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#1091852
Topic
Episode VIII Discussion *SPOILER THREAD*
Time

TV’s Frink said:

LuckyGungan2001 said:

Lord Tobias said:

The biggest plot twist in last jedi

The force ghosts are not real…but are all a deception from snoke.

All this time, he had been using his great powers to manipulate yoda and obi wan to think that they would come back after death…falsely believing that they can contact luke.

They were deceived and they were only able to observe the events but not interfere(meaning they couldn’t warn luke about anything).

Snoke was there this whole time from the death star to Hoth to dagobah to even the emotional ghost scene at the end of return of the jedi. He was using his powers to deceive luke and the audience into thinking he was talking and looking at his dead loved ones.

That is why obi wanted luke to kill vader, to corrupt luke to turn into snoke’s high priest…a position he later gave to kylo ren. What is snoke that he is powerful enough to do this? Snoke is a WHILL…whills are mentioned several times in rogue one.

Whills are the star wars equivalent to angel (or even a minor god) immortal beings connected to the force and are essentially godlike. He was the best whill and the other Whills grew very jealous of him. He all his life yearned to leave his realm to explore and influence the larger galaxy.

One day the snoke was prideful and belittled his friends for their jealousy which would without a doubt have caused the other Whills to be angry and pissed. one day he was betrayed and thrown out of his home by jealous whills who wanted him gone. And snoke was emotionally devastated, but instead of forgiving his spiritual brothers he became enraged and went to the jedi.

Where he created the sith, leading to the rise of the sith empire. The immense destruction the sith wars cost gave snoke more and more power(using the dark side to regain his power). He was soon strong enough to return to his realm and singlehandily killed all the whills for betraying him. He was cast out again by the bendu(a elder entity who is a associate of the whills if not one of them).

Now what does this all have to do with luke? Because snoke was casted down at the time that the sith empire fell…leading to the rule of 2.

Slowly he wanted to turn the galaxy into a theocracy…the more people who worship his ideals the more powerful he became.

Of course we see star wars play out. As the sith were manipulating the republic, snoke was manipulating qui-gon, yoda and finally obi wan into his false doctrine of immortality after death. And that voice that we hear In new hope is not obi wan…but snoke’s. Who was guiding luke so that he can manipulate events to his liking. Luke was meant to be his crowning jewl. His high priest for a dark side religion that will make him powerful enough to “improve” the galaxy. He doesn’t want to rule the galaxy but turn it into a paradise. He wants to make sure no one suffers. But Snoke is like a god…he needs worship to get stronger. Kylo ren is not an apprentice but a high priest of a new religion meant to worship and empower him. This whole time, luke was deceived.

Force ghosts were never real and snoke is basically space satan…deceiving us all

That is why luke is angry and is saying that the jedi are bullshit…because he has no one to confide in. The jedi were just pawns to a game that snoke played.

Thoughts?

Come on man, if you’re gonna break the forum rule, at least use the gif.

Oh crap there is a rule against picture only posts. I apologise.

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#1091795
Topic
Episode VIII Discussion *SPOILER THREAD*
Time

Lord Tobias said:

The biggest plot twist in last jedi

The force ghosts are not real…but are all a deception from snoke.

All this time, he had been using his great powers to manipulate yoda and obi wan to think that they would come back after death…falsely believing that they can contact luke.

They were deceived and they were only able to observe the events but not interfere(meaning they couldn’t warn luke about anything).

Snoke was there this whole time from the death star to Hoth to dagobah to even the emotional ghost scene at the end of return of the jedi. He was using his powers to deceive luke and the audience into thinking he was talking and looking at his dead loved ones.

That is why obi wanted luke to kill vader, to corrupt luke to turn into snoke’s high priest…a position he later gave to kylo ren. What is snoke that he is powerful enough to do this? Snoke is a WHILL…whills are mentioned several times in rogue one.

Whills are the star wars equivalent to angel (or even a minor god) immortal beings connected to the force and are essentially godlike. He was the best whill and the other Whills grew very jealous of him. He all his life yearned to leave his realm to explore and influence the larger galaxy.

One day the snoke was prideful and belittled his friends for their jealousy which would without a doubt have caused the other Whills to be angry and pissed. one day he was betrayed and thrown out of his home by jealous whills who wanted him gone. And snoke was emotionally devastated, but instead of forgiving his spiritual brothers he became enraged and went to the jedi.

Where he created the sith, leading to the rise of the sith empire. The immense destruction the sith wars cost gave snoke more and more power(using the dark side to regain his power). He was soon strong enough to return to his realm and singlehandily killed all the whills for betraying him. He was cast out again by the bendu(a elder entity who is a associate of the whills if not one of them).

Now what does this all have to do with luke? Because snoke was casted down at the time that the sith empire fell…leading to the rule of 2.

Slowly he wanted to turn the galaxy into a theocracy…the more people who worship his ideals the more powerful he became.

Of course we see star wars play out. As the sith were manipulating the republic, snoke was manipulating qui-gon, yoda and finally obi wan into his false doctrine of immortality after death. And that voice that we hear In new hope is not obi wan…but snoke’s. Who was guiding luke so that he can manipulate events to his liking. Luke was meant to be his crowning jewl. His high priest for a dark side religion that will make him powerful enough to “improve” the galaxy. He doesn’t want to rule the galaxy but turn it into a paradise. He wants to make sure no one suffers. But Snoke is like a god…he needs worship to get stronger. Kylo ren is not an apprentice but a high priest of a new religion meant to worship and empower him. This whole time, luke was deceived.

