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- #1082731
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- TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1082731/action/topic#1082731
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Guys, I mostly love it. Not a fan of the “slow motion” effect but the rest is very solid. Almost perfect !
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Guys, I mostly love it. Not a fan of the “slow motion” effect but the rest is very solid. Almost perfect !
Jeebus said:
And for changing the script, what about The Blackened Mantle?It’s called writing new subtitles that don’t translate what’s being said…
Oh okay. So it doesn’t count because… reasons, I suppose.
Oh you went back to your post a few days later to add a real comment besides the - not quite properly used - pic ?
Ok then, so just tell me : japanese is a real language, isn’t it ? Not something created for an edit, right ? So if you edit a movie (or 3 movies) with untouched dialogues in japanese and just add subtitles that don’t translate them but tell another story, is it fanediting or something else ? (such as “fanwriting”, what Durathislol does I guess). Can a japanese watch The Blackened Mantle and say “oh, the script is changed, this is cool” or is he going to think “what the fuck is going on here ? Why are 3 movies mixed up with no sense at all ?”. So “it doesn’t count because… reason” I just gave you. You’re very much welcome 😄
Anyway, you were however right about the fact that script can be - slightly - changed through editing. But sometimes it requires a little bit more (Hal9000 Episode 7 restructure requires new sfx shots and even a new dialogue - “they have found us” - to work, so it goes beyond editing).
By the way there is still something quite weird about the “take the high ground” joke and meme, because it means “to be better” (I saw it in French back in 2005, “j’ai le dessus Anakin”, which means exactly that) and seems to have been taken litterally as “I stand on a higher ground as you do so I win”. As if to mock the PT dialogues there was a need to even make fun of something that is not that ridiculous.
Not related to that but to the topic there is something very cool about the PT, and it’s called Clone Wars (and some parts of The Clone Wars as well).
If you like the prequels, that’s cool. It can be a little awkward on a site devoted to the original films
Why ? Without the OT there can be no PT (and most PT fans I know are just SW fans, they love every single movie… but they still think the OT to be superior 😃).
(and the most interesting subforum of this site is the one devoted to fanedits, especially PT fanedits)
You did it completely and hilariously wrong there. You should just stick to your pointless LOL THIS posts.
I think you didn’t get the point but i’m not surprised (too subtle for you). You should just stick to your usual moronic posts.
How can you exactly define ‘adds value to the discussion’?
If only they could shot material to replace the CGI version in TPM and ANH-SE#2&3…
I know if I was going to make a sequel or prequel, I would re-watch my old movies to make certain I am not messing things up.
Someone had to remind Lucas that Obi-Wan needed to pick up Anakin’s lightsaber before he left Mustafar.
Seriously ?!?
Behavior like this is what we call in the business ‘trolling.’
the only script changing idea was to edit a scene the way it was written which proved the theatrical cut was vastly superior.
LOL
I couldn’t agree more…
Jeebus said:
And for changing the script, what about The Blackened Mantle?It’s called writing new subtitles that don’t translate what’s being said…
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Don’t know, I’ve only seen one fanedit from Adywan and there was no new scene (except a few more shots during the DS assault)
Does that not count as shooting new scenes, or at least proof that new scenes can be shot?
Yeah but like I said it’s no longer editing 😃 it becomes filmmaking.
the only script changing idea was to edit a scene the way it was written which proved the theatrical cut was vastly superior.
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THIS !
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AND THIS AGAIN !
Jeebus said:
And for changing the script, what about The Blackened Mantle?
It’s called writing new subtitles that don’t translate what’s being said…
Don’t know, I’ve only seen one fanedit from Adywan and there was no new scene (except a few more shots during the DS assault) and the only script changing idea was to edit a scene the way it was written which proved the theatrical cut was vastly superior. But I’m talking about “editing”; if someone shoots new scene it’s not just editing anymore.
Since Smudger9 is taking a break away from fanediting after the release of Episode IV, I can answer a few questions:
chyron8472 said:
First, what is the difference between the 1080p m4vs versions and the bluray versions available on info?
The brd version has bonus material (trailer and deleted scenes) and a better compression rate (i.e. video and audio qualities are higher).
Why is there no bluray for Episode 4?
There is but he removed the link because of an audio exporting issue.
Second, are you making any more of these?
He explained it was a 9 movies project.
Would you consider making an Ahsoka season 5 or a Fives season 6 movie?
