it just won't be right now. 

Sure. But what's the point rubbing our noses in it? I won't give up on my dreams.

Sure, you're right: The BD might be the best home release of the StarWars hexalogy - but that's the problem! They should look and sound best - not just 'ok'.

Lucasfilm and it's corresponding companies once set the standard for presentation quality (and forcing those upon others) and now everything they do feels sloppy and half-assed - even the material George Lucas claims to care about.

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#543786
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Star Wars coming to Blu Ray (UPDATE: August 30 2011, No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!)
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TV's Frink said:

fishmanlee said:

He actually didnt say that he agrees with it, just that he goes along with it.

If he goes along with it, he has compromised his beliefs.  Plus, he said "the world has changed."  What the frink is that supposed to mean?

°_o I'm not sure I want to know...

EDIT: @TV's Frink below: Uhhh, that... added referenced quote (a slight quotation malfunction, situation normal).

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#542943
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Star Wars coming to Blu Ray (UPDATE: August 30 2011, No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!)
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Uhh... turns out I should've been a lil less lazy and actually read what I dig up. The articles actually give a number of sold SKUs plus the overall amount of money they brought in.

Quote from above sources:

"... the Complete Saga on Blu-ray release broke global sales records with
1 million units sold and $84 million filling cash registers.

It quickly becomes the #1 pre-order and #1 catalog title since the launch of the high-definition format."

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#542933
Topic
Star Wars coming to Blu Ray (UPDATE: August 30 2011, No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!)
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Mielr said:

So, I wonder how many of these BD sets have sold now? I wonder if the sales have dropped significantly since the first week of release.

When I was going through the flyers in this Sunday's newspaper, I didn't see one single ad for the set- not in Target, Wal-Mart, Best Buy, etc. You'd think they'd still be pushing it since it's only been out a couple of weeks.

Too lazy to do the math myself - not too lazy to dig up a few sources for the amount of dough LFL raked in so far:

deadline.com: ‘Star Wars: The Complete Saga’ On Blu-Ray Breaks Worldwide Sales Records

movies.com: 'Star Wars' Blu-ray Sales Breaks Records Globally Despite Fan Outcry

movies.yahoo.com: Your Boycott of the ‘Star Wars’ Blu-Rays Worked! Oh, Wait, No, It Didn’t at All

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#542918
Topic
Star Wars coming to Blu Ray (UPDATE: August 30 2011, No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!)
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I agree that the situation certainly does suffer from continous aggravation through the piles of insults and disdain for the preferences of the other.

To me the central argument is - as you said - not about preference, it is about completeness. At the end, every fan (even if some may not admit it openly) would love to have a boxed set of the entire saga with all the bells and whistles and every version of the films that has been in existence (Blade Runner comes to mind).

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#542916
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Star Wars coming to Blu Ray (UPDATE: August 30 2011, No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!)
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Amazingly enough, there was a thread on the forums of sw.com back in 2004, posted by fans who also wanted the theatrical versions on dvd. Sure, you had a lot of bashing and naysaying in there - and it got very rough at times.

Alas, the thread managed not to get locked back then. And it got more civil over time... when the trolls got tired and retreated under their bridges, there really was some sort of "live and let live" agreement among both sides.

I remember being really fond of that moment, seeing people finally realising we all share the love for the same thing - even if it's for different reasons - we still do. And quite a few of the hardcore Special Edition fans admitted that they would welcome the possibility to have the theatrical cuts on the same disc with the special editions. To see how it all evolved and for nostalgia.

So it is possible to have that kind of unity among the different kinds of SW-fans - once in a millenia - I guess.

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#542901
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OFFICIAL: Library of Congress had original prints replaced with 1997 SE
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TV's Frink said:

This whole "if we didn't have SW we'd have something else just as good" idea is like saying "I wish I never met my ex-wife even though she gave me two great kids I love dearly, because I could have just met another woman that would have given me two different kids that would have been just as great."

In other words, it's a really stupid idea.

Agreed. But! This whole discussion makes me want to watch Back to the Future (and that certainly isn't a bad thing). In fact it also makes me feel like picking up that Delorean and bring the original prints... well... back to the future! :D

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#542893
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OFFICIAL: Library of Congress had original prints replaced with 1997 SE
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generalfrevious said: [...] The problem is that GL has a perfectionist streak that goes against the preservation of these films. [...]

I can agree that whatever he suffers from is going against the preservation of the theatrical versions. Yet when you ask me what it is - it is most definitely not perfectionism.

Would George Lucas be a perfectionist, he would not only have put in every change he deemed necessary back in '97 (and improving them along with progress of technology with each new release), but he also wouldn't leave mistakes like broken colour timing, missing or wrongly coloured lightsaber blades, etc. in his special editions.

You may argue that he used to be a perfectionist, when he still was struggling to establish a brand (or multiple ones if you put into account the companies he's founded).

I really don't know what he's suffering from these days, a lazy streak of "delusions of grandeur (tm)", perhaps?

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