Force ghosts were never real and snoke is basically space satan…deceiving us all

That is why luke is angry and is saying that the jedi are bullshit…because he has no one to confide in. The jedi were just pawns to a game that snoke played.

Thoughts?

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#1091551
Topic
The Random EU Thoughts Thread
Time

I’ve almost finished book five in The New Jedi Order and I feel that with each passing book the feel of the series grows less and less Star Warsy - which is exactly what I want, for the novels to branch out from the films and explore new ideas and locations. Overall I’m really liking this series, and I plan on reading it all and its follow ups (Dark Nest, Legacy of the Force, etc)

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#1091549
Topic
Your latest star wars buys?
Time

ZkinandBonez said:

I’ve just returned from a trip to the US and this is all of the SW stuff I bought during my stay there.

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It’s not that I can’t find SW stuff in Scandinavia, but since it’s all new and imported it costs a lot more than random goodwill store finds in the US. Plus finding these kinds of things in goodwill stores in Norway is rare to the point of never happening. Also the old Marvel SW comics are simply straight up impossible to find (unless you count the translated versions, which I do own most of), so those are the ones I’m the most happy about getting.

God damn, all that came from a few goodwill stores? I wish we had better ones near me.

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#1089706
Topic
The Marvel Cinematic Universe
Time

I finally finished Daredevil season one after watching the first few episodes last year and basically shelving it until now. It was pretty great, but I’m enjoying Jessica Jones even more so far, and am zipping through that one fast.

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#1089195
Topic
Last movie seen
Time

Uncle Ben’s death scene is Kubrick level compared to the same scene in The Amazing Spider-Man.

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#1088482
Topic
Last movie seen
Time

I watched all the Spider-Man movies in prep for Homecoming.

Spider-Man (2002) - Really love this one, my personal favourite of the lot - 8/10

Spider-Man 2 (2004) - Builds really well on what made the first film great, the “best” one of the lot - 8/10

Spider-Man 3 (2007) - A misstep for sure but I adore the soundtrack, acting and campyness that surrounds this entire film - 6/10

Captain America: Civil War (2016) - I watched this because it contains Spider-Man and also because I remember it as a damn good film (it still is by the way) - 7/10

Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017) - It isn’t as well put together as the first two Raimi films, nor is it as quotable of zany as the third, but I still really enjoyed it - 7/10

I didn’t watch either of the “Amazing” movies because they are abhorrent.

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#1088429
Topic
Help!
Time

Okay guys, I feel as if I’ve come full circle since I created this thread, because I just finished playing through KOTOR (haven’t started the second one yet), and you know, I think my friend was right that it stacks up against the OT. I actually really loved it.

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#1088261
Topic
Star Wars Destiny (New Shorts by Disney)
Time

Man, I’m actually really enjoying this. It reminds me of some of the less consequential stories from Star Wars Tales, which were set during the movies and had a more lightweight tone than most other stories.

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#1087094
Topic
General Star Wars Random Thoughts Thread
Time

joefavs said:

Forgot to post this when it actually happened, but I went to a comic con last weekend in Worcester, MA and scored a bunch of Star Wars schwag. The 501st had a charity raffle where I ended up winning a gift basket full of figures and legos and stuff. Also got a Millennium Falcon model kit, the 40th anniversary black series Luke action figure with the 77 packaging, and the coup de grace, a Sebastian Shaw Anakin Skywalker action figure from the 90s.

Awesome man, would you be able to post a picture of the loot?

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#1083000
Topic
Video Game Thread
Time

I’ve been playing a heap of Fallout 3 recently. I know it gets a lot of hate, but if this is the worst Fallout game, I can’t wait to play the best.

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#1082940
Topic
The DC Extended Universe
Time

I haven’t seen Wonder Woman yet, but I’ve pretty much despised every single DCEU film so far. What’s even worse is that so many “edgy” kids at my school like to boast about how good Suicide Squad is.

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#1082844
Topic
Last movie seen
Time

Star Wars: Episode III – Revenge of the Sith - (2005)

Decided to watch this again, and screw it, I actually like it a lot. This time around I didn’t mind the dialogue or acting, and I adored the music, action scenes, and cinematography. I also really enjoyed watching it. I know I’ll get hounded for this, but I give it a seven out of ten.

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#1082308
Topic
Episode VIII Discussion *SPOILER THREAD*
Time

BigMcLargeHuge said:

Honestly, this movie is my last go-round with the New Continuity - having been lukewarm about TFA and completely disappointed by Rogue One and any of the new canon novels I’ve read (exception: Lost Stars). If “The Last Jedi” is anything less than amazing, I’m out. I’ll stick with the OT and the 1990s EU stuff that I enjoy.

Yeah, even though I really enjoy The Force Awakens and don’t mind Rogue One, all the current EU stuff I’ve read just hasn’t been as interesting to me as the original EU, which I consider as my personal canon (minus anything pertaining to The Clone Wars 2008 movie or TV show).

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