He already said his Episode VIII is going to deal with the end of the Ahsoka story arc (and, I wish, with the Tarkin arc at the Citadelle - the Separatist prison which will later be used by the Empire as the Death Star facility in Rogue One if I’m not mistaken) and Episode IX is planned to be dealing with Order 66 and Voices. I guess that Episode V is going to be about Darth Maul, Episode VI about the Mandalore events and the Dark Sun, ending with Darth Sidious engaging against Maul and his bro. Don’t know much about Episode VII.
I really hope Smudger9 will find the time to finish his ambitious project (as well as making a 2.0 version to correct a few issues in the first 4 episodes).
I want to see kids light up as the Millennium Falcon goes into hyperspace. That means characters are going to need recasting.
They can watch the original movies…
I’m pretty sure the movie can be a nice little comedy (à la Jump Street) with the main issue - for me - being the younger versions of main OT characters. Could have been fun to deal with a bunch of new faces with caméos of the “Empire underworld” such as Jabba, Fett, Bossk and cie (Hondo ?). Han’s introduction in ANH and Lando’s in ESB are so perfect I’m afraid this movie might ruin it.
A fanditor cannot shoot new scenes and change the script, so no faneditor can change the fondamental issues and flaws of the PT, TFA and even ROTJ.
I’m happy that they seem to be going for practical racing rather than just green-screen stuff.
Not very surprising since Lucasfilm is using the same production approach that was used for I to VII and Rogue One.
Episode IV, A Galaxy Divided, full nitpicking mode 😄
Opening Crawl: very good crawl, not much is feasible to improve it (except maybe the title which is not very well chosen I think).
Audio glitches (2):
Useless/repetitive/cheesy dialogues : “Senate Spy” is the weak part of your cut. The idea of intercutting it with “Duchesse of Mandalore” is great and it leads to the very fun second battle of Geonosis, but I think it can be trimmed a little bit more. So here are a few suggestions of things that could be removed without damaging the plot.
Plot issues:
there might be some kind of a plot issue about Padmé being at the Mandalore Senate session whereas she was just getting the medecine to cure her poisoning a few minutes ago.
Here is what I suggest: cut the mention of Padmé at 0:58:46 : “which is why you must take the disc [to Padmé]” (maybe replace “to Padmé” with “to the Senate” if possible ?). Then, when the Senate session occurs, directly cut to the complete recording with no mention of Padmé showing this proof
(one shot of Padmé should also be replaced by one with only Obi-Wan), so cut from 01:00:43 to 01:01:01. That way it’s implied that Obi-Wan is the one showing the complete recording.
Then, at Palpatine office, cut directly to Satine entering the room (Padmé’s presence is not an issue since she’s now back from her mission with Anakin, she could be here to give
the intel she got from Clovis, besides the background shows the meeting is occuring the morning after): so cut from 01:02:10 (“thankfully”) to 01:02:24 (“I require no thanks”).
When Padmé talks to Satine, she basically tells again what Palpatine just told the audience a few seconds ago. That’s way you also get rid of repetitive information. Better for the pace of your edit.
About the two Dooku scenes with the Death Watch leader: you should change a few lines on both scenes to make it work better. Here is my suggestion:
Scene 1:
“Unacceptable! I will order my men to attack !”
“And if you do, you’ll hold the planet for perhaps a day. I have other ways to accomplish our goals. I will send you reinforcement.”
(not sure if “I will send you reinforcement.” Is necessary since we know a few minutes later from the geonosian general that Dooku is expecting droids to invade Mandalore)
Scene 2:
“You promised us we would reclaim Mandalore from these weak-willed cowards !”
Without the backing of my forces or your people, your revolution will be over before it begins. A neophyte such as you wouldn’t know these things, but I do.”
(and cut back to the geonosian arc before the reused close up of the Death Watch Leader)
Things to reinsert:
By the way you’re not going to revisit (or remove) Ren’s wrath ? I consider this scene very silly and DigMod had an interesting - albeit not perfect - on it.
I can just see the 50th passing by with the same results - no restoration of the OOT, and another generation of kids discovering the SE’s.
This is how Star Wars dies… with thunderous applause
(first the SE… then the PT… finally the ST and Disney flicks… LEAVE STAR WARS ALONE !!!)
If they can blow off George’s sequel ideas
Since no one has read GL’s synopsis, we don’t know that. But I know for sure that Episode VII and Rogue One have MASSIVELY used and recycled his ideas from the OT and the PT 😄