is now on kino lorber 4k
I don’t believe so. The Kino Lorber version is close, but different elements.
Incorrect. It’s the USA Theatrical version, 162 minutes, on the Kino Lorber 4K+BD.
I was referring to the print elements, not the cut.
is now on kino lorber 4k
I don’t believe so. The Kino Lorber version is close, but different elements.
Congrats on the preservation! Been curious about its status for a few years now.
TiddySprinklesPimpBillion said:
Didn’t Indicator also release this movie in the UK on Blu-ray disc?
They did. I believe it’s the same cut as Twilight Time’s.
I found one reference where I read it from:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071569/alternateversions?ref_=tttrv_ql_5
It doesn’t specifically say British version.
I remember there was another reference elsewhere. I’ll post it if I come across it.
Thanks for comparing the Pro7 vs mdr broadcasts, Kiba.
I’ll have to check out the Koura returning to Achmed scene vs. the official BD. Do you know what time on the Pro7 this occurs at?
According to Ernest Farino, the Pro7 Margiana boat scene is an alternate take. I’m wondering if this alternate take was used in the European prints and that most home video releases are using the US one. I remember reading online that the British VHS had the alternate take as well.
I also have tried a DVDlab version (maybe Pro?) about 10 years ago. At the time, I think it was one of the better ones, but the user interface wasn’t as friendly as DVD Architect Studio from memory. I noticed that the current layout looks very similar to the Vegas flow that DVD Architect Studio is part of. I don’t think I ever completed a project using it.
I have used DVD Architect Studio and it’s OK to good overall. There’s a trial version, but I don’t know what the limitations are. It’s easy to use, but I didn’t like the text layouts. Also there were many bugs for BD authoring.
Thanks Kiba for the update and barhar for the preservation.
The 1995 laserdisc was made by the same company as the 1997 DVD, which is my source for audio. The audio was stretched to 5.1, but I compressed it down to mono using Handbrake. Sadly, it’s as close as I’m gonna get for now.
I have read that the 1997 Live DVD is basically the mono audio with some added sound effects to make it 5.1. I wonder if the effects are on separate tracks from the main audio?
It seems like Sky Cinema Nostalgie of Germany will be broadcasting Sindbads gefährliche Abenteuer (the German version of The Golden Voyage of Sinbad) Monday, September 11th at 14:20 - 16:05:
https://www.tvdigital.de/tv-sendung/sindbads-gefaehrliche-abenteuer/
Are there any German members out there that might be able to record this?
I’m hoping it’ll have the alternative angle pointed out by barhar earlier.
The first pic is from the full screen dvd, the second from a german satelite TV recording. Note the different positions of the boat.
There could be a third shot which I am on the fence about the sword being dropped in close up. but it feels like different footage and willing to call it an insert.
That does seem very possibly that it’s from the first film, but I’d have to watch the footage to better assess.
Ronster said:
Bladerunner Final Cut - Used deleted footage of a unicorn from Ridley Scotts Fantasy Film Legend with Tom Cruise and Tim Curry
Not true, see http://www.brmovie.com/FAQs/BR_FAQ_Unicorn.htm
The mkv source is from me. i recorded on TBS in the early 2000’s. It was broadcast in mono, but i didnt realize that the encode i did moved the mono sound to one channel. Nothing is absent in the sound you are hearing, its just all moved to one channel.
Correct. I watched both TV sources (Echo3’s and the BD extra). Both version feature the same cut. Quality between the two are very similar. The biggest difference is the BD extra does not have the TBS logo.
Been meaning to pick up the new 2CD release. Thanks for reminding me with the link.
^ Looks pretty good. Thanks for posting it.
Been absent, but I believe I have Superman II RIC NTSC 2-disc version as my notes don’t indicate otherwise. I might have even gotten it from the source. IIRC, there was a scratch on a disc, where I couldn’t rip it properly, but it played properly.
Thanks for letting us know about the RCA/Columbia LD. Unfortunately, I never heard back about the German version.
That looks pretty good. I really like the new logo. The added effects also enhanced things.
Would making the entire episode in 16x9 be too ambitious? I don’t know if that would add too much addition work to each scene and thus detract from completion?
The TV cut honestly looks pretty rough, but I imagine that’s as good as it will ever look
I watched the TV cut and it’s different than the mkv that I saw. The mkv has a channel logo throughout and audio on one channel. I only watched the beginning of it as I got bogged down on doing A/B comparison with the movie cut before writing down the minute differences with time codes. I’ll have to watch it again and see if it’s the same cut as provided on the BD extras.
Regarding the broadcast TV cut on the BD set, that’s probably the version I saw on a major TV channel. I’m guessing Universal probably has broadcast quality tape somewhere, but probably due to budgetary reasons it was not used and we got a VHS recording instead.
I also saw a screening of the film last year after getting the spoRV release and thought the film’s colors were more blue. On my calibrated TV, the spoRV is actually a bit too red in some spots in the snow. I am waiting for the new BD to arrive, so I can’t comment on how it compares to the film screening that I attended.
Please let us know what you think after you’ve watched the new one.
I watched this last night after the discs arrived. The snow scenes has red spots similar to spoRV. It’s obviously something to do with my display. During a white wipe, the screen was white without any red. There must be some hue coming through on the snow scenes. My TV is calibrated with the same settings as a certified technician’s review of the same model. I’m guessing each set is a little off from each other. (And I thought this problem was solved over 10 years ago.)
I don’t remember if the night scene colors were quite that blue – probably not. I only distinctly remembered the snow colors on film as I watched spoRV version the night prior to the screening and worried if they appeared on film. The saucer in the ice at the Norwegian site looked realistically like glaciers.
What else… the new BD has a frame or so at the end of the dog imitation autopsy being out of focus. I don’t remember that before. There were a few other frames like that later in the film.
I still haven’t watched any of the special features besides the trailers. I’m very pleased that they finally included the teaser in HD, which was never released on DVD besides in France. Really curious if the TV cut is better quality than what I already have. Overall, it’s a great version with all the improved details.
hairy_hen said:
Analog audio doesn’t have a sample rate
True, but something I didn’t post the last time is that IIRC the hi-fi tracks are actually digital and gets reconverted to analog for the output. This information came from an engineer who worked on an audio card.
^…^ said:
Which are the correct colors? Who knows!
From this post the producer of The Thing, Stuart Cohen, wrote:
My own anecdotal belief, based on days spent in timing sessions and checking print runs, is that the Scream transfer is much more faithful to our original intent. The idea was to drain as much color from the film as possible - not only to give it that grey-blue COLD look - but in order to provide a platform for Robs stuff to explode on screen in all its Technicolor glory…
I also saw a screening of the film last year after getting the spoRV release and thought the film’s colors were more blue. On my calibrated TV, the spoRV is actually a bit too red in some spots in the snow. I am waiting for the new BD to arrive, so I can’t comment on how it compares to the film screening that I attended.
TheHutt said:
The first non-anamorphic DVD had the uncensored commentary. The subsequent releases were edited.
My opinion is that using the new BD with the old DVD uncensored commentary and standalone soundtrack is the way to go. However, this isn’t my project.
IIRC, VHS hi-fi audio is 48 kHz. I’d choose VHS hi-fi over AC-3 192kbps as there’s a hard cut-off of higher frequencies.
It all really depends on what Universal supplies them with? All that apparently exists of the tv cut of Halloween 2 is an old broadcast video master.
I’m not even sure if they are getting the TV footage from Universal. A lot of times, it seems like they are getting VHS recordings of TV broadcasts and not broadcast quality video.
