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#1057010
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The Good, The Bad and The Ugly International Cut/US Theatrical Cut
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FYI, here’s MisterLime’s (Kino Lorber rep) response to my question in another forum:

MisterLime, many folks have been asking this very question on several forums over the past few days. Will the KL release of the US theatrical cut be sourced from the 2014 4K master (used for the 2014 MGM BD) or a new 4K master? If the 2014 4K master will be used for the US theatrical cut will the image be altered in any way in terms of color, saturation, contrast?

Also, what is the source of the “M.O.S. Deleted Scene of Blondie in the desert finding skeletons”? Did you find this previously unseen footage in the archives or elsewhere?

MisterLime’s reply: The 4K master will be the same master, we’re looking into the yellowishness of the master and see if we can make some improvements. We’ll make further announcements later.

MGM found the M.O.S. deleted scene and offered it to us as an extra, that’s all I know.

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#1055068
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The Good The Bad & The Ugly - 35MM IB Tech Preservation!
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TheHutt said:

The newly announced 50th Anniversary of GB&U by Kino Lorber has the following new bonus feature announced:

• M.O.S. Deleted Scene of Blondie in the desert finding skeletons

Did they acquire it from you? Or just “borrowed” it off your Vimeo?

Either they “borrowed” it or maybe they were tipped off by the info provided on the blog that there is one documented print in the hands of Cineteca Nazionale that might have had the same unseen footage but no one bothered to check it before. It’s possible they had that print re-inspected and subsequently scanned if it contained the footage. However, it doesn’t explain why it’s “M.O.S.” considering the CN print should have sound. It’s also possible they came across another source for the “skeleton shot” and other footage. We’ll know the answer when the KL BD/DVD is released.

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#984658
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The Good The Bad & The Ugly - 35MM IB Tech Preservation!
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The priority is to release the International Cut, which is the version that has not seen an official home release since 1998 and definitely does not deserve to be forgotten.

Here are more comparison pics: http://imgur.com/a/eBJdO

This gives you an idea of the basic difference between MGM’s “teal” skies and what it looks like on the print. They also did some major color manipulation on the credit sequence.

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#951282
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The Good The Bad & The Ugly - 35MM IB Tech Preservation!
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We don’t think so. It’s clear from the translated excerpt breaking down the elements in the studio’s possession (see part 1 of the blog) what comprised the Italian theatrical print.

The conclusion is that this print is an anomaly until more info is made available by the Italians (if ever).

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#948085
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The Good The Bad & The Ugly - 35MM IB Tech Preservation!
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The first of several NEVER-BEFORE-SEEN snippets of footage sourced from the truly mysterious Italian IB TECH 35MM has been posted online. It’s a few extra shots of AE, Stevens and his son looking at each other as AE stands in the entranceway. IMHO it really adds to the ominous mood of this scene, i.e ‘Death arriving at your doorstep’.

A video and a wealth of information pertaining to 35MM elements in the possession of the studios has been provided at the following link:

http://theeditroomfloor.blogspot.ca/2016/06/unseen-footage-from-good-bad-and-ugly.html

Enjoy and let us know your thoughts in the comments section at the bottom of the page (and, of course, here).

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#918809
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The films of Sergio Leone- The best available versions
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STENDEC said:

Hey all. I’ve got a quick question - has anyone confirmed if the 01 distrib version of GBU/BBC that came out in Dec 2013 - this one - is the same master as the 2009/2012 Mondo release - this one? I put in an order for it on Amazon Italy yesterday. It hasn’t shipped yet so I’m wondering if I should cancel it and order the Mondo 2012 release instead. I don’t want to have it turn up looking the same as that god awful 2014 MGM release.

They’re the same master but I would get the Mondo BD since it’s not region locked, whereas the 01 is.

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#915315
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The Good The Bad & The Ugly - 35MM IB Tech Preservation!
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SkyderHouseMafia said:

Just stumbled onto this. Wow very exciting stuff! Any updates on this? It’s been a while since anyone has frequented this thread…

Thanks for your interest. This project is very much alive and the work is ongoing. Updates to follow.

alexp120 said:

odskaggs2 said:
10-Sep-2014, 8:07 PM
Just curious. If someone donates how would the finished version be distributed?

I would like to know that, also.
I feel that if a person donates to a project like this, he shouldn’t have to have the hassle of going through a torrent to get the completed project.
Perhaps if this project can be uploaded for a limited time. The link of this project can be sent to those that donated to the project and they will have limited time to download it before the file is removed.

It’s premature to commit to any dissemination strategies since options for our v1 release are continually changing over time. For now we’re focused on the task at hand, which is to compile the International Cut using IB TECH 35MM elements available to us.

If you’d like to donate to the project you’re most welcome. If so, please send me a PM.

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#788666
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The Good The Bad & The Ugly - 35MM IB Tech Preservation!
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Here's a 5 min sample clip of an IB tech of the US cut that was generously provided to us for 4K scanning:

https://www.wetransfer.com/downloads/a6a3d9a03c02f0f218da989c6d6b181520150911002537/c6955cc388a12e41a9b171c59d78741220150911002537/b622de

My partner-in-crime, who is very experienced in video editing (it's actually his day job), converted the HDR files using DaVinci Resolve. 

I asked him to keep the digital tweaking to an absolute minimum; that is, only perform a color correction (we're about 90% there) based on my notes from the IB tech theatrical presentation at the New Beverly in LA.

Here is what he did: ‘Skin tone balanced one light color correction. No stabilization, dirt removal or damage repair.’

I look forward to your feedback.

Enjoy!

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#773329
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The Look of Terminator 2
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TServo2049 said:

I find it interesting how we're seeing theatrical color timings for films...turn out to be more teal than we've gotten used to with the earlier video masters, yet clear daytime skies are never that sickly greenish teal we sometimes see on Blu-Ray regrades.

Is it that the modern grades are skewing toward the wrong shade of teal, or is it just that digital grading pushes the skies in ways that photochemical grading didn't do?

Well said! You just articulated EXACTLY the issue we're contending with on the GBU project.

We've gotten so used to the color timing of decades of home releases that strayed from the original "look". However, modern regrades somehow manage to miss the mark. Although certain aspects of the GBU 4K BD image are certainly more true to the theatrical prints, it's understandable why we'd dismiss the whole thing when when obvious things like the skies and even teeth take on that nasty teal.

I too wonder if this may be a limitation of digital grading.

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